CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #19

[thepinkdragon]

How many others of you have seen the photo of Dylan down in the floorboard of a vehicle texting on his phone? Was this something he did alot? Also who took that photo?

Fill me in this is the first I've heard if it.


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[ICUDOUCME]

Fill me in this is the first I've heard if it.


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It is on CR FB page

 

[LotusPawprint]

I'd be interested in Dylan's friends' take on whether they think he would hitch a ride on his own or if it was more of a one-time, group activity.

I can see the mindset being different for a kid all by himself, with his cell phone apparently not working as opposed to the situation his friend described, One time during a snowstorm, Dylan was the one to stick out his thumb and hitch the boys a ride home from the library.

There's a lot that kids (and adults) will do with their buddies but would never, ever do on their own, no matter how desperate the situation.

 

[scorekeeper]

The bloodhounds searched around the lake. I wonder if they've searched around MR's house?

I think they said they did spot searches but the lake was the only "spot" identified. They did not specifically say what other places, so we are once again left to our own imagination.

 

[scorekeeper]

Even if Dylan was "tired" on Monday morning, I truly believe that he would have gotten up and went to his friend's house. He's a 13 year old and had been exchanging text all day off and on with his friend. He was excited to go see him Sunday night. The only person that changed that plan was his dad.

If Dylan had been able to go to his friend's house Monday morning, I bet they both would have talked for a bit then probably went back to sleep. His friend did not text Dylan again until around 10 am so that tells me he probably went back to sleep.

JMO

 

[The Cheese]

I think they said they did spot searches but the lake was the only "spot" identified. They did not specifically say what other places, so we are once again left to our own imagination.

They said they also searched buildings, but not what type of buildings, or where they were.

 

[The Cheese]

I'd be interested in Dylan's friends' take on whether they think he would hitch a ride on his own or if it was more of a one-time, group activity.

I can see the mindset being different for a kid all by himself, with his cell phone apparently not working as opposed to the situation his friend described, One time during a snowstorm, Dylan was the one to stick out his thumb and hitch the boys a ride home from the library.

There's a lot that kids (and adults) will do with their buddies but would never, ever do on their own, no matter how desperate the situation.

The library hitching incident convinces me even more that Dylan was footloose and fancy free. Maybe his friends too. There were at least 3 boys including Dylan. How were they going to get home from the library anyway? What happened with 3 boys' moms, dads, older brothers, older sisters? Did they not know the kids were at the library? Surely they knew there was a snowstorm.

With 3 boys and their families, why weren't there phone calls going back and forth as to who was going to pick up the boys and telling the boys to stay put, warm and safe in the library, until somebody got there to pick them up?

I question whether any family members even knew they were at the library. Otherwise, with a snowstorm, why weren't moms, dads, older sibs texting to figure out how to get the boys home, and cautioning the boys to stay put and stay safe?

I have to believe that none of the boys called anyone, and even that it was typical for them, especially Dylan, to figure out their own way around, including, for Dylan, hitchhiking.

These behaviors, stories, parents' words have led me to think that most likely, Dylan left the house, and tried to hitch to the friends.

 

[cluciano63]

I can't see why Dylan would set out for his friend's house, knowing his dad planned to drive him there around noon, especially without checking too see if R was still there waiting. If his phone had lost its charge AND he had no charger, despite his mom saying he did, I believe he would have just waited for his dad. Hitching is what you do when you can't get a ride.

So. IF he overslept, and IF his phone did not work, why not just sit there and watch some more TV? Dad would be home, Dylan could call or text R from his phone and they would be on their way. There has been no indication that Dylan would be inclined to go outside and play alone while waiting, nor can I see that happening. Play what?

We either have to believe he decided, for some reason, to blow off his father, not even leaving a note, and try his luck at hitching a ride; that someone came inside and convinced him to go away with them, for foul purposes, still no note; or that he was physically unable to contact R that morning due to something having occurred on Sunday night or Saturday morning.

Based on the odds, number three seems most likely to me. I would not lean this way if Dylan had a different background with regards to his parents, their hostilities, etc. but he didn't. He had two parents who had been battling for years, the visit was court ordered, etc. not exactly the setting for a blissful reunion.

I am not determined to point at his father, it just becomes more of a possibility to me when I look at the other options. Child abductions are far rarer than incidents between fathers and teenage sons.

If Dylan does not magically reappear sometime in the next 16 or so hours, I doubt very much he is being held by a family member at the request of a parent. No one who cares for Dylan is going to force him to stay away and miss Christmas Day.

 

[kkdj]

I have not posted for awhile (holiday and family stuff but have been reading.
Hold on! My grandson just scared the living daylight outa me!

 

[kkdj]

I hope and pray Dylan is somewhere safe, warm, nourished, cleansed.
Merry Christmas Dylan Redwine!
You are loved by so many, protected by so many, nurtured by so many!
We are here waiting for you and we will prove it!

 

[SCHMAE]

I can't see why Dylan would set out for his friend's house, knowing his dad planned to drive him there around noon, especially without checking too see if R was still there waiting. If his phone had lost its charge AND he had no charger, despite his mom saying he did, I believe he would have just waited for his dad. Hitching is what you do when you can't get a ride.

So. IF he overslept, and IF his phone did not work, why not just sit there and watch some more TV? Dad would be home, Dylan could call or text R from his phone and they would be on their way. There has been no indication that Dylan would be inclined to go outside and play alone while waiting, nor can I see that happening. Play what?

We either have to believe he decided, for some reason, to blow off his father, not even leaving a note, and try his luck at hitching a ride; that someone came inside and convinced him to go away with them, for foul purposes, still no note; or that he was physically unable to contact R that morning due to something having occurred on Sunday night or Saturday morning.

Based on the odds, number three seems most likely to me. I would not lean this way if Dylan had a different background with regards to his parents, their hostilities, etc. but he didn't. He had two parents who had been battling for years, the visit was court ordered, etc. not exactly the setting for a blissful reunion.

I am not determined to point at his father, it just becomes more of a possibility to me when I look at the other options. Child abductions are far rarer than incidents between fathers and teenage sons.

If Dylan does not magically reappear sometime in the next 16 or so hours, I doubt very much he is being held by a family member at the request of a parent. No one who cares for Dylan is going to force him to stay away and miss Christmas Day.

Agreed 100% that he did not decide to take off to his friends. He 's old enough to know the walk there would take longer than the wait for his dad.

 

[kkdj]

don't you think its odd that they found no trace of Dylans scent?

I think thats very odd if he was abducted from that area, you would expect some trace.

I do not think dylan ever made it to dads. Jmo
It was either a handoff to someone or a kill. Sorry, but that's jmo
Prior to getting to dads.
Again, jmo

 

[kkdj]

hmmm.?6 members.
Dylan is falling by the wayside!
WHY????????

 

[ThePhantom]

Was just wondering why the police are so confident Dylan is not a runaway?

 

[Camdenres]

My heart is aching for Dylan's mom. Cannot begin to imagine the pain she is feeling not knowing where he is this Chrismas morning! Merry Christmas everyone! Hope your day is magical!

 

[cluciano63]

Was just wondering why the police are so confident Dylan is not a runaway?

Thinking about if Dylan wanted to escape his father; he could have just gone to his friend R's house when his dad came home and refused to leave again. As far as running away, where else would he have to go? He is only thirteen.

LE placing so much emphasis on the non-use of the phone did seem kind of startling so early on, but if they had already looked at his records and pattern of use, it may have shown that Dylan did in fact text almost constantly. The sudden stopping of all activity would be alarming. If he was in the habit of texting nonstop, I think he would have complained loudly if his phone was broken.

LE's determined silence makes me think more and more that they might believe Dylan was physically unable to reply to his friend as of 8pm on Sunday night. It would also explain their lack of warnings of any kind to the public, IMO.

 

[missrugby]

As a mother to two small sons in Heaven I can honestly say that is a pain like no other, but the not knowing would be so awful! My heart aches for Elaine.

 

[Linda7NJ]

hmmm.?6 members.
Dylan is falling by the wayside!
WHY????????

It's the holiday. Very busy around my house...Im still thinking about Dylan


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[mck16]

QUOTE=YidArmyRach;8665470]That doesn't have any bearing on what time he got up though.

And I thought it was "a scent", not necessarily his? Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought the dogs indicated a scent of decomposition, that's all.[/QUOTE]

Sorry Yid, I quoted the wrong post. Should have been post 626. Maybe too much eggnog. :blushing:

 

[Bravo]

As a mother to two small sons in Heaven I can honestly say that is a pain like no other, but the not knowing would be so awful! My heart aches for Elaine.

So very sorry for your loss. It truly is the ultimate. That of a child/children :rose: