CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

[cattlekate]

God Bless you Dylan Redwine. You are never far from me, and my children's, thoughts. I am so sad you are not home with your Mum and bros for this Christmas. My heart just aches.

 

[Eileen730]

To be honest, reading his texts, I really do not think he would have willingly missed his ride. He sounded very, very anxious to see his friend, IMO. And he only had a few days there. It was not like being at home, friends you could see anytime. But my main worry is still the lack of contact. Makes no sense.

I agree, makes no sense at all!

 

[The Cheese]

That's the thing here that you can say , ok Dylan is 13 and just thought il sleep in ( I do not believe this ) but then nobody can explain away not contacting RN that morning and arranging to meet up later and to apologise for letting him down that morning !


It simply does not add up !!

Moo

From what Elaine said on Nancy Grace on December 3rd, it sounded to me like Dylan's norm was to go and do all day, and not check in until evening. He'd text mom when he decided where he was going to land to sleep & mom would text him at random during day asking him if he was having fun.

That doesn't sound to me like a child who let people know what he was doing, left notes, called ahead, or asked parental permission prior to heading somewhere.

Mark said when he got home he wasn't alarmed, and pretty much figured Dylan had gone off with or to a friend.

Parents seem to me to agree this was Dylan's norm. Elaine wasn't upset or concerned about not hearing from Dylan, and neither was Mark. Mark got concerned later in the afternoon, which is towards the time Dylan normally sent a text that he had 'landed'.

This is how I'm perceiving it in looking at what the parents say about what's normal for Dylan.

Also note that Dylan didn't text mom when he got in town from the plane. Mom had to text him to find out if he'd landed and Mark had picked him up. This was more than an hour after he'd landed.

I'm not making any judgments on the parents. I just took what they said and how they behaved Sunday and Monday to see what was normal for them as parents, and for Dylan, and that's what I've thought.

 

[asyousay]

To be honest, reading his texts, I really do not think he would have willingly missed his ride. He sounded very, very anxious to see his friend, IMO. And he only had a few days there. It was not like being at home, friends you could see anytime. But my main worry is still the lack of contact. Makes no sense.

Exactly !!

Dylan desperately wanted to visit RN hence the 6:30am plans and him threatening to badger RN all day if he did answer ( note the mention the mobile phone here as well )

I also do not like the fact that Dylan was already late when MR "claims" he woke Dylan up !
That also seems off !

 

[Eileen730]

From what Elaine said on Nancy Grace on December 3rd, it sounded to me like Dylan's norm was to go and do all day, and not check in until evening. He'd text mom when he decided where he was going to land to sleep & mom would text him at random during day asking him if he was having fun.

That doesn't sound to me like a child who let people know what he was doing, left notes, called ahead, or asked parental permission prior to heading somewhere.

Mark said when he got home he wasn't alarmed, and pretty much figured Dylan had gone off with or to a friend.

Parents seem to me to agree this was Dylan's norm. Elaine wasn't upset or concerned about not hearing from Dylan, and neither was Mark. Mark got concerned later in the afternoon, which is towards the time Dylan normally sent a text that he had 'landed'.

This is how I'm perceiving it in looking at what the parents say about what's normal for Dylan.

Also note that Dylan didn't text mom when he got in town from the plane. Mom had to text him to find out if he'd landed and Mark had picked him up. This was more than an hour after he'd landed.

I'm not making any judgments on the parents. I just took what they said and how they behaved Sunday and Monday to see what was normal for them as parents, and for Dylan, and that's what I've thought.

Well, My son would go over his friends then he and his friend would go to another friends and maybe they all go to another firiends maybe even end up back at my house, then the kids would call their moms and let them know where they landed I see nothing wrong with what she said.
When my son would do this id also tell him to let me know whos house they ended up at and it sounds to me like he let ppl know where he was as to not worry them!

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

What if Dad told Dylan that he couldnt see his friends at all that week he was there and took his phone?
Just a thought!

 

[Eileen730]

From what Elaine said on Nancy Grace on December 3rd, it sounded to me like Dylan's norm was to go and do all day, and not check in until evening. He'd text mom when he decided where he was going to land to sleep & mom would text him at random during day asking him if he was having fun.

That doesn't sound to me like a child who let people know what he was doing, left notes, called ahead, or asked parental permission prior to heading somewhere.

