CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #18

[scorekeeper]

I understand your point Katy believe me. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate.
There is a point of the ultimate EFF YOU , I agree.
But there are also those who will do anything to get the x back and
having DR was the only thing he had that could ever potentially turn into
a 'makeup' if you will. Now if DR is never found, MR would have no reason
to ever contact ER again. See what I mean? So if he's been pining for her
all this time and hoping they might get together again one day and he did
something to DR , then he just completely screwed himself, in loads of ways
but do you see what I mean ?

If MR did disappear Dylan, I don't think he realized what the outcome would be regarding ER. I don't think he thought that far ahead. If he was under the influence or angry, he wasn't possibly thinking clearly. I don't think he thought the last month would turn out like it has (not coming together with ER, having dinner or whatever crazy-like things he has said about family).

Now with ER and CR gone back to their home in the Springs, what does he have left.....his job?

He has pretty much loss everything and everyone. If he does have an alcohol problem, things are gonna' get much worse for him not better. It's already been said he has lost a lot of weigh. So, what's really eating at him?

Did he blackout Sunday night, is that why there is such a gap in his story?

 

[Kamille]

I don't remember actually reading this in an article, but I know the idea was floated around here quite a bit a few threads back. I don't believe it has ever been confirmed why he was there at all, so it's still entirely possible that he was there for a scheduled appointment with his divorce attorney.

JMO

The LE official on NG who stated that it was confirmed that MR was where he said he was on Monday said that he had a "couple of meetings". I assume one was with his attorney. MR told Dylan he "had to go" that morning apparently. Whether that is true or not, it seems that MR had to be in Durango at a specified time that morning. Most likely 9am.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

Oh, I think one of the ONLY things we can be certain of, IF he has an attorney now, is that he will NOT be taking a second poly. JMO

I'd sure like to know about the first one and whether a second one was requested. If he refused, and refused to co-operate with LE after the first one I'm sure we would have heard about that. If he did take a second and it was also inconclusive...where do they go from there?

MOO

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I believe in the Jessica Ridgeway case her father (lived in another state) was questioned or LE checked out his story. Once his whereabouts were verified then he was cleared.

But no one, near or far, have been cleared in Dylan's disappearance.

IIRC wasn't there a custody hearing the day of Jessica's disappearance and thats why the father was queried?

 

[Kamille]

I , too, think many things point at MR, but also cannot get past the 'missing link'. Something is not right. For him to be all the things we ' assume' that he is, how in the heck did he pull off something so perfect without a shred of evidence anywhere? If he did that , he missed his calling and should not be driving trucks. He just seems a blue collar regular joe and not a mastermind.
I thought the very same thing in lisa irwin case. So many things about her mom seemed suspicious, but I do not think that woman could be a hidden mastermind and pull off a crime and not leave a giant trail.

I'm sure there is a "giant trail of evidence" at every spontaneous crime scene. Problem is that LE don't always figure out where that crime scene may be. Or there wasn't a whole lot of evidence because it was a premeditated crime and a perp had lots of time to "clean up" as it were.

There are likely more unsolved missing person/murder cases than solved at this point. Especially since DNA and forensics came on the scene. Used to be that crimes were solved the old fashioned way with good old circumstantial evidence and a lot of common sense. But they weren't perfect and a lot of people were wrongly convicted because of it. The standard of evidence has evolved and therefore a lot more cases are being shelved even if LE are pretty sure of the who done it.

MOO

 

[Bravo]

Why remove the only thing tying them together? Because it was the ultimate EFF YOU, and the ultimate 'win' if he took away from her the only thing she loved so much. JMO

ETA:

She had thought she won, by successfully moving away, remodeling a new home, planning to marry her first ex-husband, making their sons happy in their new life....,maybe he couldn't stand it anymore.

I agree. Elaine had moved on. There was nothing left to "use" other than Dylan. I wonder if the Courts were garnishing any of his wages for support? Always seems men who are not "good men" always find another woman to hook up with and the cycle begins again. Sadly. MOO

 

[scorekeeper]

IIRC wasn't there a custody hearing the day of Jessica's disappearance and thats why the father was queried?

