CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #13

[katydid23]

I've been looking for the link to this, but haven't been able to find it. They asked him about it in the same video/article as his comment that he didn't want to talk anymore because people only want to listen to ER. I think he was possibly upset that they didn't have him on the show, and they spent the entire thing bad-mouthing him, making accusations, etc. MOO

Oh yeah, I remember that conversation. But wouldn't that be the perfect time to say " fwiw, I passed the poly last week."

The way you are describing it, him being upset that everyone is listening to ER, instead of him, and her being on the show instead of him, makes him sound kind of immature and spiteful. JMO

 

[SCHMAE]

on the timeline, per Cnn transcript, ER said that Dylan texted her that MR had picked him up - text rec'd approx 7:06pm.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

So, if Dylan texted right after he was picked up at the airport, then went to Walmart and then to McDonalds, and then texted his friends that he wouldn't be able to see them til Monday morning....and it's a 45min drive to MR's home from the airport...and his phone was turned off or went dead 8:00pm....

that's only 54 minutes from when he let his mom know he had arrived.

Does that mean that it's possible whatever happened to Dylan occurred only about 10 minutes after McDonalds? (if you allow about 20 min for Walmart & 20 min for Mcdonalds)

Or, what was Dylan's location when he texted his mom?

:what:

You just gave me a thought ! The pings, the pinging phones ! Surely by now the cops know where that 8 pm PING was from........so perhaps that PING is not from the location that MR says they were at , see? Something does not make sense about the location and route and time line and they know a PING came from point A while MR says they were drivign at point B. NO offense to MR ,b ut I doubt if he knows how the pinging thing works. MY DH would have no clue except I make him watch some ID channel with me

 

[Confusion]

Oh yeah, I remember that conversation. But wouldn't that be the perfect time to say " fwiw, I passed the poly last week."

The way you are describing it, him being upset that everyone is listening to ER, instead of him, and her being on the show instead of him, makes him sound kind of immature and spiteful. JMO

I don't think he's the only one who comes across that way in this case, but he is the only one who can be discussed, so I'll just say - being immature and spiteful doesn't necessarily make you a murderer. MOO

 

[SCHMAE]

It's been said many times that he didn't exercise his visitation rights as much as he could, so maybe he's just an inexperienced parent. He doesn't get him up for school every morning like ER does, so maybe he just accepted that he was too tired to get up, rather than telling him to get up now or you aren't going - like most of us mothers would do. MOO

Right and Dylan probably says GEEZ DAD, it's vacation time, grrrrrrr . Let me sleep ! MR just rolls his eyes and walks off.

 

[jennapuppy]

Have any of Dylan's friends verified that they planned to get together at 6:30 am on Monday morning? I believe it has been verified that they were going to spend time together on Monday, but have any friends verified the early hour for their get-together and why they picked that time?

 

[NC Analyzer]

Oh yeah, I remember that conversation. But wouldn't that be the perfect time to say " fwiw, I passed the poly last week."

The way you are describing it, him being upset that everyone is listening to ER, instead of him, and her being on the show instead of him, makes him sound kind of immature and spiteful. JMO

Just have to say I agree with this assessment of MR actions. Every time I see him he seems to be him defending himself or he is talking about Elaine. Why is that? Immature and spiteful does describe that attitude, but there is something else bothering me about these interviews with him...just a feeling I have, but I don't think my gut instincts are allowed here so I will keep it to myself unless I see someone else bring it up.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Have any of Dylan's friends verified that they planned to get together at 6:30 am on Monday morning? I believe it has been verified that they were going to spend time together on Monday, but have any friends verified the early hour for their get-together and why they picked that time?

Good question. I thought perhaps Dad had an early morning appt and to make it on time he would have had to drop Dylan off at 6:30. But when he said he didn't actually leave until 7:30 that theory went out the window. I know the boys were informed via text that plans had changed from that night to the next day. I don't know if the 6:30am time was confirmed.

 

[Ransom]

Have any of Dylan's friends verified that they planned to get together at 6:30 am on Monday morning? I believe it has been verified that they were going to spend time together on Monday, but have any friends verified the early hour for their get-together and why they picked that time?

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...0/FRONTPAGE/Mystery-lingers-over-missing-teen

 

[scorekeeper]

BBM

Did Dad suggest that they check the lake? I never really understood what took them to the lake and assumed it was the comment by Dad saying the fishing pole was missing.

Some of his comments are bizarre and contradictory.

I "think" he said something about he didn't understand why they didn't check the lake sooner since he told them his fishing pole was missing along with him...

JMO - not direct quote

 

[vasportsmom]

Can anyone think of another case where a child disappeared while in the care of a NCP and that parent wasn't responsible?


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[aust amateur slueth]

It's been said many times that he didn't exercise his visitation rights as much as he could, so maybe he's just an inexperienced parent. He doesn't get him up for school every morning like ER does, so maybe he just accepted that he was too tired to get up, rather than telling him to get up now or you aren't going - like most of us mothers would do. MOO

an inexperienced parent IMO is more likely to get angry when a child doesn't get up.