Mark said when he got home he wasn't alarmed, and pretty much figured Dylan had gone off with or to a friend.

Parents seem to me to agree this was Dylan's norm. Elaine wasn't upset or concerned about not hearing from Dylan, and neither was Mark. Mark got concerned later in the afternoon, which is towards the time Dylan normally sent a text that he had 'landed'.

This is how I'm perceiving it in looking at what the parents say about what's normal for Dylan.

Also note that Dylan didn't text mom when he got in town from the plane. Mom had to text him to find out if he'd landed and Mark had picked him up. This was more than an hour after he'd landed.

I'm not making any judgments on the parents. I just took what they said and how they behaved Sunday and Monday to see what was normal for them as parents, and for Dylan, and that's what I've thought.

You also forget the age of these kids they dont drive so a Parent has to drive them to these places Mom just wanted to know whos house they end up at.

 

[YidArmyRach]

This is so frustrating because and I am sure you all will remember originally they said the dogs tracked his scent to the lake. jmo

And in my opinion that is why they keep searching at the lake.

That doesn't have any bearing on what time he got up though.

And I thought it was "a scent", not necessarily his? Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought the dogs indicated a scent of decomposition, that's all.

 

[mck16]

I hope everyone has a Merry and BLessed Christmas Day!!! :seeya: Later gators.

 

[mck16]

That doesn't have any bearing on what time he got up though.

And I thought it was "a scent", not necessarily his? Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought the dogs indicated a scent of decomposition, that's all.

It is in the timeline Post #5 what I was referring to.

 

[asyousay]

From what Elaine said on Nancy Grace on December 3rd, it sounded to me like Dylan's norm was to go and do all day, and not check in until evening. He'd text mom when he decided where he was going to land to sleep & mom would text him at random during day asking him if he was having fun.

That doesn't sound to me like a child who let people know what he was doing, left notes, called ahead, or asked parental permission prior to heading somewhere.

Mark said when he got home he wasn't alarmed, and pretty much figured Dylan had gone off with or to a friend.

Parents seem to me to agree this was Dylan's norm. Elaine wasn't upset or concerned about not hearing from Dylan, and neither was Mark. Mark got concerned later in the afternoon, which is towards the time Dylan normally sent a text that he had 'landed'.

This is how I'm perceiving it in looking at what the parents say about what's normal for Dylan.

Also note that Dylan didn't text mom when he got in town from the plane. Mom had to text him to find out if he'd landed and Mark had picked him up. This was more than an hour after he'd landed.

I'm not making any judgments on the parents. I just took what they said and how they behaved Sunday and Monday to see what was normal for them as parents, and for Dylan, and that's what I've thought.

I get what you are saying but I do not think Dylan was that unreliable . If Dylan was lax turning up places then why did Ryan text him 10 mins after he should of been there ? ( that strikes me as somebody who made plans and kept them as why else would Ryan text him basically straight away )

Dylan's mum said Dylan was happiest with friends and the people he loved . So I can not see him blowing them off for a couple more hours sleep when he would of had about 8/9 hours in the first place .

 

[YidArmyRach]

From what Elaine said on Nancy Grace on December 3rd, it sounded to me like Dylan's norm was to go and do all day, and not check in until evening. He'd text mom when he decided where he was going to land to sleep & mom would text him at random during day asking him if he was having fun.

That doesn't sound to me like a child who let people know what he was doing, left notes, called ahead, or asked parental permission prior to heading somewhere.

Mark said when he got home he wasn't alarmed, and pretty much figured Dylan had gone off with or to a friend.

Parents seem to me to agree this was Dylan's norm. Elaine wasn't upset or concerned about not hearing from Dylan, and neither was Mark. Mark got concerned later in the afternoon, which is towards the time Dylan normally sent a text that he had 'landed'.

This is how I'm perceiving it in looking at what the parents say about what's normal for Dylan.

Also note that Dylan didn't text mom when he got in town from the plane. Mom had to text him to find out if he'd landed and Mark had picked him up. This was more than an hour after he'd landed.

I'm not making any judgments on the parents. I just took what they said and how they behaved Sunday and Monday to see what was normal for them as parents, and for Dylan, and that's what I've thought.

That was my exact thought when I heard ER saying that. DR seemed to have an awful lot of freedom for a 13 year old, and seemed to go hours without anyone knowing where he was - or being worried about where he was. Added to that was ER's comment that she had spoken to him about hitchhiking. That makes me able to believe that he may have set out to make his own way to his friends house that morning, and encountered trouble on the way.

I'm not saying I necessarily believe that is what happened, but at this stage (and with the little we know) I can't discount it.

I know a lot of people are thinking that the lack of info from LE, and the fact they haven't publicly cleared Dylan's dad could mean they suspect MR, and are just waiting for the evidence to nail him. But what if that is what they want people to think -so that perhaps another person might feel comfortable that he'd got away with it, and make a mistake or give something crucial away? Just an idea, and all MOO.

 

[YidArmyRach]

I get what you are saying but I do not think Dylan was that unreliable . If Dylan was lax turning up places then why did RN text him 10 mins after he should of been there ? ( that strikes me as somebody who made plans and kept them as why else would RN text him basically straight away )

Dylan's mum said Dylan was happiest with friends and the people he loved . So I can not see him blowing them off for a couple more hours sleep when he would of had about 8/9 hours in the first place .

8/9 hours sleep really isn't that much when you remember that he'd been up till 4am on Sunday morning..... and then had a tiring day of travelling.

 

[MissJ]

I'm still happily on the fence :fence: but want to say to everyone Please have a safe and healthy Christmas.

I can't shake the feeling I have that Dylan is somewhere safe. I wish I could and like Seajay this is the way I want to think about him.

I don't see it the way you do but I fervently hope you are right and he is alive and safe somewhere!

 

[ICUDOUCME]

not sure if this has been posted, the bloodhounds found no trace of Dylan.

So where does that leave us with the abducted theories?

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...nce/-/9153728/17874294/-/sgkdvez/-/index.html

That would tell me a few things, 1. He sure as heck wasn't walking, so no hitching a ride. 2. We won't find him there. 3. He had to of left that area in a vehicle of some kind, and more than likely they had the windows up, or he never made it there. JMO

 

[The Cheese]

I get what you are saying but I do not think Dylan was that unreliable . If Dylan was lax turning up places then why did RN text him 10 mins after he should of been there ? ( that strikes me as somebody who made plans and kept them as why else would RN text him basically straight away )

Dylan's mum said Dylan was happiest with friends and the people he loved . So I can not see him blowing them off for a couple more hours sleep when he would of had about 8/9 hours in the first place .

I can't Dylan's friend texting him as an indicator of Dylan's normal behavior. It's a reflection of his own behavior. I used to have a friend who was always late or didn't show at all for lunch, shopping, etc. I would always call her to see if she near arriving within a few minutes of our planned meeting time, so I'd know whether to wait or just do something else (I always had an alternate plan so I wouldn't get so pissed off at her lol)

I bet if Dylan's friends were asked, they'd say the plans they made with each other weren't hard and fast unless it was something really important - a birthday party at a restaurant or something like that.

I'd put more emphasis on Dylan not calling his friend if they had hard and fast plans for something important, but according to their texts, it was just going to be hanging out and doing whatever spontaneously occurred to them. The friend's later text around 10am indicates that to me too.

I think Dylan's pretty much of a free spirit, and his parents very relaxed or casual in their expectations of him. And it doesn't make sense to me that he'd be loose and easy with family, and not that same way with friends. Usually kids are more tight, more strict or whatever, with family, and less so with friends. Not more so. In other words, if he didn't even text his mom when he got off the plane and dad found him okay, why in the world would he text a friend that he was running late? I think he'd either watch TV till dad got home for his ride, or take off and try to hitch to the friends.

It's all just my opinion and how I'm looking at things. Primarily guesswork because we have so little information.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

The bloodhounds searched around the lake. I wonder if they've searched around MR's house?

 

[MissJ]

And this is why, no matter how much I try to climb the fence, I cannot. If Dylan were at home and alive and well that AM, there is no way he would not have contacted his friend. Online, on the phone, text, FB, whatever. So either DR wasn't there and MR lied or DR wasn't able. Either way, I always circle back to MR. I have tried to think in other directions but just can't get past him.

I agree. I don't like being cynical and I hope I'm wrong but I believe Dylan was no longer with us that morning.

 

[Dee10]

The bloodhounds searched around the lake. I wonder if they've searched around MR's house?

I can't even imagine that they didn't.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

How many others of you have seen the photo of Dylan down in the floorboard of a vehicle texting on his phone? Was this something he did alot? Also who took that photo?