CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[Confusion]

Also, if he was truly abducted, there is a better chance he could be alive, IMO, as opposed to something taking place on Sunday evening.

Just because death is the most likely result in most of the cases of missing children (other than a few hours or some runaways/parental abductions), that doesn't mean it always has to be the first consideration! Somebody has to be those few percent who survive. lease:

 

[cluciano63]

Not trying to be rude, I guess I just don't see it that way. It seems to me (with IMO and all the other caveats added) that Dylan's life with his mom and brother was good, and had probably gotten better in recent years.

He played sports, he had friends, he had an older brother he seems to have adored. His mom, if the picture and article is any indication, also made an effort to keep him in touch with at least one of his half-brothers, visiting when he had his new baby. Elaine Redwine had a good job, and had been stably employed for years (again, if the information out there is correct). It seems like she required that she keep in touch re: his whereabouts (and yes I know to some here that has seemed to be overprotective).

I'm sure he was a regular 13-year old boy, with all the uncertainty and fear and questioning that goes with the territory, but I see every indication that his mother and brother loved him very much, and protected him the best they could.


Thanks.
Again, just trying to see what you're seeing. I could very well be way off base.

I agree, I think Dylan experienced some bad events due to his parents' issues, but that overall, it sounds like his life was not a miserable one. Even if he HAD run away from Dad, he would probably have been anxious to get back to Mom, long before now. (and contacted someone...)

 

[GateKeeper]

Also, if he was truly abducted, there is a better chance he could be alive, IMO, as opposed to something taking place on Sunday evening.

Yes! THIS is why Im still hangin out up here on this fence...I want to have hope.

 

[scorekeeper]

Correct. You got it.

thanks.

wanted to ask if you got any pictures of the area?
also, was wondering if Mark's house was about at the end of the deadend of the county road? Close neighbors?

don't have to answer but wondered if you happened to "drive by"....

TIA

 

[cluciano63]

Just because death is the most likely result in most of the cases of missing children (other than a few hours or some runaways/parental abductions), that doesn't mean it always has to be the first consideration! Somebody has to be those few percent who survive. lease:

That is what I am trying to say; he could be alive, if abducted.

(I feel like I must be speaking Turkish tonight, lol, my posts are being misunderstood. Will try to be clearer.)

 

[beach]

My head is spinning. Help me please.

Elaine was married to Mike

Elaine and Mike got divorced

Elaine married Mark

Elaine and Mark got divorced

Elaine is now engaged to Mike (that's seem strange to be engaged to a man you were once married too......)

Correct. You got it.

Oh, thank God. That is all the circular spinning I can handle tonight.

 

[Confusion]

That is what I am trying to say; he could be alive, if abducted.

(I feel like I must be speaking Turkish tonight, lol, my posts are being misunderstood. Will try to be clearer.)

Believe it or not, I was agreeing with you! :blushing:

 

[Seajay]

Not trying to be rude, I guess I just don't see it that way. It seems to me (with IMO and all the other caveats added) that Dylan's life with his mom and brother was good, and had probably gotten better in recent years.

He played sports, he had friends, he had an older brother he seems to have adored. His mom, if the picture and article is any indication, also made an effort to keep him in touch with at least one of his half-brothers, visiting when he had his new baby. Elaine Redwine had a good job, and had been stably employed for years (again, if the information out there is correct). It seems like she required that she keep in touch re: his whereabouts (and yes I know to some here that has seemed to be overprotective).

I'm sure he was a regular 13-year old boy, with all the uncertainty and fear and questioning that goes with the territory, but I see every indication that his mother and brother loved him very much, and protected him the best they could.


Thanks.
Again, just trying to see what you're seeing. I could very well be way off base.

The problem is that is outside appearances and we can't sleuth anything else pretaining to it. I'm going by what I've observed with court issues and accusations going back and forth. That's drama no matter how you look at it and somehow I don't think Dylan was unaffected by it. What kid is unless the parents keep it completely away from the kid and from what I'm seeing in the news media with statements made, pointing fingers, I'm not seeing that there has been a lot of thought about that. JMO

 

[Tennlyn]

Not trying to be rude, I guess I just don't see it that way. It seems to me (with IMO and all the other caveats added) that Dylan's life with his mom and brother was good, and had probably gotten better in recent years.

He played sports, he had friends, he had an older brother he seems to have adored. His mom, if the picture and article is any indication, also made an effort to keep him in touch with at least one of his half-brothers, visiting when he had his new baby. Elaine Redwine had a good job, and had been stably employed for years (again, if the information out there is correct). It seems like she required that she keep in touch re: his whereabouts (and yes I know to some here that has seemed to be overprotective).

I'm sure he was a regular 13-year old boy, with all the uncertainty and fear and questioning that goes with the territory, but I see every indication that his mother and brother loved him very much, and protected him the best they could.


Thanks.
Again, just trying to see what you're seeing. I could very well be way off base.

ITA. As I said before, I get the feeling ER is a strong woman who got out of a bad bad BAD situation and has been trying to build a healthy life for her and her sons. My gut reaction is that someone else had a real problem with that. MOO :moo:

 

[katydid23]

Is it okay to ask, if during the 20 yrs that Elaine was married to Mark, did Mike get married and have a family? Or is that off limits to ask about?

I am just wondering if he has kids, or are Cory and Dylan his only kids. [ as step kids.]

