CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #14

[cluciano63]

Agreed and a little hope is better than none at all. I want him found alive so badly. I'm ready to throw Shef's alien abduction back into the mix just to improve the odds a little. Any Big Foot or mermaid sightings in that area?


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I always have mixed feelings, I admit, about wishing a child is alive if they are being tortured, sexually assaulted, etc. all the time. Not every child could recover from something like that to live a "normal" life. Also, there is no guarantee they will ever be rescued. It is a horrible thought in any case.

Dylan's backpack and phone being gone along with him still makes me think it is possible he was taking some short cut and got lost, injured, etc. Not sure how that can be ruled out 100%.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Most of his accounts were from earlier. They may be just watching the most recent one.


Could you post a link to that? I don't remember reading it. TIA

there have been numerous articles stating that theres been no activity on Dylans phone since the sunday night. the other part of my comment was to do with a facebook comment made by someone very involved in finding Dylan.

 

[vasportsmom]

I always have mixed feelings, I admit, about wishing a child is alive if they are being tortured, sexually assaulted, etc. all the time. Not every child could recover from something like that to live a "normal" life. Also, there is no guarantee they will ever be rescued. It is a horrible thought in any case.

Dylan's backpack and phone being gone along with him still makes me think it is possible he was taking some short cut and got lost, injured, etc. Not sure how that can be ruled out 100%.

I feel the same way about a SO being involved. Somethings are almost worse than death and I can't make myself wish that for a child even if it is the only hope of them being alive.

In the beginning my hope/fear was that he had gotten lost and/or injured. I don't understand how that has been 100% ruled out unless his last phone pings were somewhere that he simply couldn't have ended up on his own.


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[NC Analyzer]

I don't really know what's going on in the heads of other people, but I personally prefer to err on the side of caution. If I consider all other possibilities (that I can think of or I read) and a family member ends up being guilty, nothing is lost because I'm not responsible for proving it, arresting the person, prosecuting him or anything else.

On the other hand, if I decide a parent is guilty and just spend my time finding ways it could have been done by that person, or where proof that the person did it could be found, and the person is innocent, I've added to the burden of a grieving parent, and possibly helped to permanently ruin his/her reputation by things I may have dug up and posted about him/her. I'll choose the first option every time. Not everybody will, and that's their choice, but I think I deserve as much time and bandwidth for my theories as anybody else does. MOO

See, that's the problem. Most any, every, other, possible scenario has been discussed, analyzed and put under the microscope. It isn't that anyone disputes how it could have been done outside the home; Its about the missing info (no cell activity, no communication after 8 pm Sunday) that becomes the focus.
It isn't about what is there...it's about what isn't there.

 

[mck16]

No activity on DR's phone after 8:00 Sunday night, he just disappeared from his Dad's home Monday morning, no one has heard from him since. Dad ran errands.

These are all issues that I would think LE has investigated and apparently are satisfied with their findings. As it stands right now that is all we have and until and if they report anything different I have to be satisfied with that. I trust LE and if there was anything that pointed to MR I would think he would be in custody. And maybe tomorrow he will be and that will be fine because at least we will have some sort of resolution to this horrible situation. jmo

 

[katydid23]

See, that's the problem. Most any, every, other, possible scenario has been discussed, analyzed and put under the microscope. It isn't that anyone disputes how it could have been done outside the home; Its about the missing info (no cell activity, no communication after 8 pm Sunday) that becomes the focus.
It isn't about what is there...it's about what isn't there.

WEll said.

I am well aware of the sick, roving transient perps who were posing a danger to Dylan that day. But it is hard for me to come up with a scenario that ignores the other weird things about Sunday night and Monday morning.

 

[cluciano63]

No activity on DR's phone after 8:00 Sunday night, he just disappeared from his Dad's home Monday morning, no one has heard from him since. Dad ran errands.

These are all issues that I would think LE has investigated and apparently are satisfied with their findings. As it stands right now that is all we have and until and if they report anything different I have to be satisfied with that. I trust LE and if there was anything that pointed to MR I would think he would be in custody. And maybe tomorrow he will be and that will be fine because at least we will have some sort of resolution to this horrible situation. jmo

It is not really true that if there was anything that pointed to Dad, that he would be in custody. There has to be actual evidence. They may have suspicions and even inconsistencies, a la LE in Ayla's case, but they can't arrest anyone for that. So I am not affected either way by no arrest being made. JMO

 

[azgrandma]

I would certainly hope that if Dylan were injured by wondering off then someone would've found him during any of the searches they've had. But, it's pretty rough terrain and it is possible that he was missed. Searchers only go so far and there's no telling if just a few more steps would make a difference.

It's my hope, beyond everything, that Dylan is safe and alive somewhere. I just don't see that being the case though

 

[jjenny]

No activity on DR's phone after 8:00 Sunday night, he just disappeared from his Dad's home Monday morning, no one has heard from him since. Dad ran errands.

These are all issues that I would think LE has investigated and apparently are satisfied with their findings. As it stands right now that is all we have and until and if they report anything different I have to be satisfied with that. I trust LE and if there was anything that pointed to MR I would think he would be in custody. And maybe tomorrow he will be and that will be fine because at least we will have some sort of resolution to this horrible situation. jmo

LE needs to have evidence before making an arrest.
In case of missing person, that usually includes finding said person (whether dead or alive).

