CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[Seajay]

Wow all, I just power skimmed over this entire thread for the past 30 minutes and now I'm dizzy. For a few minutes there I thought I was reading posts from days ago, if you get my drift. Glad to see some humor though, things were getting very heated in here before. So where is Dylan?! Come on LE give us a press conference!

BBM: I know, twice today I left the computer for awhile, came back to read some more and had to check the thread number and page number to make sure I didn't pull up the wrong thread and page.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I am glad you know CDL holders that fear losing their licenses enough to not drink and drive. But in my own experience, it is very common. And I'll tell you something my husband and I have seen way too many times driving our RV late at night: CDL drivers who buy beer at their last gas stop of the evening and drink it during their last miles of the day. They tell us it makes them sleepy enough to be able to fall asleep when they do stop for the night down the road. .

And uhm yeah, we'd report that if it were not so common, accepted everywhere we've seen it, and we truly fear those on the road knowing who turned them in. It's a tight community among the commercial drivers on the road.

I know a LOT of CDL drivers. I have never met one who is willing to risk their livelyhood. But then they aren't young guys either, they are older guys who've made a career out of it- they know that it's this or walmart cashier. They protect their best access to making good money IME.

 

[jjenny]

BBM: I know, twice today I left the computer for awhile, came back to read some more and had to check the thread number and page number to make sure I didn't pull up the wrong thread and page.

We hardly have any new information.
And no news.

 

[OneLove]

It seems odd, because he didn't go to the friends house in Vallecito until after 4 pm. I think I would have gone there first thing. But I definitely would not have waited for 5 hours to drive a couple of miles to check if he had heard from him or not.

His story is that he went and looked around the area, so does that mean he went to the lake and dam area and searched?

I find it really odd that he didn't just go check out the friends first thing, as that was the most probable destination. Why spend 5 hours looking around the area when he had already told his dad where he wanted to go that day?

True! And since he didn't begin to look until after 4:00 and chose to drive the distances instead of phone, it was dark by the time LE was informed. Did he think they would not search for Dylan that night? And why did he not get out and help with the early searching? That is sooooo intriguing. I can understand it MAYBE days later when it's looking pretty dire, but wouldn't that first day AT LEAST have been all about finding Dylan? At least to a parent frantic to find him.

 

[LotusPawprint]

From Find Dylan facebook:

Today a $5000 reward was posted in hopes that money talks.....

http://www.facebook.com/#!/FindMissingDylanRedwine


If that's what it takes, let's shout it from the mountain tops



prayers for Dylan

 

[momrids6]

It seems odd, because he didn't go to the friends house in Vallecito until after 4 pm. I think I would have gone there first thing. But I definitely would not have waited for 5 hours to drive a couple of miles to check if he had heard from him or not.

His story is that he went and looked around the area, so does that mean he went to the lake and dam area and searched?

I find it really odd that he didn't just go check out the friends first thing, as that was the most probable destination. Why spend 5 hours looking around the area when he had already told his dad where he wanted to go that day?

Didn't he go to friend's in Bayfield around 4?

 

[T4Tide]

Where are you, Dylan?

 

[mrsu]

At the risk of posting without a link, as far as I can deduct via FB sleuthing...

Mark Redwine and first wife had 2 boys - initials MAR and then Nick Redwine (who has been mentioned in MSM)

Mike Hall and first wife had 2 kids - a boy and girl <modsnip>

Mark Redwine and Elaine had 2 boys - Cory and Dylan

Hope this info is okay to post. All can be found by linking to Dylan's FB page and each other.

Clear as mud, right?

 

[PaulR]

At the risk of posting without a link, as far as I can deduct via FB sleuthing...

Mark Redwine and first wife had 2 boys - initials MAR and then Nick Redwine (who has been mentioned in MSM)

<modsnip>

Mark Redwine and Elaine had 2 boys - Cory and Dylan

Hope this info is okay to post. All can be found by linking to Dylan's FB page and each other.

Clear as mud, right?

Anyone else feel like humming the "Brady Bunch" theme song?

 

[jjenny]

Anyone else feel like humming the "Brady Bunch" theme song?

No, this doesn't remind me of a Brady bunch.
:floorlaugh:

 

[Seajay]

And I do think it possible that MR only made this claim to cover for his own action of having withdrawn the boys from school without the other parent's consent. I wish we could hear Elaine's perspective on this incident. I could see MR threatening to take the kids. And I can see Elaine shrugging and walking away from contesting the PO due to his temper and possibly alcohol problems. IMO

It's not uncommon for angry drunk people to accuse others of what is actually their own behavior. I'm all too familiar with that. Wish I wasn't.

Wouldn't ER have had to make some claim first in her report that he had taken the kids without her permission for it to make sense that he made this up to cover for it by saying she was drinking then driving with the kids in the car???

And a judge wouldn't order 2 years of no drinking then driving with kids in the car just on his word alone. Why would he order such a thing just based on that??? There had to be somthing more to that.

 

[OneLove]

Thanks again for that!!

Question, other than Dylan going missing on his watch, what is your reasoning for thinking MR was not moving upward? Has he had any trouble with anyone? Losing jobs? DUI? Become a deadbeat dad? New complaints from ER to the court about him?

And other than Dylan not being in her care, what is your reasoning for thinking ER was heading upward? I've watched women (and men!) go in and out of unhealthy relationships most of my life. Remarrying an ex is rarely a sign that you're breaking out of old habits.

