CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #13

[margarita25]

Yes, there's a timeline, but "yinz guyz" have made me work even harder. I just updated it again, but not quite ready to reload. The current version is available here: (I have LOTS to add)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zyp4517k6z77s2f/Dylan%20Timeline%20Final.doc

Great work so far. Thanks again.

 

[Yoda]

Just and FYI about SHefner....

She is a WONDERFUL hostess and a great cook. I could smell her food and see her Christmas lights 2 hours away!!!:christmastree::blowkiss:

I heard someone playing drums for two hours tonight, was that shefner too? Actually I think all of Carolina heard them!

 

[katydid23]

Darn, I can tell the fun's starting now...just when I have to leave...bummer...

Yup, I was just getting ready to make Margaritas too. :wink:

 

[Abby Normal Again]

But here is what I don't understand. We know that his plans changed the night before, and Dylan dutifully contacted his friend and said he was not coming over that night. Right?

So why didnt he do that again, the next morning, when THOSE plans changed again? If he was responsible enough to keep his friends updated Sunday night, why wouldnt he do the same thing on Monday morning?

He told his friends he was being dropped off at 6:30 am. Why wouldnt he give them a quick text to say he missed his ride after he decided to walk or hitch a ride later?

That is a huge problem for me as well.

 

[katydid23]

I thought kids knew about 411. Don't they use that as a synonym for the word "information"?

yup. My DD sometimes says ' whats the 411?' when she wants to know what our plans are.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I thought kids knew about 411. Don't they use that as a synonym for the word "information"?

They do. Now how many of them understand it's origin and functional purpose, I do not know. My kids know that 411 means information- but I doubt they'd think to, you know, dial it. :floorlaugh:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I thought kids knew about 411. Don't they use that as a synonym for the word "information"?

How do you spell 4-1-1? :giggle:

 

[katydid23]

That is a huge problem for me as well.

The main reason it is a problem for me is that my DD is a social butterfly. She texts all of the time, making plans and changing plans.

When she was that age I was her taxi-cab. And if I delayed her, and she couldnt get there as planned, she would always text and say she was delayed, because her mom was late.

But the main reason she would do that was to find out where her friends were going to be. Groups of 13 yr olds change their locations hour by hour during vacation days. So I cannot understand why Dylan wouldn't have contacted them before setting out to hitch a ride, to make sure where he should head to. Maybe his friend got tired of waiting for him by 9 am and went somewhere else to hang out.

 

[T4Tide]

I have posted this before, and I'm pretty sure it falls under stuff we can't post, but I'm taking a chance anyway because it is a comment that keeps repeating in the back of my mind. One of Dylan's FB friends posted on 11/23. He didn't post on Dylan's wall, but he posted speaking TO Dylan on the friend's OWN wall. He says (paraphrasing) that he wants Dylan to know that he is not in trouble, and that his friends talked to his (Dylan's) dad and that he just wants him to call home, or call one of his friends (and names a few.)

Was he in trouble? Did something happen that Dylan perceived he was in trouble? Does this mean that he won't be in trouble because of his disappearance? Just trying to figure out what prompted his friend to say this, in particular, as his only address to his missing friend, Dylan.

Of course, I can't link or post the minor's FB page or name, but it is not private.

 

[TxJan1971]

(these are excerpts from the linked article, since the focus seems to be on MR I thought his words were worth listing here)

5 days ago

Dylan Redwine's parents are suffering through one of the worst possible tragedies to hit a parent – a missing child. Even with the community support Mark and Elaine Redwine have received, nothing truly takes away from their pain.

“We've got to put our faith in God,” Mark Redwine said Sunday morning. “I'm trying to stay strong and not lose my faith.”
“Everybody's pitched in,” Elaine Redwine said, noting how the community, including many strangers, have helped in the search for Dylan and in helping the family survive the ordeal.

“Dylan has become our child,” she said about the community.

Mark Redwine said in a telephone interview that “it's been very difficult” dealing with Dylan's disappearance sometime the morning of Nov. 19. “I'm not eating or sleeping,” he said.

