CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #21

[katydid23]

And if he is a POI, why did they let him search for evidence with the risk of him contaminating it?

He was in a small group and partnered with a cop. So he had no chance of contaminating anything, imo.

 

[StJohn]

I can't recall the name of the recent little girl (she had the hearing loss) that was killed by her neighbor; he was involved with her search and I think LE had him in their sights from the get-go.

I'm so sorry I can't remember her name or state she was in...

Yes - that was 9 yr old Skylar Dials - killed by her neighbor Shane Collett. A small town in Georgia.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

He was in a small group and partnered with a cop. So he had no chance of contaminating anything, imo.

Do you think he was partnered with a copy by accident? If he's on LE's radar they knew exactly what they were doing.

 

[mck16]

Do you think he was partnered with a copy by accident? If he's on LE's radar they knew exactly what they were doing.

I believe WS member Ransom, who was on the search too, said that everyone was partnered with an officer. jmo

 

[PaulR]

He was in a small group and partnered with a cop. So he had no chance of contaminating anything, imo.

Of course he would have. Just stumble upon something, grab it and say "I think this was Dylan's!"

There's no way that LE would let MR near any possible evidence.

 

[jjenny]

Of course he would have. Just stumble upon something, grab it and say "I think this was Dylan's!"

There's no way that LE would let MR near any possible evidence.

The searchers were told not to touch anything, but instead flag it if they found any items.

 

[LotusPawprint]

weird that the two Georgia boys found in TX with their dad were playing with a nerf football. not weird - uncommon. just weird - coincidental.

On CNN last night, this caught my attention (of course the 2 cases are so different but everything relates back to Dylan these days):

The boys told mom -- daddy had been telling them that mommy was in the hospital and that the phone had bad reception and he couldn't get mommy on the phone


'Bad reception' is the new 'my-dog-ate-my-homework'

 

[mck16]

I heard back from my friend who's daughter has a home is Durango. They are there right now and will be back Saturday so she is going to get more information from them when they return.

She did say:

"I have been to Vallecito Lake once. I drove up there one day to check it out and quickly left. Its the sort
of people you don't really want to be around. Not a pretty place.'

So, this is new information to me. I had not heard anyone specifically say anything about the lake or it not being a good place. jmo

 

[LotusPawprint]

And if he is a POI, why did they let him search for evidence with the risk of him contaminating it?

IIRC, Marc Klass addressed this on Tricia's radio show several weeks ago and said it's not uncommon at all for LE to have parents come along if they're a POI (or more) in LE's eyes.

 

[StJohn]

Of course he would have. Just stumble upon something, grab it and say "I think this was Dylan's!"

There's no way that LE would let MR near any possible evidence.

Are you implying that MR was allowed to search because LE didn't expect to find any relevant evidence? Not sure where yout thought process is heading with this...

 

[MrsPC]

IIRC, Marc Klass addressed this on Tricia's radio show several weeks ago and said it's not uncommon at all for LE to have parents come along if they're a POI (or more) in LE's eyes.

IIRC, Klaas also said it was a way for law enforcement to watch MR's demeanor, etc.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I heard back from my friend who's daughter has a home is Durango. They are there right now and will be back Saturday so she is going to get more information from them when they return.

She did say:

"I have been to Vallecito Lake once. I drove up there one day to check it out and quickly left. Its the sort
of people you don't really want to be around. Not a pretty place.'

So, this is new information to me. I had not heard anyone specifically say anything about the lake or it not being a good place. jmo

That's interesting.. I wonder what she was referring to, specifically. It looks beautiful, but I've only looked through the Vallecito Lake Chamber of Commerce website (doubt they're going to paint an ugly picture -lol).


I'd love to hear more if she gets a chance (and you, too!).

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

That's interesting.. I wonder what she was referring to, specifically. It looks beautiful, but I've only looked through the Vallecito Lake Chamber of Commerce website (doubt they're going to paint an ugly picture -lol).


I'd love to hear more if she gets a chance (and you, too!).

:what:
Me too, definitely!

 

[cluciano63]

This case is starting to make me feel like an intruder, in a way...LE has nothing at all to say, his parents very little. Seems like all the FB page wants are prayers. Nothing is being shared, nothing really being asked of the community or the public. So, I guess they don't need help? I feel very sorry for Dylan. I don't believe he will be found for a very long time, if ever.

 

[PaulR]

Are you implying that MR was allowed to search because LE didn't expect to find any relevant evidence? Not sure where yout thought process is heading with this...

I'm saying that LE wouldn't let MR search and possibly contaminate evidence. There are plenty of reasons for them to give him to stay back at IC.

 

[jjenny]

I'm saying that LE wouldn't let MR search and possibly contaminate evidence. There are plenty of reasons for them to give him to stay back at IC.

You were already given several reasons for why that wouldn't be the case.

 

[mck16]

That's interesting.. I wonder what she was referring to, specifically. It looks beautiful, but I've only looked through the Vallecito Lake Chamber of Commerce website (doubt they're going to paint an ugly picture -lol).


I'd love to hear more if she gets a chance (and you, too!).

Knowing her as well as I do, I would say that she did not feel it was a family place. Not a place she would want her family to go. It would not be college kids drinking or anything like that as she lives in a college town and is acccustomed to them. I will find out for sure though. jmo

 

[PaulR]

You were already given several reasons for why that wouldn't be the case.

They all seem to boil down to "LE was watching MR to see what he'd do."

If MR was searching an area where he knew nothing would be found, they'd learn nothing.
If MR was searching an area where something could be found, he'd try to contaminate the evidence.

I respect Klaas but he's not LE.

 

[NC Analyzer]

They all seem to boil down to "LE was watching MR to see what he'd do."

If MR was searching an area where he knew nothing would be found, they'd learn nothing.
If MR was searching an area where something could be found, he'd try to contaminate the evidence.

I respect Klaas but he's not LE.

Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be a cop either. In many states and localities in this country, it isn't even required to have a college degree. In some states, a 2-yr degree is adequate...point is, most everything in LE is taught on the job or through on the job training courses. Most LE attends some type of basic training academy prior to graduating and then they partner up with a senior cop to gain on the job training. A good majority of armchair sleuths have managed to educate themselves quite well regarding LE process and procedure. My point is this: it doesn't take much to learn police procedure...just an interest and the drive to pursue it.
That said, I'm pretty sure Mark Klaas has been as well educated in LE techniques as most LE personnel themselves, so I would consider his experience just as credible.

 

[LotusPawprint]

They all seem to boil down to "LE was watching MR to see what he'd do."

If MR was searching an area where he knew nothing would be found, they'd learn nothing.
If MR was searching an area where something could be found, he'd try to contaminate the evidence.

I respect Klaas but he's not LE.

He's not LE but he's worked closely with LE and parents of missing children. He probably knows what goes on at different stages much better than we do.

I doubt LE wants the public to know one of their strategies is encouraging potential POI parents of missing children to participate in searches so they can keep an eye on them. Then every parent would be too stressed and would know to stay home and rest if it was the more acceptable (and easy) thing to do.

I imagine if a parent wants to search, LE will accomodate that for LE's benefit and if the parent doesn't want to search - again, LE will roll with that, too. I would think they'd want to keep a cooperative parent cooperating. If MR wanted to participate and he's not involved, great. If he wants to participate and he's involved, they'll make that work too.

I think Marc Klass is in a position to speak about things that LE wouldn't come out and explain to be SOP, but that's all JMO.