 

[beach]

Oh, I'm not keeping track; trying to get all the players right. Not judging anyone.

So how many times has Mark been hitched?

You just had to go there, didn't ya?

Are you a glutton for punishment? Doesn't this all make your head hurt?


I can only do this is small doses. haha


j/k scorekeeper! I agree it is interesting to figure it out.


p.s. for anyone sleuthing - no posting of names of any of the ex's. Just the #'s and dates if you want.

 

[katydid23]

ITA. As I said before, I get the feeling ER is a strong woman who got out of a bad bad BAD situation and has been trying to build a healthy life for her and her sons. My gut reaction is that someone else had a real problem with that. MOO :moo:

I agree. I think she has bettered her life and tried to make a healthy, solid home for the boys. She has a very stable job and a new home, and at least her new boyfriend is not a random stranger. lol JMO

 

[beach]

Is it okay to ask, if during the 20 yrs that Elaine was married to Mark, did Mike get married and have a family? Or is that off limits to ask about?

I am just wondering if he has kids, or are Cory and Dylan his only kids. [ as step kids.]

I don't think we need to get into sleuthing Mike. I will okay ONLY if someone wants to confirm IF he was married again and has children of his own. That's it. Nothing more than that.

 

[Seajay]

I was watching a show on the abduction of Shari Faye Smith last night. All she did was went out to the mail box to get the mail and she was abducted. And no one saw it.

 

[Confusion]

I don't think we need to get into sleuthing Mark. I will okay ONLY if someone wants to confirm IF he was married again and has children of his own. That's it. Nothing more than that.

You mean Mike, Mark is the only one who has been approved.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Just because death is the most likely result in most of the cases of missing children (other than a few hours or some runaways/parental abductions), that doesn't mean it always has to be the first consideration! Somebody has to be those few percent who survive. lease:

And sadly it could be an accident.

I have seen some cases of late that even LE thought the person may have met with foul play because no one had heard from them in awhile. And when someone did finally find them it sadly turned out to they had had an accident.

I dont immediately assume a parent has killed the child. If we go by statistics parents killing children are still rare compared to the millions of children in the USA... thank goodness. Approximately 400 per year.

And what makes this case different it is a missing child that LE says they believe has been abducted. I put a link up yesterday of 775 cases of abducted then found murdered children where the relationship was known betweem the child and the perp. Only 14% of the time in 775 abduction/murder cases were the parents involved. BUT 42% of the time it was someone known to the child like an neighbor, friend, another family member or an aquaintance.

As we know most who do murdered those 400 children pretend the child had an accident at home and does a fake 911 call and the autopsy tells a different story.

Imo, this is in Colorado.......the same state that ruled Jessica Ridgeway's mom and dad out. There is a valid reason why no one has been ruled out.....not even those who were supposedly far away from Bayfield.

I have felt from the beginning that there is something going on that we will least expect when revealed. JMO though.

IMO

 

[dlc]

The papers they were showing were from the 2008 case where he was referring to what happened in the past.

I think I'm going crazy, so I had my 21-year old watch the video with me. This is what it said (from what we both understood):

News reporter:

"...The family's strained relationship hit a breaking point in 2005 when Dylan's dad, Mark, requested an order of protection against his mom, Elaine, saying she was drinking and driving with kids..."

The next shot is a screen with the hand-written statement by Mark Redwine on it, reading:

"...2 years ago when living in Denver area, she was bad about drinking and driving with kids..."

So, it appears to me at least, that the first set of papers in the video were from 2005, and referring to events that occurred in 2003 (approximately).

Hope this clarifies things. I'm still amazed that one can actually go into court two years after the fact and allege something like this. Or why one would want to (seems like shutting the barn door after the horse has left).

Oh well.

 

[katydid23]

I was watching a show on the abduction of Shari Faye Smith last night. All she did was went out to the mail box to get the mail and she was abducted. And no one saw it.

But there was a neighbor who saw her ex's car lurking nearby, correct? Or am I mis-remembering?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

But this is another thing that confuses me. If you watch the video, you can see that the TRO from Mr. Redwine (2005) states that TWO YEARS AGO he believed that Mrs. Redwine was driving with the kids after drinking.

So, he waited for two years to bring this to the attention of the court? Honestly, I'm amazed that you can do this, because it seems like it would be almost impossible to defend yourself against such a claim. Can anyone go into court and file a retroactive accusation? Hopefully our friendly lawyer can help me understand.

The very idea makes me paranoid.

Thanks.
IMO, MOO, etc.

I found that odd too, if you were so concerned about your ex wife drinking and driving with the kids in the car wouldn't you report her to LE when you knew for fact she had been drinking. Taking kids out of school would stop one day but what about all the others if she was really drink driving? IMO it sounds like an excuse

bringing it up two years later it seems odd and very petty.

 

[shefner]

My brother married his high school sweetheart, they got divorced and she married another guy. A few years later, she divorced him and remarried my brother again. All 3 of them are divorced and unremarried (is that a word?) now, but she's still trying to convince my brother that the third time's the charm.

...Hence, your screen name.

LOL! Just kidding Confusion. Its amazing how many times these things happen. But you have such a good attitude about it. I've had the same hubby for almost 30 years but every one of my adult kids is crazy. Maybe we should have tried divorce and remarriage a few times.