Dylan was visiting his father in Vallecito on a court-ordered visit. The Redwines have been divorced since 2007 and Elaine Redwine recently moved with Dylan and his older brother Cory to the Colorado Springs area.

Mark Redwine said he had some frustrations about the whole event, the first being what happened to Dylan.

“We're all searching for that answer,” he said.

“I think we're all frustrated,” including the community, he added.

One of the hardest parts is the type of information he does get.

Mark Redwine said he was told there's an area of Vallecito Reservoir that's “of interest” to law enforcement. This follows a search by New Mexico state dive crews Nov. 25 near the Vallecito dam. At that time, nothing was found.

At the same time, Mark Redwine has been thrust into the public spotlight, something he's not used to.

“I tend to be more of a private person,” he explained. “I keep things bottled up inside.”

Because of the economic recession, Mark Redwine has been working out of the area and comes home to Vallecito when he can.

“Fathers and mothers do what we got to do” to support their families, even if that means long-distance jobs, Redwine said.

He specifically came back Nov. 17 to pick up Dylan at the airport. But Redwine said there had been some mechanical problem with the plane, so Dylan's mother rescheduled for Dylan to fly in Sunday evening.

The 13-year-old was still asleep when his father ran some errands in Durango the morning of Nov. 19. When he came back, Dylan was gone. The search began late that day.
http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...faith-through-adverse-time&template=mobileart

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The article above was one day before the article below. The next day he told the reporter the info below. I think it needs to be presented the way it happened.
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6 days ago
Durango Herald -When contacted Monday, Mark Redwine declined to be interviewed, saying, “At this point, I think I’ve said as much as I need to say.”

He added: “The community’s been great. My problem is my ex-wife. She seems to have all the answers, and she seems to be the one everybody wants to listen to.”
http://www.durangoherald.com/apps/p...ce-reveal-no-new-leads--&template=printpicart

I bolded MR's statements only. Help me understand how anything stated above is really significant in the scheme of finding out what happened to his son? I'm just not seeing it ... but I'm tired, so maybe I should just come back tomorrow with fresh eyes. Help....

 

[vasportsmom]

O/T and stupid compared to the reason we are here but something is wrong with my hamster and I'm afraid I'm about to lose her. I'm crying my eyes out along with my youngest. Please cross your fingers, say a prayer, whatever you believe in.


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[TxJan1971]

I have posted this before, and I'm pretty sure it falls under stuff we can't post, but I'm taking a chance anyway because it is a comment that keeps repeating in the back of my mind. One of Dylan's FB friends posted on 11/23. He didn't post on Dylan's wall, but he posted speaking TO Dylan on the friend's OWN wall. He says (paraphrasing) that he wants Dylan to know that he is not in trouble, and that his friends talked to his (Dylan's) dad and that he just wants him to call home, or call one of his friends (and names a few.)

Was he in trouble? Did something happen that Dylan perceived he was in trouble? Does this mean that he won't be in trouble because of his disappearance? Just trying to figure out what prompted his friend to say this, in particular, as his only address to his missing friend, Dylan.

Of course, I can't link or post the minor's FB page or name, but it is not private.

I read that - but I took it to mean that they don't know where he is but IF Dylan ran away - they want him to know he's not in trouble to just contact someone to let them know he's okay. But... who knows. Maybe someone really does know something that they don't want to admit.... One never knows...

 

[ttcRider]

I heard someone playing drums for two hours tonight, was that shefner too? Actually I think all of Carolina heard them!

was it a little boy?

 

[TxJan1971]

O/T and stupid compared to the reason we are here but something is wrong with my hamster and I'm afraid I'm about to lose her. I'm crying my eyes out along with my youngest. Please cross your fingers, say a prayer, whatever you believe in.


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Hugs to all of you. You're in my thoughts/prayers....
((((((VASPORTSMOM & FAMILY & HAMSTER))))

 

[deca]

I have been trying to catch up:

Earlier I think Ransom posted that cell service was horrible up there. Do any of you remember that post? Did s/he expound on that at all? It would be nice to have that first person account. (since ransom was just up there)

Obviously no cell service might be a reason why he didn't talk to anyone after 8, and why he didn't call his friends first thing.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

The main reason it is a problem for me is that my DD is a social butterfly. She texts all of the time, making plans and changing plans.

When she was that age I was her taxi-cab. And if I delayed her, and she couldnt get there as planned, she would always text and say she was delayed, because her mom was late.

But the main reason she would do that was to find out where her friends were going to be. Groups of 13 yr olds change their locations hour by hour during vacation days. So I cannot understand why Dylan wouldn't have contacted them before setting out to hitch a ride, to make sure where he should head to. Maybe his friend got tired of waiting for him by 9 am and went somewhere else to hang out.

I guess that is our experience to some extent, too. With plans it does seem to change hour by hour, and there is always a call or a text to find out exactly where they were as we actually set out. Because it changes, and your only hope to meet up it to get the 411. (haha)

My kids aren't excessively social, though, I guess. Until this thread I'd have considered them tech savvy and accomplished texters but now I'm starting to think not so much. It's more something to do to pass time if they are bored, or to keep in touch with me. If there is anything more interesting in front of them, it wins. They like being home building things, maybe they are just a touch on the geek side. lol. *I* am way more glued to my phone checking websleuths than they ever would be :blushing:

but, yes, what you said about establishing location before setting out is exactly what I keep coming back to as well. It is our norm with anything social, for sure.

 

[TxJan1971]

I have been trying to catch up:

Earlier I think Ransom posted that cell service was horrible up there. Do any of you remember that post? Did s/he expound on that at all? It would be nice to have that first person account. (since ransom was just up there)

Obviously no cell service might be a reason why he didn't talk to anyone after 8, and why he didn't call his friends first thing.

Yes, MR said it was spotty, ER says she hasn't had much trouble (paraphrasing), it was reported that texts go through, and MR has a computer (unsure who has access/passwords). Let me see if I can find a specific link(s).

Also,

Spotty Cell Phone Service per MR:
Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.

http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage/ci_22108222?source=rss

Spotty Cell Phone/Texts Go Through per ER: (Nancy Grace Interview with ER)
GRACE: What`s this business about bad cell reception in that area? Was there bad cell reception? Did you have a problem hearing from him back on Labor Day, the last time he had visited his dad?

REDWINE: You know, there is bad cell reception, but texts always seemed to come through. So while you can`t necessarily speak with someone on the phone...

GRACE: That`s true.

REDWINE: ... it doesn`t seem like I ever had an issue getting texts from Dylan up there.

GRACE: You know, that`s true. That`s a very common experience. You cannot get a cell to make a cell phone call, but you can get texts in and out. You can even get texts up in the air on an airplane somehow.

REDWINE: Right.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

Also, I believe MR has a landline phone. Have to find a link though...

 

[PaulR]

Yes, MR said it was spotty, ER says she hasn't had much trouble (paraphrasing), it was reported that texts go through, and MR has a computer (unsure who has access/passwords). Let me see if I can find a specific link(s).

Cell phone service can be spotty but texts can still go through.

Short version - you need a continuous connection in order to talk on the phone, but intermittent service will still allow texts to go through. Texts also take less bandwidth.

This is one reason why in emergencies (regional ones) texts can still go through even if you can't call someone up.

 

[katydid23]

I have been trying to catch up:

Earlier I think Ransom posted that cell service was horrible up there. Do any of you remember that post? Did s/he expound on that at all? It would be nice to have that first person account. (since ransom was just up there)

Obviously no cell service might be a reason why he didn't talk to anyone after 8, and why he didn't call his friends first thing.

but we heard from dad that he was at home, texting Dylan monday afternoon, to make sure he was ok. So he must have thought that texting worked.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

NO< ***********ALERT ****************** 'baseball' was a mistake made by someone transcribing a NG transcript. It was supposed to say he was heading to Bayfield, and the genius transcriber wrote ' baseball'...

Oh... Thank you for clarifying that for me!

sorry I posted that info...

I will try to go back and fix it...

:seeya: