CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #13

[tamild]

But why would he go and try to hitch hike without first reaching out to his waiting friends. He was supposed to be dropped off there at 6:30 am. So he gets up, watches Nick, eats some cereal, but never reaches out to the friends who are waiting?

Why would he rush out to hitchhike 20 miles when his ride was coming back at 11 ? He didnt even call to make sure his friends were still there waiting for him? And he didnt call his friend in Vallecito to see if he could get a ride to town.

I just cannot believe that he would pack up and go hitchhike, without making some calls first.

I know it doesn't make sense, but this is what his friends think happened. IMO-I'm inclined to give their theory a lot of weight since they know Dylan and we don't, kwim?

 

[Abby Normal Again]

The ruled out SO abduction, not abduction in general. And that "inconclusive" came from ER when she was NG. Along with the: He didn't take one at all, I don't know if he took one, he took one but it was inconclusive, he needs to take another one.

To further split hairs, I think they only ruled out immediate area Rso's.

 

[NC Analyzer]

JMO, but all the excuses, explanations, reasoning, theories, coincidences and "I woulda done this or that's" that have been thrown out here in defense of MR mean only one thing to me...this guy has to be the unluckiest dude on the face of the earth. I mean really? One or two things can be explained, possibly, but to have an entire list of "coincidences" come together on the day your son turns up missing? The fates of the God's must be frowning on him big time.

 

[Seajay]

To further split hairs, I think they only ruled out immediate area Rso's.

Yup, and it's not like other RSO's from other areas don't have vehicles.

 

[jennapuppy]

Yup, and it's not like other RSO's from other areas don't have vehicles.

Or SOs who aren't RSOs yet.

 

[Linda7NJ]

This is just the point. The parents had shared custody for years, the divorce was 5 years ago. The custody had changed recently due to the mom moving several hours away. WHY would he have a motive to murder his son? It makes no sense!

All this talk of him having problems dealing with his ex moving on with her life is only speculation, it's not fact. They both admit they don't see eye-to-eye, but how many divorced couples do? If they all got along, they wouldn't be getting a divorce!

There is a history of violence but not towards his kids, only of his older son beating him up. Many men will hit and beat their wives but treat their children very well and would never dream of hurting one.

I don't get why the man would have any motive, that's all. Did he ever pursue getting full custody of Dylan?? Since he works out of town a lot, would he even want to have him there full time? It's not making sense to me.

Does murder ever make sense? When a parent murders a child?

 

[LotusPawprint]

Putting my personal suspicions aside -- assuming LE believes Dylan got home safely Sunday night, the cell mystery can be explained away somehow, and he somehow went missing between 7:30 - 11:30 but LE doesn't know much more than that...

Why aren't they emphasising the 7:30 - 11:30 Monday morning time period???


If they're really looking at a 4-hour timeframe where this happened, that's the entire case. I think they need to re-canvass every single house, business, inn, and talk to everyone and solicit video and anything else they can get and go bigger in media coverage with more official authority... They need to give the family clearance anf information so they can go public if they want so they can keep Dylan's name and face front page until they find him.

If this happened to be some totally random stranger abduction by someone who has no real ties to the area, they need to get Dylan's face out there and stress to anyone who's family, co-worker, friend, or neighbor may have been on the road or out of town that weekend, that Monday, in the Colorado area, and came home acting strange, and all of the other things they should be saying to make people aware and tuned in to a potential abductor.

I don't know what LE knows, I know what I suspect, I know everyone wants Dylan safe..
But I think there's a whole lot more they could and SHOULD be doing if they really don't know what happened to him. And if they really don't think his father is involved and think this was a random abduction/crime then they owe it to Dylan and his ENTIRE family to fight like hell to find him and bring him home and I'm not seeing it.

JMO.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Yup, and it's not like other RSO's from other areas don't have vehicles.

And all those who've not been caught. We recently had a 6 yo child raped and murdered in my community, the man who is awaiting trial was not registered. Made it to 28 without offending or w/o being caught.

And let me tell you, her family had everything going against them in terms of appearing guilty. Her bio dad is in prison for her prior abuse, mom had just recently brought a boyfriend into the home, mom called 911 with her missing- and she was fovery in nearby abandoned house- lots of red flags on the family in general.

Eta- plus LE kept saying that the community did not need to be concerned, which we all took for code word that it was family.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Why? That is said in just about every case I keep up with.

The only time I heard them rule anyone out was in Jessica Ridgeway's case.

That means both parents and all family members havent been ruled out.

I doubt that they are considering Dylan's mom or her other son....

