CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #4

[jjenny]

Problem is- quote is different in another of the same paper's articles! back to the factory...

The ceremony marked the first public appearance by Dylan’s father, Mark Redwine, who was the last to see his son at about 7:30 a.m. Nov. 19. Like many who spoke, he referred to Dylan in both the present tense and the past tense, reflecting the uncertainty everyone feels about Dylan’s fate.

“That boy was my whole world,” he told the crowd. “I would do anything to find him. You don’t know how much I love that boy.”
http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129616/150-people-turn-out-for-Redwine-vigil</b>

You can listen to what he says in the actual video here:
http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129616/150-people-turn-out-for-Redwine-vigil</b>

 

[AlexisFresca]

“I want everyone to know how much I love that boy and how much I cared about him, and how much I thank the community for all the effort that they put in,” he said. “He was such a wonderful boy. He meant everything.”

(From above link)

That is the first time I have saw that entire quote and I.DO.NOT.LIKE.


ETA: It is one thing to mix your tenses in these situations, even Mom has did it but that quote by Dad can not be read any way other than "my son is dead".

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Am thinking of him clutching that pillow. Possible regret. Remorse. IF. I mean IF, iykwim.

 

[vasportsmom]

Problem is- quote is different in another of the same paper's articles! back to the factory...

The ceremony marked the first public appearance by Dylan&#8217;s father, Mark Redwine, who was the last to see his son at about 7:30 a.m. Nov. 19. Like many who spoke, he referred to Dylan in both the present tense and the past tense, reflecting the uncertainty everyone feels about Dylan&#8217;s fate.

&#8220;That boy was my whole world,&#8221; he told the crowd. &#8220;I would do anything to find him. You don&#8217;t know how much I love that boy.&#8221;
http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129616/150-people-turn-out-for-Redwine-vigil</b>

Grab the video link that OtherEyes put up. The quote that sent me spiraling is word for word. Straight from Dad's mouth.

&#8220;I want everyone to know how much I love that boy and how much I cared about him, and how much I thank the community for all the effort that they put in,&#8221; he said. &#8220;He was such a wonderful boy. He meant everything.&#8221;




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[OtherEyes]

I keep rereading that quote from Dad and I'm just sick. I have a really bad sinking feeling. All the effort that went into executing the SW today makes perfect sense to me now.

My first born is 17 today. He's a typical teenager and he has pulled more than 1 stunt where I have wanted to choke him (replacing vodka with water = fail) but I can't imagine ever laying a hand on a child, any child. I will never understand parents killing their children. It shouldn't happen.


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From day one I had a physical response to this story that I couldn't explain. I didn't know why but... I'm gonna go find a maglight and try not to wake up Bravo in that tunnel.

Goodnight for now...
I'm sure I'll be dreaming of Dylan. Praying for him to be found quickly.

 

[katydid23]

Does dad have a cell phone? I know some posters have wondered why Dylan didn't use dad's landline if there was no cell reception. But, does anyone know for certain that dad has a landline? Many people don't any more.

I can't go back and find it now, but back at the start, there was a confirmation dads had a landline.

 

[AlexisFresca]

You sure raise some good points. I certainly know up close and personal of the horrible devastation caused by parental alienation. I can see it happening in this case on either OR both sides, unfortunately.

Often in child custody, parents are forbidden to move the child outside of a certain range from the other parent, even if the other parentis noncustodial. that range has been 60 miles in the cases i knew of personally; not sure about Colorado laws. I'm not sure when this mom became the primary custodial parent and why. I'm not sure why permission, either from dad or from family court, was given to move Dylan away. Those would be interesting factors to know.

I also know of a mom who got permission to move a child to another state by promising to not seek child support (so that dad could afford to fly his child for visitations, @ mom's suggestion), then she filed for child support anyway after the move. Fortunately, this father did not have rage and control issues, he just felt betrayed and disappointed. And was broken in spirit the rest of his life.

Imo, this might be starting to change. Have a friend in NC, divorced. His ex wife wanted to move out of state. Now keep in mind, NC, stern, Bible belt, etc. Anyway, she was able to move with her son out of state to Georgia. Told him I was surprised that he would allow such a thing. He replied, saying, unless you can prove she was abusing the child, she can basically move where she wants to - per his attorney!

Just some food for fodder.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Indeed! :floorlaugh:

(In case you're just tuning in, we have a few folks here who especially look forward to Mr. Torres' broadcasts...wink, wink)

Has anyone officially invited Mr. Torres to join us here at WS?

If he is invited and accepts he will be welcomed warmly as this group is especially generous with all sorts of baked goods and treats and who knows what else:floorlaugh:


Oh yeah, it was you who woke up in the middle of the night with a racing heart and an important tip related to Dylan's case, right?? Well last night I woke up in the middle of the night with a racing heart and a wicked craving for peanut butter and fudge icing. As I was blindly stumbling around my kitchen spooing the calories out of the jars, I thought your mid- night revelation was a lot more productive (and healthy) than mine! So... well done on your part!LOL

 

[princesspjs]

&#8220;I want everyone to know how much I love that boy and how much I cared about him, and how much I thank the community for all the effort that they put in,&#8221; he said. &#8220;He was such a wonderful boy. He meant everything.&#8221; Mark Redwine

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121129/NEWS01/121129570/-1/s

This is how Mark Redwine addressed the crowd at a vigil on Tuesday at Eagle Park in Bayfield.