I know I'd be looking at the fuel side of returning to pick up a child later on, double the fuel would be annoying as well as the extra travelling time.

 

[katydid23]

I think if an unknown SO got him, via giving a ride, it would end up being someone the whole town knows, but didn't know was an SO until this. Been a lot of talk of how many SO's there are that are not registered because they've never been caught. I read a book many years ago called " PROTECTING THE GIFT" ... Idk if any of you have read it. If not, I highly recommend it. I read it as a parent, but it had loads of great info in it about every kind of ' threat' to adults and children. ANYWAY, it said ( paraphrasing) that an SO who preys on male victims has between 100 to 150 victims BEFORE being caught . *( i cannot remember the number but I promise you it was a HUGE number that is not to be believed, over 100 ) So , nice little ole guy in town, maybe the mechanic, maybe the librarian, maybe the mailman, maybe the pastor,, everyone knows him, it could be HIM and he's getting away with it all day and no one knows. ( think that coach at penn state whose name escapes me, just went to prison, how many victims in his reign ,,dozens or MORE )
Sorry to be long winded...............or am I ?

The only scenario that seems to fit the circumstances here is not a stranger abduction or a random RSO.Imo, the scenario that fits the situation is if someone that Dylan recognized or was acquainted with, came by the home that morning. Maybe the realtor from the House For Sale, from across the street. Or a neighbor that knew his dad, and stopped by to check in and say hello. If dad worked out of town for long periods, he probably had someone nearby who checked on his property occasionally, or something like that.

But for Dylan to have everything in his backpack with him, I think he thought he was getting a ride to his friends in B-town. And if he was suddenly offered the opportunity for a quick ride, then I can justify his not calling anyone yet. Maybe he planned to do so on the way.

So I hope that LE has looked closely at all of the neighbors and friends of dads already. Even the kindly old neighbor and the local realtor and the friend who helps him stack the firewood.

 

[TxJan1971]

I think if an unknown SO got him, via giving a ride, it would end up being someone the whole town knows, but didn't know was an SO until this. Been a lot of talk of how many SO's there are that are not registered because they've never been caught. I read a book many years ago called " PROTECTING THE GIFT" ... Idk if any of you have read it. If not, I highly recommend it. I read it as a parent, but it had loads of great info in it about every kind of ' threat' to adults and children. ANYWAY, it said ( paraphrasing) that an SO who preys on male victims has between 100 to 150 victims BEFORE being caught . *( i cannot remember the number but I promise you it was a HUGE number that is not to be believed, over 100 ) So , nice little ole guy in town, maybe the mechanic, maybe the librarian, maybe the mailman, maybe the pastor,, everyone knows him, it could be HIM and he's getting away with it all day and no one knows. ( think that coach at penn state whose name escapes me, just went to prison, how many victims in his reign ,,dozens or MORE )
Sorry to be long winded...............or am I ?

Jerry Sandusky

 

[LotusPawprint]

Oh yeah, I remember that conversation. But wouldn't that be the perfect time to say " fwiw, I passed the poly last week."

The way you are describing it, him being upset that everyone is listening to ER, instead of him, and her being on the show instead of him, makes him sound kind of immature and spiteful. JMO

ITA.

I think this is the link you're referring to. With the quote,

When contacted Monday, Mark Redwine declined to be interviewed, saying, “At this point, I think I’ve said as much as I need to say.”


He added: “The community’s been great. My problem is my ex-wife. She seems to have all the answers, and she seems to be the one everybody wants to listen to.”

He's got nothin' to say. Except his wife is a problem. And she has the answers. And everyone wants to listen to her (except HE is the one with the answers and HE is the one people want to hear). GROW UP!!
But nothing about his child. Or his poly. Or anything the public might find helpful in the search for his kid. Just no comment.Wait my ex is the problem in this situation. Well heaven forbid!

I also think if he's upset he didn't get to go on NG or ABC or wherever... he should be proactive. If he wants to advocate for his child, he should do it. I would suggest steering clear of JVM/NG because they're vicious but take your lawyer, go on a more reputable news program like Anderson Cooper and tell your missing son's story. Answer the tough questions, get it out there, clear the air, and be the VOICE FOR YOUR SON!! If you want to bicker with ER on air, fine. If you want to rise above it, fine. We're probably gonna analyze you no matter what. But comments like the one above ^^^^ just dig your grave a little deeper.

UGUHHHHHHHH!!!!!





link http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/0/NEWS04/Police-reveal-no-new-leads

 

[T4Tide]

Not trying to be difficult, but in "teen speak", "hitching a ride" is not synonymous with "hitchhiking". The first one refers to catching a ride with people you sorta know, your cousins' best friend's mom, the guy 3 doors down who is heading in the same direction, etc. If that is in fact a quote from Dylan's friends about his activities, more clarification is needed to determine exactly what they were referring to. JMO

Which are exactly the kind of people in my mind that can be so very, very dangerous.