 

[jjenny]

Well, in the case of a six year old, father was in prison for previously abusing her. So he had a pretty good alibi. Boyfriend also had an alibi since he worked the night shift. The guy that is charged isn't exactly a stranger either-he was the husband of child's babysitter.

 

[scorekeeper]

Putting my personal suspicions aside -- assuming LE believes Dylan got home safely Sunday night, the cell mystery can be explained away somehow, and he somehow went missing between 7:30 - 11:30 but LE doesn't know much more than that...

Why aren't they emphasising the 7:30 - 11:30 Monday morning time period???


If they're really looking at a 4-hour timeframe where this happened, I think that's extremely important to this case. I think they need to re-canvass every single house, business, inn, and go bigger in media coverage with more official authority...

If this happened to be some totally random stranger abduction by someone who has no real ties to the area, they need to get Dylan's face out there and stress to anyone who's family, co-worker, friend, or neighbor may have been on the road or out of town that weekend, that Monday, in the Colorado area, and came home acting strange, and all of the other things they should be saying to make people aware and tuned in to a potential abductor.

I don't know what LE knows, I know what I suspect, I know everyone wants Dylan safe..
But I think there's a whole lot more they could and SHOULD be doing if they really don't know what happened to him. And if they really don't think his father is involved and think this was a random abduction/crime then they owe it to Dylan and his ENTIRE family to fight like hell to find him and bring him home and I'm not seeing it.

JMO.

Great Post. I totally agree.

 

[vasportsmom]

And all those who've not been caught. We recently had a 6 yo child raped and murdered in my community, the man who is awaiting trial was not registered. Made it to 28 without offending or w/o being caught.

And let me tell you, her family had everything going against them in terms of appearing guilty. Her bio dad is in prison for her prior abuse, mom had just recently brought a boyfriend into the home, mom called 911 with her missing- and she was fovery in nearby abandoned house- lots of red flags on the family in general.

That case was tragic. Little Jersey deserved so much better.


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[missrugby]

I have been following in the background and don't post very much. If Dylan was "out like a light" at 7:30am, then woke up (we just don't know when), ate a bowl of cereal, watched tv, then why wouldn't he have just waited for dad to get home to go to his friends? Setting off to walk or hitch hike just doesn't set well with me. But if he did decide to leave wouldnt he leave a note? I would also think he would definitely make sure his friends were around before he decided to show up at their houses. This is only my opinion but I have several nephews Dylan's age and their phones are basically their lifeline. They may have to be told to shower daily, do their homework, brush their teeth, etc. but one thing those boys don't have to be reminded to do is charge their phones...especially at night because they all make sure it's fully charged the next day. None of it makes any sense to me.

 

[Angelonline]

There isn't one. I checked already. Big boy toys are there.

Sorry quoted wrong post. Can't fix it from my tablet.



How long does it take to acclimate to it? About ten years ago my family spent the summer in Colorado Springs while my husband was working there. It is about 6000 elevation and I dont remember feeling sick more than a day or two.

What I'm getting at is couldn't searchers arrive a few days early meet with police and family, get their plans and details down and then search after they are accilmated to the elevation?

 

[Confusion]

Putting my personal suspicions aside -- assuming LE believes Dylan got home safely Sunday night, the cell mystery can be explained away somehow, and he somehow went missing between 7:30 - 11:30 but LE doesn't know much more than that...

Why aren't they emphasising the 7:30 - 11:30 Monday morning time period???

If they're really looking at a 4-hour timeframe where this happened, I think that's extremely important to this case. I think they need to re-canvass every single house, business, inn, and go bigger in media coverage with more official authority...

If this happened to be some totally random stranger abduction by someone who has no real ties to the area, they need to get Dylan's face out there and stress to anyone who's family, co-worker, friend, or neighbor may have been on the road or out of town that weekend, that Monday, in the Colorado area, and came home acting strange, and all of the other things they should be saying to make people aware and tuned in to a potential abductor.

I don't know what LE knows, I know what I suspect, I know everyone wants Dylan safe..
But I think there's a whole lot more they could and SHOULD be doing if they really don't know what happened to him. And if they really don't think his father is involved and think this was a random abduction/crime then they owe it to Dylan and his ENTIRE family to fight like hell to find him and bring him home and I'm not seeing it.

JMO.

Because they haven't ruled out anyone, including MR. That doesn't mean they believe he's guilty, but it also doesn't mean they're 100% sure he's not. MOO

And all those who've not been caught. We recently had a 6 yo child raped and murdered in my community, the man who is awaiting trial was not registered. Made it to 28 without offending or w/o being caught.

