CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[beach]

in response to beach, et al...my apologies.

i am most certainly not sleuthing (publically) ER nor MR. but with a whole lot of research, none of which is approved as per TOS, it's pretty easy to ascertain what went on in that family.

attorneys retained by both parties are a matter of public record, and with mod approval i will post.

IMO, JMO, MOO, et cetera...

Send it to me via PM and let me review first please. I know your sleuthing skills very, very well. lol

 

[kkdj]

Yes I've seen her fiance at interviews (the first picture) and I've also read on the Find Dylan facebook page many references to him taking part in searches. I'd say he has been extremely involved in trying to find Dylan. Much more visible than Mark was those first several days. MOO

I have had zero suspicions of the fiancé.
The main questions we here have always had are still the same questions. IMO if we could just know if Dylan made it to dads we could stop spinning in the same circle. I wish we could find out! If he made it to dads then some sort of an abduction is more likely, if he didn't then something else is more likely. Imo

 

[dlc]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/303598/339/Missing-boys-family-had-violent-history
at 1:32 the reporter states about the TRO granted to MR to prevent ER from drinking/driving with the kids in 2005.

In the printed article is that case and then moves to the 2 RO in July 2008 ... one ER against MR and the other MR against ER/CR in July. THOSE two were dismissed in Dec. 2008.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/0/SEARCH/Police-reveal-no-new-leads
Mark Redwine filed a restraining order against his son, Cory, and Elaine Redwine in July 2008. Elaine Redwine filed a restraining order against her ex-husband on the same date. Dylan was listed as a protected person in both orders. Both of the orders were dismissed in December 2008.

But this is another thing that confuses me. If you watch the video, you can see that the TRO from Mr. Redwine (2005) states that TWO YEARS AGO he believed that Mrs. Redwine was driving with the kids after drinking.

So, he waited for two years to bring this to the attention of the court? Honestly, I'm amazed that you can do this, because it seems like it would be almost impossible to defend yourself against such a claim. Can anyone go into court and file a retroactive accusation? Hopefully our friendly lawyer can help me understand.

The very idea makes me paranoid.

Thanks.
IMO, MOO, etc.

 

[shefner]

NOTE TO SELF: If your child is missing, don't kiss your boyfriend in public.

I guess its ok, but I could have done without seeing that. It doesn't mean anything....I just don't like it. Call me a prude. LOL

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Investigators say that of dozens of items flagged by searchers, 10 were collected for future reference in the case.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/missing-148311-monument-search.html#ixzz2EhfAbVzp

BBM-I think this speaks volumes. MOO

In Sierra Lamar's case numerous volunteer searches resulted in dozen and dozens of items found and taken in by LE but I dont think anything that was found during the volunteer searches turned out to be fruitful other than when LE did their own private search..and found her purse/cellphone right after she disappeared.

Nothing they found in the volunteer searches showed them where AGT could have disposed of her remains because none of the items collected were Sierra's or AGTs.

Mark Redwine was at the search and so was Elaine. Mark mentioned they did find a sock that could fit the description of the kind of socks DR was wearing and they did take that in as one of the items but socks are so generic that it could belong to anyone.

From what I read the searchers collected quite a bit of stuff. Unfortunately some people have no qualms about pitching something out of their window or throwing trash down if they walk in the woods. They probably took them to the parents to see if anything may belong to Dylan and those were the 12 items they kept as possibilities and took in. The other stuff they probably knew wasnt relevant.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

My head is spinning. Help me please.

Elaine was married to Mike

Elaine and Mike got divorced

Elaine married Mark

Elaine and Mark got divorced

Elaine is now engaged to Mike (that's seem strange to be engaged to a man you were once married too......)

 

[DylansMom34]

NOTE TO SELF: If your child is missing, don't kiss your boyfriend in public.

I guess its ok, but I could have done without seeing that. It doesn't mean anything....I just don't like it. Call me a prude. LOL

Haha... some people are kissers some not.

 

[DylansMom34]

My head is spinning. Help me please.

Elaine was married to Mike

Elaine and Mike got divorced

Elaine married Mark

Elaine and Mark got divorced

Elaine is now engaged to Mike (that's seem strange to be engaged to a man you were once married too......)

Maybe, although they were likely very young and it doesn't look like they were married very long. She has said she was with Mark for 20(?) years.
Also, if we are keeping track, maybe Sprinkle in Mark's marriages and divorces...

 

[Ransom]

But this is another thing that confuses me. If you watch the video, you can see that the TRO from Mr. Redwine (2005) states that TWO YEARS AGO he believed that Mrs. Redwine was driving with the kids after drinking.

So, he waited for two years to bring this to the attention of the court? Honestly, I'm amazed that you can do this, because it seems like it would be almost impossible to defend yourself against such a claim. Can anyone go into court and file a retroactive accusation? Hopefully our friendly lawyer can help me understand.

The very idea makes me paranoid.

