CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #20

[mijamawi]

Seriously. "An inkling" is all it takes to justify destroying lives?

If that were the acceptable standard, I feel sure MR might have just decided to "have an inkling" himself. So if they were BOTH disappeared right now due to said "inkling", we would be hailing MR as a hero and savior of Dylan's?

I really, truly don't get this.

Yes, an "inkling." You know, gut feeling. If I had a gut feeling my child could be in danger by going somewhere, I'm not gonna send them. Period.

 

[mck16]

what do you mean that ER hung around a long time fighting with MR? Do you have a link to show that?

IMO she did not hang around fighting him, she divorced him and eventually moved away.

It seems that ER moving away was the catalyst, thats when they started fighting over Dylan from what I've read.

IMO MR didn't like ER moving away or repartnering with her previous husband, it meant the only control he had over her was with Dylan.

I really do not have the time or the desire to go find a link.You have been here all the while and you know what I am referring too. If not sorry. jmo

 

[FruitTingles]

I'm sorry I must have missed something, I was replying to someone elses comments suggesting that a parent could choose to ignore a court order.

I think I quoted the wrong post. This iPad is doing my head in. Sorry!

 

[mmmagique]

I think sometimes people might actually be more likely to admit things to acquaintances or strangers, rather than family members...Less tension at the setting would lead to less defensiveness and perhaps more openness on the part of the confessor.

I've never murdered anyone, but I think there are things you just never tell anyone else.

It reminds me of a book I read once where some older gentlemen who had a terrible secret in their past (think Kennedy's Chappequiddick incident) would get together and tell each other stories.

The stories would begin like this: One man would ask that nights storyteller "What's the worst thing you've ever done?" and the Answer was always the same: "I won't tell you that but, I will tell you the most horrible thing that's ever happened to me...a truly dreadful thing..." and then go on with his story. It's a great book. If you get a chance to read Peter Straub's "Ghost Story", pick it up.

This was all just a long way of saying, some people keep their secrets forever.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I really do not have the time or the desire to go find a link.You have been here all the while and you know what I am referring too. If not sorry. jmo

I really have no idea what you are referring to, nowhere have I read that ER hung around fighting MR.

and IIRC they did not fight over Dylan until ER moved away.

 

[Seajay]

I'm still just absolutely flaberghasted by all the accusations that MR is a drunk.

As far as the attorney, it has been linked that MR was not home often due to work. He may have had this appointment set for weeks. Remember, Dylan was supposed to come in Saturday. If MR thought Dylan would be at his friends, why not take care of his business in the morning. Even if Dylan didn't have plans with his friends, it's highly likely he could have taken care of his errands before Dylan even woke up.

I don't get it either. A 4th of July party where it's the only time we've known he was drunk and that translates into him being a raging alcoholic. I guess that would mean anytime anyone got buzzed while at a party one time has a drinking problem and is an alcoholic.

 

[cluciano63]

You know, at first we read that Dylan rarely spent time with his father, and then last night the FB page person discounted all of that and said all way just swell only until Mom decided to move. I tend to believe what came out first, jmo. I am not convinced that the FB page host knows more than the public, for the most part. I also do not understand why Mom's post was removed. If anyone should be allowed to voice her opinion, it is Mom, IMO.

 

[vasportsmom]

I really do not have the time or the desire to go find a link.You have been here all the while and you know what I am referring too. If not sorry. jmo

I have no clue what you are talking about and if you are gonna throw it out as a fact and use it condemn Elaine then it needs to be backed up with a MSM link.

 

[catswhiskers]

It must be very difficult for LE to sift through all the tips they receive from the public. I read this in the Denver newspaper article linked above:
"In the past couple weeks, we conducted spot searches using a helicopter related to one tip and a bloodhound in another," Bender said.
However, Bender said neither tip led to anything new in the case.
I can just imagine the costs involved in those fruitless searches, yet am guessing that ruling out some tips would be too risky - just in case they lead somewhere. Just rambling here about what a tough call it would be to make the decision to skip over some tips

 

[mck16]

I really have no idea what you are referring to, nowhere have I read that ER hung around fighting MR.

and IIRC they did not fight over Dylan until ER moved away.

In what year was the divorce finalized?

 

[cluciano63]

I've never murdered anyone, but I think there are things you just never tell anyone else.

It reminds me of a book I read once where some older gentlemen who had a terrible secret in their past (think Kennedy's Chappequiddick incident) would get together and tell each other stories.

The stories would begin like this: One man would ask that nights storyteller "What's the worst thing you've ever done?" and the Answer was always the same: "I won't tell you that but, I will tell you the most horrible thing that's ever happened to me...a truly dreadful thing..." and then go on with his story. It's a great book. If you get a chance to read Peter Straub's "Ghost Story", pick it up.

This was all just a long way of saying, some people keep their secrets forever.

Especially about children. I doubt we will ever hear what happened to Haleigh Cummings, Ayla Reynolds, and many others. One just does not admit to being a child killer, as a rule, not when drunk, or ever.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Yes, an "inkling." You know, gut feeling. If I had a gut feeling my child could be in danger by going somewhere, I'm not gonna send them. Period.

you would ignore a judges orders and chance losing custody to the person you wanted to protect them from? Okayyyy

 

[vasportsmom]

You know, at first we read that Dylan rarely spent time with his father, and then last night the FB page person discounted all of that and said all way just swell only until Mom decided to move. I tend to believe what came out first, jmo. I am not convinced that the FB page host knows more than the public, for the most part. I also do not understand why Mom's post was removed. If anyone should be allowed to voice her opinion, it is Mom, IMO.

I thought that was strange too. It was reported early on that there were "near monthly" court hearings. IME, That does not happen when things are running smoothly.

 

[cluciano63]

It must be very difficult for LE to sift through all the tips they receive from the public. I read this in the Denver newspaper article linked above:
"In the past couple weeks, we conducted spot searches using a helicopter related to one tip and a bloodhound in another," Bender said.
However, Bender said neither tip led to anything new in the case.
I can just imagine the costs involved in those fruitless searches, yet am guessing that ruling out some tips would be too risky - just in case they lead somewhere. Just rambling here about what a tough call it would be to make the decision to skip over some tips

And many of the tips are probably completely silly, based on dreams, visions,, etc...

If LE has to go back to those tips now, they are pretty much stymied for evidence, IMO.

 

[mck16]

you would ignore a judges orders and chance losing custody to the person you wanted to protect them from? Okayyyy

Absolutely!! First of all the NCP would have to complain, it would have to go to court, and we all know this takes time. In the meantime she could present her fears to the judge and most likely he would change the orders. ty

 

[mmmagique]

I think I agree. And it is so sad that this can even be a possibility. If however DR was trying to runaway and something happened or if something happened at the hands of his father it was totally predictable. After seeing all the rehashing of the fighting CR/MR, MR taking a swing and DR hitting back, this family was totally dysfunctional and only could end up in some form of tradgedy. Even if DR had not gone missing, they were all destined to some sort of horrible event. CR involved in drugs, no telling what would have been DR's future. I am not blaming ER for anything, but she did hang around a long time fighting with MR. You can't fight with someone if they don't fight back. I wish the clock could be turned back and ER would never have put this child on the airplane. I almost feel as if I have given up on the lot of them. i think both parents are in some way to blame. jmo

BBM

Is this in MSM? I have never seen or heard this. (and I'm not sure it's relevant even if true.)

 

[FruitTingles]

You know, at first we read that Dylan rarely spent time with his father, and then last night the FB page person discounted all of that and said all way just swell only until Mom decided to move. I tend to believe what came out first, jmo. I am not convinced that the FB page host knows more than the public, for the most part. I also do not understand why Mom's post was removed. If anyone should be allowed to voice her opinion, it is Mom, IMO.

The way I see it, ER monitors the FB page a lot which would lead me to believe that she wouldn't let something like that be posted if there was not any truth to it. (The post about custody, MR loves and cares for DR and ER had no reason to believe that DR was in any danger with his father etc.)

Remembering that the majority of people here tend to believe everything ER says.
That's JMO though.

:twocents:

 

[catswhiskers]

You know, at first we read that Dylan rarely spent time with his father, and then last night the FB page person discounted all of that and said all way just swell only until Mom decided to move. I tend to believe what came out first, jmo. I am not convinced that the FB page host knows more than the public, for the most part. I also do not understand why Mom's post was removed. If anyone should be allowed to voice her opinion, it is Mom, IMO.

The page admin stated up front that the post was removed at ERs request. Not that it helped her, seeing it has now been posted in MSM after the fact. A lack of compassion on their part as they too would have seen that ER wanted it removed, but went ahead and published it anyway

 

[aust amateur slueth]

You know, at first we read that Dylan rarely spent time with his father, and then last night the FB page person discounted all of that and said all way just swell only until Mom decided to move. I tend to believe what came out first, jmo. I am not convinced that the FB page host knows more than the public, for the most part. I also do not understand why Mom's post was removed. If anyone should be allowed to voice her opinion, it is Mom, IMO.

I believe Elaines post was removed at her request after some really 'considerate' types decided to attack her for sending Dylan in the first place.

I believe her post should have stayed, its her child thats missing and she has the right to be angry. Its the posts that knocked her for sending Dylan that should have been removed.

 

[DylansMom34]

I thought CR was off limits!!!!