And let me tell you, her family had everything going against them in terms of appearing guilty. Her bio dad is in prison for her prior abuse, mom had just recently brought a boyfriend into the home, mom called 911 with her missing- and she was fovery in nearby abandoned house- lots of red flags on the family in general.

That poor little girl definitely deserved a better life than she had. I hope things work out better for her little sister.

 

[beach]

THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYONE!!

TXJan1971's succinct timeline was amazing. vasportsmom's notes and Confusion's Mark Redwine quotes were just as helpful putting all the pieces together. So many of you posted here various items that I grabbed and put in yet another word doc to send to Tricia.

We both thank you so much for helping get this synopsis together.

I :heartbeat: me some TEAMWORK! You guys are fantastic!

:highfive: everybody!


Now, let me go grab the link to Tricia's Radio Show! brb

 

[cfreyja23]

And all those who've not been caught. We recently had a 6 yo child raped and murdered in my community, the man who is awaiting trial was not registered. Made it to 28 without offending or w/o being caught.

And let me tell you, her family had everything going against them in terms of appearing guilty. Her bio dad is in prison for her prior abuse, mom had just recently brought a boyfriend into the home, mom called 911 with her missing- and she was fovery in nearby abandoned house- lots of red flags on the family in general.

I know which case you refer to. That poor baby survived horrible abuse by her own parents, only to become a victim of another . Wasn't the guy who killed her a neighbor/"friend of the family"? IIRC, the girl's family counted this guy as an acquaintance.

 

[momrids6]

My child who is Dylan's age hasn't had her phone charged since Friday, since I help make sure it's charged before school on weekdays. She texts a fair amount on a monthly basis, but she is out of sight of mind with her cell phone. My child a bit older always has it charged and ready to go.

I am not even sure what to make of the phone not being on.

coming from the city- where there was continual service may make one forget
what happens when you go to an area with spotty coverage, and how many days a charge will last. Within the timeframe of Dylan's disappearance, my 15 yr old permanently turned my old flip phone off- he dropped it. And- there are 2 different stories that conflict with each other as to the status of the phone- off or no activity. I know who said what, the links, and where- just sayin'.

 

[SuziQ]

Backpedaling from what? They've seemed to be working from that premise from the start, but at the same time, investigating other possibilities. Most LE don't just pursue one theory, they work several different angles all at the same time.

I don't get the "making someone feel more comfortable." IF they suspected Mark had something to do with it, yeah, possibly. But they haven't given much indication that he is a suspect, so I don't think they are playing games.

You know, the search at his house doesn't necessarily have to do with him being the primary suspect. They could also be trying to rule out something happening to Dylan in the hours that Mark was out doing errands.

That's my opinions, anyway, but of course I can't read their minds, so IDK.

It's the statement that abduction is exactly what LE thinks has happened is what I haven't heard before and is new. And yeah, LE does play games with their suspects.

 

[Ransom]

Putting my personal suspicions aside -- assuming LE believes Dylan got home safely Sunday night, the cell mystery can be explained away somehow, and he somehow went missing between 7:30 - 11:30 but LE doesn't know much more than that...

Why aren't they emphasising the 7:30 - 11:30 Monday morning time period???


If they're really looking at a 4-hour timeframe where this happened, that's the entire case. I think they need to re-canvass every single house, business, inn, and talk to everyone and solicit video and anything else they can get and go bigger in media coverage with more official authority... They need to give the family clearance anf information so they can go public if they want so they can keep Dylan's name and face front page until they find him.

If this happened to be some totally random stranger abduction by someone who has no real ties to the area, they need to get Dylan's face out there and stress to anyone who's family, co-worker, friend, or neighbor may have been on the road or out of town that weekend, that Monday, in the Colorado area, and came home acting strange, and all of the other things they should be saying to make people aware and tuned in to a potential abductor.

I don't know what LE knows, I know what I suspect, I know everyone wants Dylan safe..
But I think there's a whole lot more they could and SHOULD be doing if they really don't know what happened to him. And if they really don't think his father is involved and think this was a random abduction/crime then they owe it to Dylan and his ENTIRE family to fight like hell to find him and bring him home and I'm not seeing it.

JMO.

Another List here:
Been on TV/print media all over CO
Been on TV/print media all over NM
Print media in AZ
Print media in UT
Talked about on HLN (cable) - Nancy Grace and JVM - several times
Good Morning America
CBS - print media
Flyers all over the place
I took flyers to the I-40 and 1-25 truck stops and asked them to be handed out to the truckers.

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