Are you kidding me?!?! :furious:

The players seem to always give them selves away. (This comment does not pertain to the quote above. It's just a comment in general.)

IMO, JMO, MOO.

 

[vasportsmom]

&#8220;I want everyone to know how much I love that boy and how much I cared about him, and how much I thank the community for all the effort that they put in,&#8221; he said. &#8220;He was such a wonderful boy. He meant everything.&#8221; Mark Redwine

This is how Mark Redwine addressed the crowd at a vigil on Tuesday at Eagle Park in Bayfield.

Are you kidding me?!?!:furious:

The players seem to always give them selves away. (This comment does not pertain to the quote above, it's just a comment in general.)

IMO, JMO, MOO.

That comment is ever bit as damning as a confession in my eyes. It was staggering and sickening to watch that video and see him make that statement.


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[margarita25]

Re: the use of past tense, as Katy would say, definite hinky meter material (I love that word hinky, I hadn't seen it used until here, lol).

 

[LotusPawprint]

“I want everyone to know how much I love that boy and how much I cared about him, and how much I thank the community for all the effort that they put in,” he said. “He was such a wonderful boy. He meant everything.”

(From above link)

That is the first time I have saw that entire quote and I.DO.NOT.LIKE.


ETA: It is one thing to mix your tenses in these situations, even Mom has did it but that quote by Dad can not be read any way other than "my son is dead".

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To me it has a sound of finality, imo. Not even like he's accepting that's one of the possibilities or a likely outcome but that it's happened. It gave me chills hearing it on the video.

 

[princesspjs]

I think that since I can't sleep I'm going to go through the media thread from the beginning and watch all of the videos.

Ugh...this is why I can't sleep. There's too many kids missing and they need help to be found.

 

[cluciano63]

Dad's statement is rather...bleak-sounding to say the least. Sounds like something one would say at a memorial or funeral. Not really something to rally the troops, so to speak, to help find his son.

 

[OneLove]

This is how Mark Redwine addressed the crowd at a vigil on Tuesday at Eagle Park in Bayfield.

Are you kidding me?!?! :furious:

The players seem to always give them selves away. (This comment does not pertain to the quote above, it's just a comment in general.)

IMO, JMO, MOO.

This video so sickened me I couldn't watch the end. And my ire hit flashpoint in less than a second when this "dad" felt he had to mention in a vigil for his missing son that he and his exwife didn't get along. Personally,my gut felt that was just another way of pointing blame toward HER for this situation. As though she should have "gotten along" with him better or this wouldn't have happened. But that's just my gut speaking. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that forensics and investigation lead us in a better direction than this.

 

[vasportsmom]

To me it has a sound of finality, imo. Not even like he's accepting that's one of the possibilities or a likely outcome but that it's happened. It gave me chills hearing it on the video.

That is EXACTLY it - FINAL. He is saying to the community "Thanks for trying. He's dead so there is nothing more for you to do. Move along now".


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[AlexisFresca]

A liberal use of past tense, that's for sure.

Ok, so the vigil. We read that this is a close community and that everybody knows everybody, watches out for other peoples' children and so on.
MR said he was late coming to the vigil because he didn't know about it. How can this be?
Then I come back to, MR saying he wasn't getting a lot of support.
Just trying to understand all these contradictions.

 

[momrids6]

But no way, IMO, he would not have texted his friends in the morning. That is the biggest problem for me, as far as him even waking up in the house. Not using his phone.

:fence: we don't have any factual information concerning the landline and the agree to disagree issue of what LE means "since he went missing" concerning other modes of communication. And no factual info concerning cell service, or where the darn phone is! :fence:

 

[katydid23]

I don't know if I am even allowed to say this but I did not get a good feeling when dad said that he tried to wake Dylan and he was "out like a light". Ick. It's not THAT hard to wake a sleeping kid and tell them you are leaving. Maybe he wouldn't get out of bed, but to be out like a light? I don't like the sound of that. I have a hard time believing he would not wake up at all...especially since he was looking forward to hanging out with his friends.

MOO

Especially now that we have been told that Dylan actually went to bed as soon as he got home. So if he was asleep by 9 pm, why couldnt he wake up 10 hrs later?

 

[margarita25]

Mark Redwine worked at United Pipeline Systems in April 2010 when a kitchen fire caused heavy damage to his house.
http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129662/Search-changes-focus--

I need to be really careful about how I phrase this.

Sometimes fires are caused by materials other than pot roast and gravy.
Just a thought with absoluuuuutely no verification.

 

[Ronso]

Listening to him talk almost gave me the impression he was apologizing for something. His son is gone and he wants them all to know how much he loved him.... almost in preparation for the truth to come out, KWIM?

ETA: Almost like... (sorry sick and tired, so my brain is super slow) "I loved him more than anything and I didn't mean to hurt him" seemed to be between the lines in that dialogue.