 

[vasportsmom]

It is not really true that if there was anything that pointed to Dad, that he would be in custody. There has to be actual evidence. They may have suspicions and even inconsistencies, a la LE in Ayla's case, but they can't arrest anyone for that. So I am not affected either way by no arrest being made. JMO

I think there has been a change in how and when LE makes an arrest since CA walked free. It seems that they are waiting longer and proceeding much more privately than before.


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[mck16]

It is not really true that if there was anything that pointed to Dad, that he would be in custody. There has to be actual evidence. They may have suspicions and even inconsistencies, a la LE in Ayla's case, but they can't arrest anyone for that. So I am not affected either way by no arrest being made. JMO

I think that was my point. There has been no actual evidence all though they have forensically searched his house and vehicles. Done an indepth interview. Reviewed their trip home and checked out his 'errands'. I am just waiting for some news. Either clear someone or charge someone. What is going on? If there is no arrest then it becomes a cold case? Just very frustrating with no news or even hints at anything new. jmo

 

[aust amateur slueth]

No activity on DR's phone after 8:00 Sunday night, he just disappeared from his Dad's home Monday morning, no one has heard from him since. Dad ran errands.

These are all issues that I would think LE has investigated and apparently are satisfied with their findings. As it stands right now that is all we have and until and if they report anything different I have to be satisfied with that. I trust LE and if there was anything that pointed to MR I would think he would be in custody. And maybe tomorrow he will be and that will be fine because at least we will have some sort of resolution to this horrible situation. jmo

I respectfully disagree about LE being apparantly being satisfied with their findings, if they were they wouldn't have taken out a warrant to search MRs house and they wouldn't have removed both vehicles for forensic testing.

IMO LE will wait to arrest to ensure that they have enough to go to trial with, there is circumstantial evidence, there are amazing coincidences if he is not involved.

but you know whats most important, thats Dylan finding him and someone knows something.


we had a case here where everyone suspected the involvement of the mother and stepfather but police didn't charge them until ages after little keisha disappeared, when they finally did charge them it was because on keisha's birthday they got flowers and went to her grave, they stuffed up and police were waiting to catch them. They are now awaiting trial

 

[mck16]

LE needs to have evidence before making an arrest.
In case of missing person, that usually includes finding said person (whether dead or alive).

That is what I said. Is there no evidence? jmo

 

[mck16]

I respectfully disagree about LE being apparantly being satisfied with their findings, if they were they wouldn't have taken out a warrant to search MRs house and they wouldn't have removed both vehicles for forensic testing.

IMO LE will wait to arrest to ensure that they have enough to go to trial with, there is circumstantial evidence, there are amazing coincidences if he is not involved.

but you know whats most important, thats Dylan finding him and someone knows something.

I was asking a question. The search was over two weeks ago. What is the hold up. Sorry, I guess I am just used to a big city crime lab and LE. jmo

 

[katydid23]

That is what I said. Is there no evidence? jmo

I don't think they have any real evidence, just hunches, imo. I am afraid this case is going to be like Ayla, Celina, Baby Lisa, Hailey, Haleigh, Kyron, Maura, Isabel, Holly, Sky, ....fill in the blanks....:cry:

 

[scorekeeper]

Dylan was to meet up with his friends at 6:30 am on Monday morning.
That would mean they probably should have left the Vallecito home around 6:00 am.
I wonder if any of his friends tried to call/text Daylan between 6:30 am and 7:30 am and ask, "hey where are you; you on your way??, etc"
I don't understand why dad wouldn't have told/asked Dylan to call/text his friends about his change in plans (again)....I mean they should have been waiting on him.

This is another part of the puzzle that bugs me.

 

[jjenny]

I was asking a question. The search was over two weeks ago. What is the hold up. Sorry, I guess I am just used to a big city crime lab and LE. jmo

Have you not followed many other missing persons cases?
There is not much evidence in a lot of these cases.
And so they go cold. LE can't just arrest someone on suspicion alone (even if they do have strong suspicion).

 

[jennapuppy]

there have been numerous articles stating that theres been no activity on Dylans phone since the sunday night. the other part of my comment was to do with a facebook comment made by someone very involved in finding Dylan.

Can you tell me how this person came to know that the phone was suddenly cut off, as though it had been snatched out of his hands? Is this person somehow connected with LE?

 

[mck16]

I don't think they have any real evidence, just hunches, imo. I am afraid this case is going to be like Ayla, Celina, Baby Lisa, Hailey, Haleigh, Kyron, Maura,
Holly, Sky, ....fill in the blanks....:cry:

Sorry, but I have raised 3 sons and have 4 grandsons. Dylan is precious and this just breaks my heart. I see that same smile everyday when I am with my two grandsons. It is just not right. Way too close to home. Sorry for the emotion. jmo

 

[SCHMAE]

Just had a thought while reading the posts about the bigger crime lab being in Denver, thus the reason it's taking so long to process stuff. That makes sense, but doesn't it mean something that it's taking so long? I mean several posters have said and I've even noticed myself that sometimes it takes weeks or months to get results back. But isn't that more the case when processing a homicide? Someone has died and they take a while to do the results because they have a backlog. But when a child is MISSING, they cannot use their discretion to ' hurry up ' a test seeing how the results might help find the child? My point I guess is does the amount of time it's taking to get any results back basically point to a no longer missing Dylan ? I hate to think that but I just did. Seems if LE believed he was missing somewhere URGENCY would dictate that the test be run before ANY other tests the lab is doing. Thoughts?
( i do understand taht le may already have the test results and not released them )