CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

[asyousay]

BBM: there were bed sheets? I've read repeatedly that he slept on the couch and there was a blanket, but have never read/heard that he had a bed (or sheets) at his Dad's house. Did I miss it somewhere?

I do wonder if DNA or fingerprints would've helped at least determine if he was there that Sunday night. Those things would be at the house, and especially if his Dad travels for work a lot I can see how they might still be there from Dylan's Labor Day weekend trip. I wish we knew more.

Sorry my bad . I just assumed that there was bedsheets as who sleeps without bedsheets on there bed . Sounds unconformable

 

[catswhiskers]

Thanks. I like what ER wrote and the way she used the phrase "person who lost you".

She also expands on this later in the same comments - to say his father shouldn't have left him alone so soon after he arrived.

 

[DylansMom34]

She also expands on this later in the same comments - to say his father shouldn't have left him alone so soon after he arrived.

Exactly right... to say the very least, MR was neglectful by leaving Dylan almost immediately after his arrival. Unfortunately, IMO neglectfulness is the least of it.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Thanks. I like what ER wrote and the way she used the phrase "person who lost you".

She certainly speaks directly to her sweet boy.
I hope he's somewhere able to hear it and I hope the "person" who has him or has harmed him hears the sound of LE breathing down his back. :jail:

 

[mijamawi]

Exactly right... to say the very least, MR was neglectful by leaving Dylan almost immediately after his arrival. Unfortunately, IMO neglectfulness is the least of it.

I'm sorry, but I disagree. If leaving your 13 year old home while running errands is neglect, then that would mean I neglect my son. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Should he have made Dylan go with him? I mean seriously, here's a dad who is probably trying to repair his relationship with his son who probably hears nothing but negative things from his mother and brother about his dad. He may have had these appointments set when he thought Dylan would be there earlier. If he wasn't in town a lot due to work, then he probably had a limited amount of time to do these kinds of things. MOO

 

[The Cheese]

She also expands on this later in the same comments - to say his father shouldn't have left him alone so soon after he arrived.

In that same comment - Elaine believes Dylan was in the house Monday morning as Mark said. Very interesting.

 

[The Cheese]

Exactly right... to say the very least, MR was neglectful by leaving Dylan almost immediately after his arrival. Unfortunately, IMO neglectfulness is the least of it.

Dylan isn't a baby. There's not a thing neglectful about leaving a teenager alone for a mere 4 hours.

JMO

 

[LotusPawprint]

In that same comment - Elaine believes Dylan was in the house Monday morning as Mark said. Very interesting.

So if that comment in passing is to be taken literally... are we not looking at a crime occuring between 7:30 and 11:30? And not involving MR?

 

[nikb]

Sorry my bad . I just assumed that there was bedsheets as who sleeps without bedsheets on [their] bed . Sounds unconformable

I wish we knew if he even has a bed or bedroom at his Dad's house. I agree it would be surprising to sleep on a bed with no sheets, but I got the feeling maybe he doesn't have a bed at his Dad's and typically or frequently sleeps on the couch.

If he had a bed there and had slept in it that night I think it'd be so much easier to tell he was there for sure. So many other things in the house would have Dylan's hair, fingerprints, etc. on them because of his other somewhat recent visit, especially depending on how often his Dad's home (possibly obscuring fingerprints) and/or how often and how thoroughly he cleans. I guess it doesn't really matter since per MR Dylan slept on the couch... just something I keep thinking about.

 

[rebeccaeee]

In that same comment - Elaine believes Dylan was in the house Monday morning as Mark said. Very interesting.

Not exactly. She's getting alot of crap for accusing MR of murder, albeit without using the word. I read the latest bit of blaming MR for leaving Dylan alone as the publically acceptable way to go after him in the media. Besides, she used quote marks when she said he "left" Dylan. She believes so much more, IMO. I know we differ here Cheese, but so do I.

 

[scorekeeper]

When did LE find out about Dylan's phone use stopping? That is when the search of the house and cars should have happened, if not sooner.

The first time Elaine mentioned it:

The last time anyone she knows talked to Dylan was Sunday night, Redwine said. Dylan and a friend from Bayfield were to meet early Monday, she said

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/0/SEARCH/'He-would-have-called'

law-enforcement task force canvassing the Vallecito community for clues to the disappearance of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine has discarded the possibility that he ran away Nov. 19 from his father’s home north of the reservoir, La Plata County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Dan Bender said Wednesday

“There’s been the passage of time without any sightings; Dylan was not a visitor but had friends here; he has a history of staying in contact with his family and friends; and there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.”

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...RCH/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say

LE finally mentioned the phone on 11/28.

Elaine mentioned the no contact on phone on 11/23.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Not exactly. She's getting alot of crap for accusing MR of murder, albeit without using the word. I read the latest bit of blaming MR for leaving Dylan alone as the publically acceptable way to go after him in the media. Besides, she used quote marks when she daid he "left" Dylan. She believes so much more, IMO. I know we differ here Cheese, but so do I.

I agree.

It seems to me there are folks out there with whom ER can't win (odd and sad as that is to me) no matter what she says. Whereas looking at any involvement on MR's part is completely unacceptable. She's not able to voice her concerns about her missing son unless it's done by the book that supposedly doesn't exist for parents of the missing.
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JMO.

 

[mmmagique]

I'm sorry, but I disagree. If leaving your 13 year old home while running errands is neglect, then that would mean I neglect my son. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Should he have made Dylan go with him? I mean seriously, here's a dad who is probably trying to repair his relationship with his son who probably hears nothing but negative things from his mother and brother about his dad. He may have had these appointments set when he thought Dylan would be there earlier. If he wasn't in town a lot due to work, then he probably had a limited amount of time to do these kinds of things. MOO

I do agree that if he left his 13 year old at home alone and safe, not knowing or expecting anything bad to come his way, he was not neglectful. I don't believe that's what happened, (but I don't discount it) and if it is, that is very sad.

 

[Flutterflies]

I agree.

It seems to me there are folks out there with whom ER can't win (odd and sad as that is to me) no matter what she says. Whereas looking at any involvement on MR's part is completely unacceptable. She's not able to voice her concerns about her missing son unless it's done by the book that supposedly doesn't exist for parents of the missing.
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JMO.

Do we know for a fact that LE does not know about Dylan's phone? What if MR took the phone away from Dylan on the ride home or upon arrival at home? What if MR told LE this from the beginning? Do we have anyway to know this?
MOO

 

[mmmagique]

In that same comment - Elaine believes Dylan was in the house Monday morning as Mark said. Very interesting.

I'm not getting the same thing as you are from what she said. I can't even figure out how to get there from here.

 

[Salem]

The only approved facebook in this case is the FindMissingDylanRedwine that is linked in the first post of the thread.

All other facebooks, and their content, is OFF LIMITS without prior Mod approval.

Salem

Please edit your posts if necessary.

 

[FruitTingles]

:sigh: ...... Hoping and praying that each new day will bring you home Dylan!

 

[FruitTingles]

Do we know for a fact that LE does not know about Dylan's phone? What if MR took the phone away from Dylan on the ride home or upon arrival at home? What if MR told LE this from the beginning? Do we have anyway to know this?
MOO

Good post!

The way I see it: No. It's all just pure speculation by a lot of people. It all apparently incriminates MR.
JMO.

 

[mijamawi]

Do we know for a fact that LE does not know about Dylan's phone? What if MR took the phone away from Dylan on the ride home or upon arrival at home? What if MR told LE this from the beginning? Do we have anyway to know this?
MOO

I think it was LE that said they ruled out run away due to the fact there was no activity on his phone "sometime after 8:00 PM."

 

[Salem]

I agree.

It seems to me there are folks out there with whom ER can't win (odd and sad as that is to me) no matter what she says. Whereas looking at any involvement on MR's part is completely unacceptable. She's not able to voice her concerns about her missing son unless it's done by the book that supposedly doesn't exist for parents of the missing.
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JMO.

Okay - this is so not true. Both sides of the parenting are taking hits in this case. So.... STOP this discussion. Say what you have to say and move on. Everybody gets to think what they like, plain and simple. If you disagree, then move past the post or state facts to refute it.

BUT.... no more discussion of this side is mean to the other side. Just stop with that. We are not here to discuss each other.

Salem