 

[NC Analyzer]

ITA.

I think this is the link you're referring to. With the quote,



He's got nothin' to say. Except his wife is a problem. And she has the answers. And everyone wants to listen to her (except HE is the one with the answers and HE is the one people want to hear). GROW UP!!
But nothing about his child. Or his poly. Or anything the public might find helpful in the search for his kid. Just no comment.Wait my ex is the problem in this situation. Well heaven forbid!

I also think if he's upset he didn't get to go on NG or ABC or wherever... he should be proactive. If he wants to advocate for his child, he should do it. I would suggest steering clear of JVM/NG because they're vicious but take your lawyer, go on a more reputable news program like Anderson Cooper and tell your missing son's story. Answer the tough questions, get it out there, clear the air, and be the VOICE FOR YOUR SON!! If you want to bicker with ER on air, fine. If you want to rise above it, fine. We're probably gonna analyze you no matter what. But comments like the one above ^^^^ just dig your grave a little deeper.

UGUHHHHHHHH!!!!!





link http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/0/NEWS04/Police-reveal-no-new-leads

Yep. What she said. Brilliant.

 

[Tennlyn]

:what:

You just gave me a thought ! The pings, the pinging phones ! Surely by now the cops know where that 8 pm PING was from........so perhaps that PING is not from the location that MR says they were at , see? Something does not make sense about the location and route and time line and they know a PING came from point A while MR says they were drivign at point B. NO offense to MR ,b ut I doubt if he knows how the pinging thing works. MY DH would have no clue except I make him watch some ID channel with me

Are there enough towers in the area to triangulate pings? I'm no techy, so I might be completely offbase here.

 

[Kamille]

I'm trying to find the link to the news article that was posted recently in which MR said that he had told LE from day one that the fishing pole was missing and didn't understand why they didn't check the lake first thing. He then went on to mention that he heard from friends that Dylan may have tried to hitch a ride and that he didn't think he was in the area and that he may have been abducted while doing this.

So from the get go, MR gave two alternate scenarios to LE of what may have happened. Each one very different as it doesn't explain why Dylan would have taken the fishing pole if he was hitching a ride into Bayfield. Unless the boys were planning on going fishing, which we haven't heard anything about. Or why he would have taken his backpack with everything in it to go fishing.

But he's also indicated that he didn't think Dylan would walk all the way to the lake, another contradiction but he doesn't know how 13yr old boys think. Although he does seem to know that his own 13yr old boy finds his friends to be of the utmost importance. Seems he was just throwing out ideas for LE in the beginning. If we are to believe that MR is somehow involved and that Dylan likely never made it to his home Sunday night, I guess I'd rule out the lake and would guess that Dylan is hidden somewhere in the area.

Now if we are to believe that Dylan was abducted while attempting to get to Bayfield, we'd have to believe that he wanted to take his fishing pole there for some reason and that the very first person to have come across him on the road was a predator because no one else appears to have come forward to say that they saw a boy walking along or hitch hiking on any of the roads in the area. That would be quite a stroke of good luck for a predator who was travelling in a remote area where there are likely few children out and about, especially on a Monday morning when there was no school. So you wouldn't think that this was a predator just travelling through the area trolling for children but rather a local unregistered SO who saw an opportunity and went for it. Which would also seem to indicate that Dylan is still somewhere in the area, hopefully being held alive in an even more remote location than MR's house. Or unfortunately deceased and in a location not far from where he was abducted.

I wonder why LE haven't done a surprise road block and check on a subsequent Monday morning to check on traffic coming in and out of the area during that 4hour window?

MOO

 

[NC Analyzer]

Which are exactly the kind of people in my mind that can be so very, very dangerous.

Hitching a ride or Hitchhiking can both have equally disastrous results.
The only difference is potentially the location. If "hitching a ride" it would most likely be with someone local. If "hitchhiking" it could be with anyone from any state...headed to any state. That was the only distinction I was attempting to make.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I think if an unknown SO got him, via giving a ride, it would end up being someone the whole town knows, but didn't know was an SO until this. Been a lot of talk of how many SO's there are that are not registered because they've never been caught. I read a book many years ago called " PROTECTING THE GIFT" ... Idk if any of you have read it. If not, I highly recommend it. I read it as a parent, but it had loads of great info in it about every kind of ' threat' to adults and children. ANYWAY, it said ( paraphrasing) that an SO who preys on male victims has between 100 to 150 victims BEFORE being caught . *( i cannot remember the number but I promise you it was a HUGE number that is not to be believed, over 100 ) So , nice little ole guy in town, maybe the mechanic, maybe the librarian, maybe the mailman, maybe the pastor,, everyone knows him, it could be HIM and he's getting away with it all day and no one knows. ( think that coach at penn state whose name escapes me, just went to prison, how many victims in his reign ,,dozens or MORE )
Sorry to be long winded...............or am I ?

Protecting the Gift is a phenomenal read. Seriously.