CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #13

[tiredblondy]

http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html (Dec.3,2012)

Mark Redwine said he is talking with media because he wants to keep people searching for Dylan.

“My focus is to try to keep Dylan in the limelight here and remind people that we are looking for a 13-year-old,” he said. “I know the focus is on me. I know this is a story that is grabbing national attention, but I don’t want people to forget about Dylan.”

Mark Redwine is not a suspect and has cooperated in the investigation, Dan Bender, a spokesman for the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office, has said.

Still, Elaine Redwine “seems bent on telling everybody I had something to do with this,” Mark Redwine said.

While Mark Redwine hasn’t spoken to his ex-wife, they traded a few text messages Friday, he said.

He has also met with his other son with Elaine Redwine, Cory, 21, and a son from another marriage, Nicholas, 28, from Arizona.

“We all met together in a private room and sat down and talked. I haven’t heard from Cory for three days,” Mark Redwine said. “I think he’s struggling like we all are. I know he’s closer to his brother and to his mom than to me. We were trying to get our emotions out on the table and focus on finding Dylan.”

Mark Redwine said he would like to meet with his ex-wife but so far has not had success beyond the text messages.

“I don’t want to have dinner with her and become buddy, buddy, but as parents of a missing child, people need to know that we can put our differences aside and that we want our son back,” he said.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html#ixzz2EcCVA12v

also

The focus for him was to go to his friend’s, but I live far back in the canyon. There’s a substantial distance between my house and the lake, so it doesn’t make sense that he would walk out, but he’s a 13-year-old boy, and who knows what they think sometimes?”

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html#ixzz2EcCuO2ET

 

[Confusion]

I guess it would just be another one of those amazing coincidences to add to MR list.

Then again, if it ends up being true than some of those other coincidences may make more sense to people who aren't looking any further than MR. MOO

 

[TxJan1971]

I think Mark said it....may have been in his video store interview

but I'm not sure when

but I pretty sure Mark brought it up or added it to his story

I think so, too. I'm just trying to track down that video and I think my eyes are going buggy. LOL
Anyone else have that link quicker than I may be able to find it, please link.
TIA

 

[FlyerFan28]

Is there a podcast of tonight's radio show?
Totally missed it with dinner, etc.

 

[TxJan1971]

http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html (Dec.3,2012)

Mark Redwine said he is talking with media because he wants to keep people searching for Dylan.

“My focus is to try to keep Dylan in the limelight here and remind people that we are looking for a 13-year-old,” he said. “I know the focus is on me. I know this is a story that is grabbing national attention, but I don’t want people to forget about Dylan.”

Mark Redwine is not a suspect and has cooperated in the investigation, Dan Bender, a spokesman for the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office, has said.

Still, Elaine Redwine “seems bent on telling everybody I had something to do with this,” Mark Redwine said.

While Mark Redwine hasn’t spoken to his ex-wife, they traded a few text messages Friday, he said.

He has also met with his other son with Elaine Redwine, Cory, 21, and a son from another marriage, Nicholas, 28, from Arizona.

“We all met together in a private room and sat down and talked. I haven’t heard from Cory for three days,” Mark Redwine said. “I think he’s struggling like we all are. I know he’s closer to his brother and to his mom than to me. We were trying to get our emotions out on the table and focus on finding Dylan.”

Mark Redwine said he would like to meet with his ex-wife but so far has not had success beyond the text messages.

“I don’t want to have dinner with her and become buddy, buddy, but as parents of a missing child, people need to know that we can put our differences aside and that we want our son back,” he said.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html#ixzz2EcCVA12v

also

The focus for him was to go to his friend’s, but I live far back in the canyon. There’s a substantial distance between my house and the lake, so it doesn’t make sense that he would walk out, but he’s a 13-year-old boy, and who knows what they think sometimes?”

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html#ixzz2EcCuO2ET

THANKS! I'm jumping to my timeline/links and going to make sure this is in there. Have to check. Thanks again

 

[aust amateur slueth]

ok I'm trying to work out the beginning of the monday monring that Dylan disappeared.

Dylans plans were to meet up with friends in Bayfield at 6.30am, a half hour drive away from his dads place.

so allowing for time to shower and get ready this meant his Dad probably got up around 5.30/5.45am? planning to leave at 6am

yet he didn't leave until 7.30am and couldn't get Dylan to get up off the couch, a boy who was itching to see his mates.

I don't get it, I've yet to meet a parent who isn't able to get their child to get up, sure sometimes they can be difficult, usually on a schoolday IMO. When they are looking forward to doing something they are up and raring to get out that door. Give them a shake, make lots of noise, pull the blankets off them, yell at them, they might get cranky but they will get up.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Can someone clarify for me -- if we're following TOS and the rules laid out for each case in the thread, isn't that acceptable? Or am I missing something?

Is MR off limits because he "might be innocent" and negative observations about him are viewed as going after him and upsets some people? Or is this about Dylan and therefore the person who was last seen with him, responsible for his care when he went missing, is unaccounted for, hasn't been ruled out, and in by all objective means SHOULD be the focus of this investigation?

I keep reading somewhat subtle hints at how we "should" be posting, so I'm not sure. Thanks.

We can discuss and debate but we can't out and out accuse. I don't see how anyone could come to the solid conclusion that MR did something to Dylan based on what we know. It's obviously an option to be considered and I don't understand anyone being offended by us considering this option.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Then again, if it ends up being true than some of those other coincidences may make more sense to people who aren't looking any further than MR. MOO

I've looked plenty. I've looked so much and in so many different places my head is spinning. Problem is, every time I look nothing makes any sense and lands me back to the beginning of my observations. Everything is circular in this case and lands right back on dear old dad. JMO

A "few" coincidences...maybe. A list consisting of coincidences at nearly every turn in dad's story...not something I'm buying. Of course, this is all just my opinion.

 

[MrsPC]

on the timeline, per Cnn transcript, ER said that Dylan texted her that MR had picked him up - text rec'd approx 7:06pm.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

So, if Dylan texted right after he was picked up at the airport, then went to Walmart and then to McDonalds, and then texted his friends that he wouldn't be able to see them til Monday morning....and it's a 45min drive to MR's home from the airport...and his phone was turned off or went dead 8:00pm....

that's only 54 minutes from when he let his mom know he had arrived.

Does that mean that it's possible whatever happened to Dylan occurred only about 10 minutes after McDonalds? (if you allow about 20 min for Walmart & 20 min for Mcdonalds)

Or, what was Dylan's location when he texted his mom?

 

[katydid23]

No, I don't actually. You're entitled to make your assumptions about things, and I'm entitled not to. I make assumptions about other things, but sometimes I choose not to.

So you are saying that if he had passed the poly, he would not have told anyone that he passed?

Why wouldnt he tell anyone that? I am curious, because in his press interviews he seems to spend a lot of time defending himself and his actions. So why not add that in?

I don't understand your reasoning, of why he would not have told people that he passsed the poly? Once LE publicly stated that he took one, wouldnt he want people to know that he passed it?

 

[mrsu]

also

The focus for him was to go to his friend’s, but I live far back in the canyon. There’s a substantial distance between my house and the lake, so it doesn’t make sense that he would walk out, but he’s a 13-year-old boy, and who knows what they think sometimes?”

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html#ixzz2EcCuO2ET

So let me get this straight. He lived quite a distance from the lake and doesn't think he would walk there but suggests immediately for them to check the lake?? And he wouldn't walk the far distance to the lake, but he WOULD walk 20+ miles to Bayfield???

Hmmm. *head scratch*

 

[scorekeeper]

here's a link

I really don't want to listen or watch

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vi...becdc-a7db-4713-a0c9-61d13b86cdc5%7c%7c%7c%7c

 

[Confusion]

ok I'm trying to work out the beginning of the monday monring that Dylan disappeared.

Dylans plans were to meet up with friends in Bayfield at 6.30am, a half hour drive away from his dads place.

so allowing for time to shower and get ready this meant his Dad probably got up around 5.30/5.45am? planning to leave at 6am

yet he didn't leave until 7.30am and couldn't get Dylan to get up off the couch, a boy who was itching to see his mates.

I don't get it, I've yet to meet a parent who isn't able to get their child to get up, sure sometimes they can be difficult, usually on a schoolday IMO. When they are looking forward to doing something they are up and raring to get out that door. Give them a shake, make lots of noise, pull the blankets off them, yell at them, they might get cranky but they will get up.

It's been said many times that he didn't exercise his visitation rights as much as he could, so maybe he's just an inexperienced parent. He doesn't get him up for school every morning like ER does, so maybe he just accepted that he was too tired to get up, rather than telling him to get up now or you aren't going - like most of us mothers would do. MOO

 

[tiredblondy]

So let me get this straight. He lived quite a distance from the lake and doesn't think he would walk there but suggests immediately for them to check the lake?? And he wouldn't walk the far distance to the lake, but he WOULD walk 20+ miles to Bayfield???

Hmmm. *head scratch*

I don't understand what you're saying? The reason MR suggested that was because the fishing pole was missing.

MR did not understand why Dylan would walk anywhere on his own is my interpretation.

The article in a previous post where I quoted his friends is where his friends seemed sure he would leave on his own to try to meet them.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

So let me get this straight. He lived quite a distance from the lake and doesn't think he would walk there but suggests immediately for them to check the lake?? And he wouldn't walk the far distance to the lake, but he WOULD walk 20+ miles to Bayfield???

Hmmm. *head scratch*

BBM

Did Dad suggest that they check the lake? I never really understood what took them to the lake and assumed it was the comment by Dad saying the fishing pole was missing.

Some of his comments are bizarre and contradictory.

 

[Confusion]

So you are saying that if he had passed the poly, he would not have told anyone that he passed?

Why wouldnt he tell anyone that? I am curious, because in his press interviews he seems to spend a lot of time defending himself and his actions. So why not add that in?

I don't understand your reasoning, of why he would not have told people that he passsed the poly? Once LE publicly stated that he took one, wouldnt he want people to know that he passed it?

I've been looking for the link to this, but haven't been able to find it. They asked him about it in the same video/article as his comment that he didn't want to talk anymore because people only want to listen to ER. I think he was possibly upset that they didn't have him on the show, and they spent the entire thing bad-mouthing him, making accusations, etc. MOO

 

[SCHMAE]

If he hitched a ride from the neighbor who happens to be a RSO, does it really matter whether he put out his thumb or not? In that area, and from what's been said about the road he would have taken, it would have most likely been a neighbor or someone familiar who stopped anyway, wouldn't it?

I think if an unknown SO got him, via giving a ride, it would end up being someone the whole town knows, but didn't know was an SO until this. Been a lot of talk of how many SO's there are that are not registered because they've never been caught. I read a book many years ago called " PROTECTING THE GIFT" ... Idk if any of you have read it. If not, I highly recommend it. I read it as a parent, but it had loads of great info in it about every kind of ' threat' to adults and children. ANYWAY, it said ( paraphrasing) that an SO who preys on male victims has between 100 to 150 victims BEFORE being caught . *( i cannot remember the number but I promise you it was a HUGE number that is not to be believed, over 100 ) So , nice little ole guy in town, maybe the mechanic, maybe the librarian, maybe the mailman, maybe the pastor,, everyone knows him, it could be HIM and he's getting away with it all day and no one knows. ( think that coach at penn state whose name escapes me, just went to prison, how many victims in his reign ,,dozens or MORE )
Sorry to be long winded...............or am I ?

 

[tiredblondy]

ok I'm trying to work out the beginning of the monday monring that Dylan disappeared.

Dylans plans were to meet up with friends in Bayfield at 6.30am, a half hour drive away from his dads place.

so allowing for time to shower and get ready this meant his Dad probably got up around 5.30/5.45am? planning to leave at 6am

yet he didn't leave until 7.30am and couldn't get Dylan to get up off the couch, a boy who was itching to see his mates.

I don't get it, I've yet to meet a parent who isn't able to get their child to get up, sure sometimes they can be difficult, usually on a schoolday IMO. When they are looking forward to doing something they are up and raring to get out that door. Give them a shake, make lots of noise, pull the blankets off them, yell at them, they might get cranky but they will get up.

Well you've just met me and we discussed this in depth a few threads back. Personal experience with early morning and teens.

So now you've met me LOL who was not able to get their child up for something they were looking forward too. Then it was my fault during the day while they suffered the consequences. Edited to add this happened more than once in my house...

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I just wonder how/why Dad noticed the fishing pole was missing. Did he buy him one at Walmart and it was in the house? Did Dylan get the fishing pole out of the garage when he got home because he planned to take it with him to Bayfield? Was it common for Dylan to go fishing by himself while visiting Dad? Did Dylan discuss wanting to go fishing the night before?

 

[scorekeeper]

So you are saying that if he had passed the poly, he would not have told anyone that he passed?

Why wouldnt he tell anyone that? I am curious, because in his press interviews he seems to spend a lot of time defending himself and his actions. So why not add that in?

I don't understand your reasoning, of why he would not have told people that he passsed the poly? Once LE publicly stated that he took one, wouldnt he want people to know that he passed it?

BBM

that way the focus would be off him (which he has said numerous times he wants to happen)

So, tell everyone you passed, and PUT the focus on DYLAN.

JMO