Thanks.
IMO, MOO, etc.

The papers they were showing were from the 2008 case where he was referring to what happened in the past.

 

[Ransom]

My head is spinning. Help me please.

Elaine was married to Mike

Elaine and Mike got divorced

Elaine married Mark

Elaine and Mark got divorced

Elaine is now engaged to Mike (that's seem strange to be engaged to a man you were once married too......)

Correct. You got it.

 

[shefner]

Haha... some people are kissers some not.

I'm a hugger...and kiss my hubby, of course. But that photo looked a bit...I don't know...unnecessary. They probably didn't know a camera was around.
Dang press.

 

[Seajay]

I don't. I think they just collected everything they found and will test it all and hang on to it. But I doubt any of it is relevant and that is just my opinion. I think if they really thought they had found something relevant, they would be back out there searching every inch.

I wouldn't doubt it since no one was accusing him of doing something nefarious to the kid or having news media in his face waiting to report every word he said and putting their own spin on it. JMO, not directed at you or anyone else. Honest. Let's be friends. :blushing:

Oh and that other thing, I was agreeing with you and adding more names to what you said.

 

[kkdj]

The only reason I didn't care for MR saying that Dylan was his whole world is because he does have other children.

Yes I also thought of Cory at the time. I didn't know he others also when he said that. But I also thought he's a more than middle aged man (I think) with a younger son. Sometimes older fathers really get a kick out of their young children, more so than they did the others when the dad was younger and more stressed. I've seen it many times and it can be adorable.
But when ER announced dad doesn't treat Dylan very well, it made me kind of shudder.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

My head is spinning. Help me please.

Elaine was married to Mike

Elaine and Mike got divorced

Elaine married Mark

Elaine and Mark got divorced

Elaine is now engaged to Mike (that's seem strange to be engaged to a man you were once married too......)

I cannot say one thing. My mother and father divorced twice and married three times. Talk about dysfunctional!:floorlaugh: And the sad thing about it they should have never married the first time.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yes I also thought of Cory at the time. I didn't know he others also when he said that. But I also thought he's a more than middle aged man (I think) with a younger son. Sometimes older fathers really get a kick out of their young children, more so than they did the others when the dad was younger and more stressed. I've seen it many times and it can be adorable.
But when ER announced dad doesn't treat Dylan very well, it made me kind of shudder.

BBM!

I take what any ex says with a whole boatload of salt and then some!

 

[Confusion]

I cannot say one thing. My mother and father divorced twice and married three times. Talk about dysfunctional!:floorlaugh: And the sad thing about it they should have never married the first time.

My brother married his high school sweetheart, they got divorced and she married another guy. A few years later, she divorced him and remarried my brother again. All 3 of them are divorced and unremarried (is that a word?) now, but she's still trying to convince my brother that the third time's the charm.

 

[cluciano63]

I have had zero suspicions of the fiancé.
The main questions we here have always had are still the same questions. IMO if we could just know if Dylan made it to dads we could stop spinning in the same circle. I wish we could find out! If he made it to dads then some sort of an abduction is more likely, if he didn't then something else is more likely. Imo

Also, if he was truly abducted, there is a better chance he could be alive, IMO, as opposed to something taking place on Sunday evening.

 

[dlc]

That's what I was hoping for, someone hid him.

If he life with his parents, both of them was a tumultuous as it appears, I wouldn't blame the kid for hiding somewhere. Maybe he just got tired of the constant bickering and badmouthing, if that's the case?

Not trying to be rude, I guess I just don't see it that way. It seems to me (with IMO and all the other caveats added) that Dylan's life with his mom and brother was good, and had probably gotten better in recent years.

He played sports, he had friends, he had an older brother he seems to have adored. His mom, if the picture and article is any indication, also made an effort to keep him in touch with at least one of his half-brothers, visiting when he had his new baby. Elaine Redwine had a good job, and had been stably employed for years (again, if the information out there is correct). It seems like she required that he keep in touch re: his whereabouts (and yes I know to some here that has seemed to be overprotective).

I'm sure he was a regular 13-year old boy, with all the uncertainty and fear and questioning that goes with the territory, but I see every indication that his mother and brother loved him very much, and protected him the best they could.


Thanks.
Again, just trying to see what you're seeing. I could very well be way off base.

 

[scorekeeper]

Maybe, although they were likely very young and it doesn't look like they were married very long. She has said she was with Mark for 20(?) years.
Also, if we are keeping track, maybe Sprinkle in Mark's marriages and divorces...

Oh, I'm not keeping track; trying to get all the players right. Not judging anyone.

So how many times has Mark been hitched?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'm a hugger...and kiss my hubby, of course. But that photo looked a bit...I don't know...unnecessary. They probably didn't know a camera was around.
Dang press.

I cant say anything. My hubby and I kiss in public, hold hands, and hug each other.

My hubby says its all cool cuz we's married!:floorlaugh: