CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[mrsu]

a commenter on a news story mentioned that MR is unaccounted for between 11AM-4:30PM on Monday. I never realized that. Has anyone heard of MR's whereabouts or activities between 11-4?

IIRC he said he "searched for Dylan in the area", then went to check the friend's home in Vallecito, then the other friend's house in Bayfield. Not sure if that was confirmed.

 

[absentia]

link to article, please and thank you!

I'm not sure if I can post it. It's a writer from a banned site. She wrote an article for some other site, and someone who commented on it pointed that out. So, it really has nothing to do with the article. Just a post that made me realize that it may be true. It's a long time not to be accounted for. But I'm sure LE has accounted for his actions that day. or tried to.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

wow. it's hard to follow the relational lines. I always had a hard time with that. so he's not sure of who his mom was with when he was conceived? He thinks MR might not be his dad?

no, he knows his father is MR but he hasn't spent much time with him over the years, therefore their relationship is fragmented and he doesn't know what his dad is like.

 

[OneLove]

IIRC he said he "search for Dylan in the area", then went to check the friend's home in Vallecito, then the other friend's house in Bayfield. Not sure if that was confirmed.

But that didn't take 5&1/2 hours. So what did he do with the rest of his time?

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I didnt see a court order against her driving. This is what I just copied from Ransom's post upthread:


PO (no drinking with kids in the car) was issued for 2 years in 2005.


To me, that seems kind of pointless. Of course , no drinking with kids in the car. ? :waitasec:

Thanks for you (and the others!0 for pointing that out. What a silly ruling- isn't that a ruling for all of us? For only 2 years? :floorlaugh:

It all makes more sense now, thanks! That seemed really strange of a result without something more than a claim.

 

[thepinkdragon]

Wow all, I just power skimmed over this entire thread for the past 30 minutes and now I'm dizzy. For a few minutes there I thought I was reading posts from days ago, if you get my drift. Glad to see some humor though, things were getting very heated in here before. So where is Dylan?! Come on LE give us a press conference!

 

[absentia]

IIRC he said he "search for Dylan in the area", then went to check the friend's home in Vallecito, then the other friend's house in Bayfield. Not sure if that was confirmed.

Ok, right. but hmmm, that's not a very strong confirmation of everything he was doing. but again, I bet LE knows.
It's just another open question.

 

[mrsu]

But that didn't take 5&1/2 hours. So what did he do with the rest of his time?

If I answer this I will be in a timeout. :angel:

 

[absentia]

Yea, he isn't saying he doesn't know who his biological father is, he is saying he doesn't really know what kind of person his father is.

okay, thanks. that makes sense. it also speaks volumes if that's the case.

 

[jjenny]

Ok, right. but hmmm, that's not a very strong confirmation of everything he was doing. but again, I bet LE knows.
It's just another open question.

LE verified his time when he was running his errands. But if he says he was sitting alone at home or searching around his home area, I doubt they can verify that.

 

[OneLove]

Yeah. Exactly. That's the point. <modsnip>. Probably just to appease MR. If there was a true concern, there would have been more actions taken.

And I do think it possible that MR only made this claim to cover for his own action of having withdrawn the boys from school without the other parent's consent. I wish we could hear Elaine's perspective on this incident. I could see MR threatening to take the kids. And I can see Elaine shrugging and walking away from contesting the PO due to <modsnip> and possibly alcohol problems. IMO

It's not uncommon for angry drunk people to accuse others of what is actually their own behavior. I'm all too familiar with that. Wish I wasn't.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I wished LE would have taken MR to the ER for a blood alcohol level the minute he reported his son disappeared. I'll bet it wouldn't have been zero and MR hadn't drank for hours.

Like I've said before, unless he's lost his CDL already, I'd be super shocked if he ever drank and drive. There is zero tolerance with a CDL, and even the biggest drunks protect their only decent source of income by staying home to get shnockered. Losing your CDL is basically in par with losing your college degree- you lost the ability to make money in the field you know, where all your experience is.

 

[katydid23]

IIRC he said he "searched for Dylan in the area", then went to check the friend's home in Vallecito, then the other friend's house in Bayfield. Not sure if that was confirmed.

It seems odd, because he didn't go to the friends house in Vallecito until after 4 pm. I think I would have gone there first thing. But I definitely would not have waited for 5 hours to drive a couple of miles to check if he had heard from him or not.

His story is that he went and looked around the area, so does that mean he went to the lake and dam area and searched?

I find it really odd that he didn't just go check out the friends first thing, as that was the most probable destination. Why spend 5 hours looking around the area when he had already told his dad where he wanted to go that day?

 

[gngr~snap]

okay, thanks. that makes sense. it also speaks volumes if that's the case.

I tend to agree with some posters opinions.

In a nut shell he is saying his brother is missing and he doesn't know his own father well enough to know if he could be involved or not...
That is how I see it.

I'm not blaming the dad. I don't know him either.
Moo

 

[LaMer]

Wow. What a mess!

WHERE IS DYLAN??? lease:

I keep going back to the begining and the 'fishing'!