Yes, I do believe there was to be a hearing (I'm not sure it was to be a custody hearing) possibly regarding child support.

 

[Kamille]

Just wanted to add that if MR was meeting with his attorney, is it possible he was working on a Christmas visit? Getting Dylan sometime during that holiday? I'm wondering if azgrandma would be comfortable weighing in on whether MR would be the type to try to get visitation most often on known holidays that would put a real damper in the new family's celebration and mess up the child's holiday plans as well with having to travel back and forth and maybe missing out on family events with the parent that they live with. That would seem like the kind of spiteful move a disgruntled ex might pull.

Does anyone know how this visitation thing works when one parent has been awarded sole custody? Does the other one have to work through an attorney for every visitation or was there a schedule made up during the November hearing to cover maybe the next year or so?

The other thing I wondered was that ER didn't seem to know where he was working. Perhaps there was some kind of motion for him to provide employment info for child support payment information. So perhaps he went to his place of business first to get paperwork to take to his attorney.

MOO

 

[MrsPC]

I'd sure like to know about the first one and whether a second one was requested. If he refused, and refused to co-operate with LE after the first one I'm sure we would have heard about that. If he did take a second and it was also inconclusive...where do they go from there?

MOO

MR hired a criminal defense attorney just 1 or 2 days after a full search of his home was made, and his vehicles were impounded.

I sincerely doubt he's been cooperating with police since hiring that atty.

 

[scorekeeper]

I agree. Elaine had moved on. There was nothing left to "use" other than Dylan. I wonder if the Courts were garnishing any of his wages for support? Always seems men who are not "good men" always find another woman to hook up with and the cycle begins again. Sadly. MOO

Well, if LE is not going to warn the public about an alleged abductor in the area; I hope every woman within a 100 mile radius of Bayfield is personally aware of MR and his background.

Can't you see some woman buying his "poor, poor pitiful" me story? :banghead:

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Speculating here on motive because what else have we got? Took a look at the long court history in AZ as AZgrandma suggested, paired that with the long court history in CO (not publicly available but anecdotally noted) and wondered just what MR will do if there are no ex wives to take to court anymore.

Seriously- this either gives me the first glimmer of doubt of his involvement or, as I more closely suspect, now that ER has left Bayfield, MR might start yapping again trying to get her goat. Give 'em enough rope and he'll hang himself, particularly during the enormously stressful holidays next week.

no court is a win for MR financially, if he was involved in Dylans disappearance then IMO the motive is to hurt ER, it costs him nothing but its a lifetime of pain for ER in particular and CR and his other sons.

 

[Kamille]

MR hired a criminal defense attorney just 1 or 2 days after a full search of his home was made, and his vehicles were impounded.

I sincerely doubt he's been cooperating with police since hiring that atty.

I thought I read that he had "consulted" with one but I'm not sure if he actually put down a retainer and hired one. LE are also still indicating that he is still co-operating since that search so I don't think he's refused to speak with them since then.

MOO

 

[Bravo]

I wonder if azgrandma would mind another question? My question being did Mark seem to "move on" leave you alone once the agreement was made of no support and he relinquished his parental rights? Just a statement here but if he was dragging Elaine thru the Courts I wonder if she was demanding child support. He in turn then wants visits. Too late for her to turn back now. It's in the Courts. Some thoughts I'm wondering about.

 

[Bravo]

Well, if LE is not going to warn the public about an alleged abductor in the area; I hope every woman within a 100 mile radius of Bayfield is personally aware of MR and his background.

Can't you see some woman buying his "poor, poor pitiful" me story? :banghead:

Yes as sad as that is. Run women run!!!!!

 

[scorekeeper]

I thought I read that he had "consulted" with one but I'm not sure if he actually put down a retainer and hired one. LE are also still indicating that he is still co-operating since that search so I don't think he's refused to speak with them since then.

MOO

But it seems that LE isn't so willing or in a hurry to talk to him....


Another source of frustration is with the Dylan Redwine Taskforce of law-enforcement agencies, he said. He said in the last day or two he has been trying to contact the task force for updates but has received no response.


Mark Redwine's usual contact with the task force is Lead Investigator Dan Patterson of the La Plata County Sheriff's Office. He said he saw Patterson Friday, but has not heard from him since.

One of the hardest parts is the type of information he does get.


Mark Redwine said he was told there's an area of Vallecito Reservoir that's “of interest” to law enforcement. This follows a search by New Mexico state dive crews Nov. 25 near the Vallecito dam. At that time, nothing was found.

http://durangoherald.com/article/201...h-adverse-time

 

[Bravo]

But it seems that LE isn't so willing or in a hurry to talk to him....


Another source of frustration is with the Dylan Redwine Taskforce of law-enforcement agencies, he said. He said in the last day or two he has been trying to contact the task force for updates but has received no response.


Mark Redwine's usual contact with the task force is Lead Investigator Dan Patterson of the La Plata County Sheriff's Office. He said he saw Patterson Friday, but has not heard from him since.

One of the hardest parts is the type of information he does get.


Mark Redwine said he was told there's an area of Vallecito Reservoir that's “of interest” to law enforcement. This follows a search by New Mexico state dive crews Nov. 25 near the Vallecito dam. At that time, nothing was found.

http://durangoherald.com/article/201...h-adverse-time

Thanks for reminding me of that. I did sit up when i read that. LE not keeping the lines of communication open with a Parent of a missing child? How do they know the Parent didn't think of something important. Found something important. Learned something of importance to the case. Nope they didn't get back to him ASAP. I think i make my point.

 

[Kamille]

But it seems that LE isn't so willing or in a hurry to talk to him....


Another source of frustration is with the Dylan Redwine Taskforce of law-enforcement agencies, he said. He said in the last day or two he has been trying to contact the task force for updates but has received no response.


Mark Redwine's usual contact with the task force is Lead Investigator Dan Patterson of the La Plata County Sheriff's Office. He said he saw Patterson Friday, but has not heard from him since.

One of the hardest parts is the type of information he does get.


Mark Redwine said he was told there's an area of Vallecito Reservoir that's “of interest” to law enforcement. This follows a search by New Mexico state dive crews Nov. 25 near the Vallecito dam. At that time, nothing was found.

http://durangoherald.com/article/201...h-adverse-time

I think that investigator just took a well deserved weekend off and I'm sure he's talked to MR since that story was printed.

ETA: Perhaps it was just this investigator that he was trying to contact at that time. I'm sure if he had contacted anyone else they would have just told him there was nothing to report on at the moment and his usual contact would be in touch when he returned.

MOO

 

[SCHMAE]

Thanks for reminding me of that. I did sit up when i read that. LE not keeping the lines of communication open with a Parent of a missing child? How do they know the Parent didn't think of something important. Found something important. Learned something of importance to the case. Nope they didn't get back to him ASAP. I think i make my point.

So......... we suddenly believe MR when he says he's been trying to call LE and they ignore him? When we dont believe other bits of his story ? See what I mean? How do we know he's calling them ......or just waiting for them to call him? I don't know . It seems if he's dishonest and fishy in ' our collective humble opinions' , then what does it matter if he says he's called LE and they ignore the call?

I think that may have sounded ugly and I don't mean it that way at all. Its the first thing I thought of when I read the quote' yeah right, you've been trying and trying to call le' ... I just don't buy it. But if we were to believe it why not believe the other things he's said that have been scrutinized like ' out like a light' vs ' i understand' .

 

[Bravo]

I think that investigator just took a well deserved weekend off and I'm sure he's talked to MR since that story was printed.

MOO

Valid point. Yet I wonder when a task force is in place somebody wouldn't get back to him ASAP?

 

[nursebeeme]

I think that investigator just took a well deserved weekend off and I'm sure he's talked to MR since that story was printed.

ETA: Perhaps it was just this investigator that he was trying to contact at that time. I'm sure if he had contacted anyone else they would have just told him there was nothing to report on at the moment and his usual contact would be in touch when he returned.

MOO

ITA... not even today when he has been missing for one month.