NOTE: I don't have an opinion on who was stagnant and who was getting out of that lifestyle. I've actually assumed I don't have enough information to know. I'm actually asking to learn if there are actual details I've missed, or if it's just a gut feeling you're basing that on. So, not a condescending question at all and I hope it doesn't sound that way.

I can tell you my thoughts on these questions:

My reason for thinking MR was not moving upward in his life is shown in his fractured relationship with his other children. He has had plenty of time to work at rebuilding relationships that tanked in earlier years. He himself said publicly that he had no support in the community and that he was waiting on his brother to arrive. His children's mother had no idea how he earns a living so it is <modsnip>.

My reasoning for believing that ER was "headed upwards" is that she provided a stable home for her two children, they both show earnest affection for her, her 21 year old chooses to continue living in her home, she maintained a KNOWN job that required considerable people skills, reliability, and responsibility, she was able to attain an even better job at a larger institution, she sees that her children have meals, attend school, and shows appropriate actions and reactions to traumatic events.

I do not regard her relationship with a first husband she has not been married to for over 20 years as being "in and out of an unhealthy relationship". A 20 year hiatus is hardly "in and out". For all we know, this is an exquisitely healthy thing for all the family members involved. It looks to me like she had a super chance to make a wonderful life for them all.

It looks to me like not everyone may have been happy about the move away from the constant "drama". How sad for them all.

 

[OneLove]

I know a LOT of CDL drivers. I have never met one who is willing to risk their livelyhood. But then they aren't young guys either, they are older guys who've made a career out of it- they know that it's this or walmart cashier. They protect their best access to making good money IME.

Just so you know, every driver we saw do this looked to be at LEAST 50 years old. Of course, that may not be their real chronological age as alcoholism has a way of aging people prematurely. Or maybe it was just on the road living for a lifetime that aged them prematurely. I really don't know. I just know what I saw.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

^^Helps me understand your perspective, thanks Katydid.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Wouldn't ER have had to make some claim first in her report that he had taken the kids without her permission for it to make sense that he made this up to cover for it by saying she was drinking then driving with the kids in the car???

And a judge wouldn't order 2 years of no drinking then driving with kids in the car just on his word alone. Why would he order such a thing just based on that??? There had to be somthing more to that.

not at all, in court affidavits people can claim whatever they like, theres no burden of proof for them to meet.

its all he says she says, some tell the truth and others mix truth and fiction to suit themselves IMO

 

[Marilynilpa]

Sorry if this has been posted already, I haven't gotten caught up yet today:

DURANGO, Colo. (AP) - Authorities say someone is trying to capitalize on a missing boy case in Durango and scam people out of money by sending messages via Facebook demanding ransom money.

KMGH-TV reports Monday that a person is falsely claiming to be a new resident of the area and is asking for $1,000 for a photo of Dylan Redwine and another $4,000 for the 13-year-old boy's release.

http://www.kgwn.tv/story/20310568/officials-warn-of-ransom-scam-in-missing-boy-case

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Just so you know, every driver we saw do this looked to be at LEAST 50 years old. Of course, that may not be their real chronological age as alcoholism has a way of aging people prematurely. Or maybe it was just on the road living for a lifetime that aged them prematurely. I really don't know. I just know what I saw.

If you visit a CDL/truck driver bulletin board (which are more common that you'd expect, they are usually looking for conversation after being alone all day) you'll get fried alive if you ask if you can drive after one beer. It's seriously hugely taboo, so I have no idea where you met your CDL drivers- but what a shame.

 

[katydid23]

Didn't he go to friend's in Bayfield around 4?

He went to the friend in Vallecito around 4, then ' became alarmed' and went to Bayfield, arriving around 4:30, IIRC.

 

[LaMer]

IIRC he said he "searched for Dylan in the area", then went to check the friend's home in Vallecito, then the other friend's house in Bayfield. Not sure if that was confirmed.

But that didn't take 5&1/2 hours. So what did he do with the rest of his time?

It seems odd, because he didn't go to the friends house in Vallecito until after 4 pm. I think I would have gone there first thing. But I definitely would not have waited for 5 hours to drive a couple of miles to check if he had heard from him or not.

His story is that he went and looked around the area, so does that mean he went to the lake and dam area and searched?

I find it really odd that he didn't just go check out the friends first thing, as that was the most probable destination. Why spend 5 hours looking around the area when he had already told his dad where he wanted to go that day?

Didn't he go to friend's in Bayfield around 4?

I thought I had read he went to Bayfield first. Why didn't he call the friends's homes to make sure Dylan had been able to get a ride??? Surely he would have had their names if not the tele #'s. If my children went anywhere I had the life histories of the families. Besides that, they would have had instructions to leave a note.

None of this makes any sense at all!

Is this the time MR stated he noticed the fishing pole missing? It is too fishy for me!

 

[jennapuppy]

Just so you know, every driver we saw do this looked to be at LEAST 50 years old. Of course, that may not be their real chronological age as alcoholism has a way of aging people prematurely. Or maybe it was just on the road living for a lifetime that aged them prematurely. I really don't know. I just know what I saw.

I would encourage you to report this whenever you see it happening. If it's widely accepted, that's all the more reason to IMO. It's just an accident waiting to happen.
moo