What is true and not true, or a Red Herring if you will!

A bit of some info, not sure if all correct or TRUE or needs revisions. For me this seems to have been where it all started due to comments made by MR.


Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

"I question why it has taken this long to start scouring the lake because from Day One they have known it is likely he had a fishing pole with him," Redwine, 52, said.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22063185/sunday-search-launched-missing-boy-laplata-county

At some point he looked around and found Dylan's fishing pole missing. It's never been said when or why he noticed.

He tried sending texts to Dylan several times after returning home, but received no responses. Would be confirmed by phone records and Mark's phone. http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/...ts-wait-wonder





Then I had read, posted: 11/26

Kevin Torres just said on 9 news that Dylan's fishing pole was found at the dam of the lake?

I also seem to remember, but not real sure, that the fishing pole found, had not been Dylans, is that right?

Then:

11:30 Mark returned home and found a cereal bowl by the sink, blankets and a few pieces of clothing on the couch, the tv on Nickelodeon, and Dylan gone. http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/...ts-wait-wonder

At some point he looked around and found Dylan's fishing pole missing. It's never been said when or why he noticed.


Forgive me but I have been hung up on this 'fishing pole'/fishing comment by MR.

I think I remember reading but cannot find proof right now MR had bought Dylan a 'new' fishing pole. Anyone know? Thot I had read a new one, but cannot find verification. How prevalent is fishing in that area this time of year. Where I live and not as north as there, but while we were out and about this past weekend, nary a fisher person had been about. Too cold! Also Dylan didn't bring a coat as I remember, right?

Also when reading an article about their plans/Dylan visiting his friends for the week with the holiday, nary a mention of fishing. I remember reading a stream or so nearby MR's home tho.

Something fishy about this fishing to me, JMO!

 

[jjenny]

Presumably, since Dylan didn't have a ride, MR could have thought he went to visit his Vallecito friend, or was around the house area somewhere. The Vallecito Reservoir is on the way to Bayfield, so presumably MR could have stopped there on his way to Bayfield (although as far as I can tell he never claimed he stopped there).

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I am not assuming she never did anything wrong. I am just responding to someones post who said that the judge ordered her not to drive with her kids for two years. I was just correcting that statement, because that was not what the judge ordered. That's all.

I am sure she made a lot of mistakes. But I see her life as heading in an upward trajectory in the past few years. But MR, not so much. JMO

Thanks again for that!!

Question, other than Dylan going missing on his watch, what is your reasoning for thinking MR was not moving upward? Has he had any trouble with anyone? Losing jobs? DUI? Become a deadbeat dad? New complaints from ER to the court about him?

And other than Dylan not being in her care, what is your reasoning for thinking ER was heading upward? I've watched women (and men!) go in and out of unhealthy relationships most of my life. Remarrying an ex is rarely a sign that you're breaking out of old habits.

NOTE: I don't have an opinion on who was stagnant and who was getting out of that lifestyle. I've actually assumed I don't have enough information to know. I'm actually asking to learn if there are actual details I've missed, or if it's just a gut feeling you're basing that on. So, not a condescending question at all and I hope it doesn't sound that way.

 

[OneLove]

Like I've said before, unless he's lost his CDL already, I'd be super shocked if he ever drank and drive. There is zero tolerance with a CDL, and even the biggest drunks protect their only decent source of income by staying home to get shnockered. Losing your CDL is basically in par with losing your college degree- you lost the ability to make money in the field you know, where all your experience is.

I am glad you know CDL holders that fear losing their licenses enough to not drink and drive. But in my own experience, it is very common. And I'll tell you something my husband and I have seen way too many times driving our RV late at night: CDL drivers who buy beer at their last gas stop of the evening and drink it during their last miles of the day. They tell us it makes them sleepy enough to be able to fall asleep when they do stop for the night down the road. .

And uhm yeah, we'd report that if it were not so common, accepted everywhere we've seen it, and we truly fear those on the road knowing who turned them in. It's a tight community among the commercial drivers on the road.

 

[momrids6]

Yeah. Exactly. That's the point. <modsnip>. Probably just to appease MR. If there was a true concern, there would have been more actions taken.

Certain actions in CO. are not public record. We are not able to see if other actions were taken in particular situations concerning minors, parental plans, etc.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

It seems odd, because he didn't go to the friends house in Vallecito until after 4 pm. I think I would have gone there first thing. But I definitely would not have waited for 5 hours to drive a couple of miles to check if he had heard from him or not.

His story is that he went and looked around the area, so does that mean he went to the lake and dam area and searched?

I find it really odd that he didn't just go check out the friends first thing, as that was the most probable destination. Why spend 5 hours looking around the area when he had already told his dad where he wanted to go that day?

I don't know the area- might he have been looking in places he thought the whole gang of boys may have ended up? Because that's what I'd do with my daughter if she didn't answer her phone. If he noticed the pole missing (there it is again, lol) he may have assumed they came to pick him up and head out to the water to fish.
I don't know- but it could have had a logical flow in his head at the time. It's not automatically hinky to me that his flow of thoughts don't match what seems obvious to me from so far away.