CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #16

[asyousay]

Yes, I have to agree, I think LE is way in over the top of there heads in this case, they haven't had a child go missing is so long(or at all)...leading the investagation in the wrong directions, and letting good evidence to go the way side, because they haven't done this type of thing before. They

As far as the poly I know why they don't want them to talk about it, but to be honest the dang thing won't hold up in court so the stupid test doesn't matter either way. So to tell them not to talk about it is just down right silly. I do however have a feeling that there attorney said not to talk about it.

I agree. MR could be totally innocent but it does not stop the fact he was the last one to see Dylan so the house is the first place to look IMO , even if you do not find anything you start there. So why wait a whole week ?.

LE baffle me in this case. I just pray they are working on something behind close doors and are not completely stumped ( which is my fear) .

 

[Seajay]

Mark Redwine is the last person to see Dylan WHO HAS ADMITTED IT. If he was abducted, then someone else saw him last. IMO

 

[Donjeta]

Do you mean like asking questions during a polygraph that leaves the person when later asked what they were asked about saying, "Just stuff you know that sees if I'd be a good candidate for a polygraph"? That must take some rather subtle questions. I think it might hurt a lot of cases if people were to tell what questions they were asked, rather than just the results. :moo:

I'm not sure I understand your question...

I was talking about things that come out during any interviews, not necessarily polygraphs, claims that person A makes, and LE asking person B questions looking to confirm the information or rule it out. They might sometimes have to reveal or hint at what person A said in order to get person B to confirm or deny it.

It is my understanding that polygraph questions are usually rather generic, things like, do you know where the missing person is? did you have something to do with his disappearance? Did you kill the missing person? I don't think revealing those questions in public would usually affect the investigation one way or another because they tend to be rather similar and predictable from case to case. Revealing the results might sometimes make a difference.

There is a polygraph technique that attempts to find out if the suspect reacts differently to questions that only the guilty person and LE know the answers to (things like, was the murdered person killed with a knife? A gun?) but I don't think it would be applicable to Dylan's case as it is not known to LE what happened to him.

 

[cluciano63]

As far as I know, polygraph questions are always ones that are to be answered either "yes" or "no". Sometimes they allow you to explain further, at least they did when I took one, but I think they had me wait until the equipment was removed.

 

[asyousay]

Mark Redwine is the last person to see Dylan WHO HAS ADMITTED IT. If he was abducted, then someone else saw him last. IMO

Mark is the last confirmed sighting so you work from that IMO

There is no proof of a abduction and LE have not come out and said they think Dylan was abducted which is strange if they believe this as they would be warning the public , one would of thought .


IMO

 

[Seajay]

Mark is the last confirmed sighting so you work from that IMO

There is no proof of a abduction and LE have not come out and said they think Dylan was abducted which is strange if they believe this as they would be warning the public , one would of thought .


IMO

Did LE take abduction off the table today??? I haven't been around much today and I sort of did a speed reading through the threads today, so if LE took abduction off the table then this is the first I've heard of it. Do you have a link to anything relating to that? TIA.

 

[asyousay]

Did LE take abduction off the table today??? I haven't been around much today and I sort of did a speed reading through the threads today, so if LE took abduction off the table then this is the first I've heard of it. Do you have a link to anything relating to that? TIA.

I'm confused now . Where has it been stated by LE that he was abducted ?

I was not aware they had come out and said that was a possibility !


Also I am new here so what does " TIA" mean ?

 

[nikb]

Sorry for not quoting the original. I saw the question earlier but got absorbed in the Elizabeth Collins thread/ceremony and can't seem to find the original post again. I'm sure it's here, I'm just missing it.

Anyway the question was if MR had a FB account, and I wanted to mention I've searched pretty extensively and I don't think so. There IS a page for someone with that name - several accounts with that name actually - but I did find one where a bunch of the friends had Dylan's missing poster as their current profile pic. Definitely not "the" MR we're talking about but I assume somehow related. Maybe the speculated son? (adult, not a minor)

 

[carole]

I'm confused now . Where has it been stated by LE that he was abducted ?

I was not aware they had come out and said that was a possibility !


Also I am new here so what does " TIA" mean ?

Thanks in advance.

 

[FruitTingles]

 

[JustCryssy]

Maybe it's just me, but the missing poster pics do not look much like other snap shots of Dylan.

This one is his brother's public facebook profile pic.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

But are they? I have not seen any very recent media appearances by either parent, that I can recall. I am sure that the local media would be more than accommodating and put them on the air or in the paper anytime, as this case seems to have grabbed the attention of the entire region.

I would be very interested to know if the media has turned down any requests from family for airtime or print, not just in this case, but many others too. I feel that I would be determined to keep my face in the news, and my mouth moving, all the time. Not a criticism, just a genuine curiosity on my part, as we often do not see much of the family after the initial days or a week or so and yet it is the one thing advised by most experts, including LE.

...back to my movie now (Gosford Park, one of my favorites, lol.)

I think it is very difficult for parents to get on national media outlets when nothing is happening in the case. I think that even with new developments, it can be a challenge if the case isn’t that recent. There is just so much news happening every day, that giving airtime to parents is probably not plausible.

It might be weird to think of it this way, but with celebrities, they only do interviews when they have something to promote. It’s only the super-famous ones (think Angelina) who can get on TV just to talk about anything. If Bob who stars on show X cannot get on TV whenever he wants, despite having major PR people and working for the same studio that own national media outlets, how would an ordinary family get on TV with just a phone call? See what I’m saying?

 

[tamild]

I'm confused now . Where has it been stated by LE that he was abducted ?

I was not aware they had come out and said that was a possibility !


Also I am new here so what does " TIA" mean ?

BBM:

Investigators in the Dylan Redwine disappearance said Wednesday they have determined the 13-year-old did not run away.

"Just given the length of time (he's been gone), we're looking at other possibilities," said Durango Police Lt. Ray Shupe. "Everything from abduction to homicide."

http://www.krdo.com/news/Investigators-say-they-ve-determined-Dylan-Redwine-didn-t-run-away/-/417220/17581046/-/xik41jz/-/index.html

TIA=thanks in advance

 

[Allusonz]

Ok. However that does not negate the fact that he texted her about their missing child, and THEN she said "we need to contact the sheriff's office"

They could not have taken the cell before the child was reported missing, right?

It is my understanding that both ER and MR have stated that MR did contact ER to ask if she knew where Dylan was.

ER was then upset as MR would not return her texts/calls.

The theory I presented remains valid in that if MR's phone was kept by LE he may not of known they had tried to contact him. Whether or not LE informed MR I have no idea but doubt it was on the top of their priority list, as I would think trying to organize resources to find Dylan would of been the immediate priority.

There have been other valid theories presented by other posters as well, such as answering LE questions which from other cases parents have stated they were interviewed for long hours over multiple days.

That to me is more important. ER knew LE's phone number and could of easily contacted them for additional information. I am sure they wanted to interview her as well.

As well, often LE prefers interviewing the parties closest to the case, and will separate parents that live in the same home.

Until additional information is known from LE, we can only offer our theories which is what I did.

 

[asyousay]

Silly question but did Dylan have longer hair when he went missing ?

I can see the school photo ( I assume its a school photo as it looks like my old ones on the front page ) but in other photos he has longer hair and now I don't know which photos are more recent .

 

[SCHMAE]

It is my understanding that both ER and MR have stated that MR did contact ER to ask if she knew where Dylan was.

ER was then upset as MR would not return her texts/calls.

The theory I presented remains valid in that if MR's phone was kept by LE he may not of known they had tried to contact him. Whether or not LE informed MR I have no idea but doubt it was on the top of their priority list, as I would think trying to organize resources to find Dylan would of been the immediate priority.

There have been other valid theories presented by other posters as well, such as answering LE questions which from other cases parents have stated they were interviewed for long hours over multiple days.

That to me is more important. ER knew LE phone number and could of easily contacted them for additional information. I am sure they wanted to interview her as well.

As well, often LE prefers intervieing the parties closest to the case, and will separate parents that live in the same home.

Until additional information is known from LE, we can only offer our theories which is what I did.

I'm going to throw MR a bone here.
""It is my understanding that both ER and MR have stated that MR did contact ER to ask if she knew where Dylan was.

ER was then upset as MR would not return her texts/calls.""

So he looks and texts all day, typically male, probably thinking the kid will turn up in a bit, no big deal. Maybe Dylan has wandered off into the woods in the past and turned up later with a turtle or arrowhead or skinned knee and a big story of an adventure, so MR's not too concerned. He goes to check the friend's house, concern rising. He txts ER if she knows where Dylan is , as a course of last resort, and when she replies NO WHY? ( speculative) MR's panic button is punched loud and clear. Thus he cannot return her calls or texts because it's just really hit him, Dylan is really NOWHERE to be found. In a state of panic you really cannot think clearly to do any small task. Yes ER should have had her calls returned but it may not be malice or guilt. It may just be MR instantly went into OMGOMGOMG mode and nothing else got through.

 

[SCHMAE]

Maybe it's just me, but the missing poster pics do not look much like other snap shots of Dylan.

This one is his brother's public facebook profile pic.

That top picture looks like a MUCH younger Dylan. He's still got kinda of chubby little boy cheeks. I bet that pic is age 10 or 11.

 

[Allusonz]

Do you mean like asking questions during a polygraph that leaves the person when later asked what they were asked about saying, "Just stuff you know that sees if I'd be a good candidate for a polygraph"? That must take some rather subtle questions. I think it might hurt a lot of cases if people were to tell what questions they were asked, rather than just the results. :moo:

BBM

I have found that to be an odd response.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Listening to him at 1 minute... he seems to be forgiving his ex-wife for the statements she made against him, and making excuses as to why she would have done it.

He sounds like a very reasonable minded man and understands why Elaine lashed out. He understands that she is a worried mother and he also understands why she would lash out at him since he was the last one to see Dylan and was in his home when he disappeared.

The more I listen to MR the more I doubt he is involved in Dylan's disappearance at all.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'm going to throw MR a bone here.
""It is my understanding that both ER and MR have stated that MR did contact ER to ask if she knew where Dylan was.

ER was then upset as MR would not return her texts/calls.""

So he looks and texts all day, typically male, probably thinking the kid will turn up in a bit, no big deal. Maybe Dylan has wandered off into the woods in the past and turned up later with a turtle or arrowhead or skinned knee and a big story of an adventure, so MR's not too concerned. He goes to check the friend's house, concern rising. He txts ER if she knows where Dylan is , as a course of last resort, and when she replies NO WHY? ( speculative) MR's panic button is punched loud and clear. Thus he cannot return her calls or texts because it's just really hit him, Dylan is really NOWHERE to be found. In a state of panic you really cannot think clearly to do any small task. Yes ER should have had her calls returned but it may not be malice or guilt. It may just be MR instantly went into OMGOMGOMG mode and nothing else got through.

By the time he text her he also could have been heading to the police department to file a missing person's report and would have been extremely busy with them giving them info and going back to his home with them so they could start searching for Dylan.

imo