CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #21

[cluciano63]

I honestly was not being snarky. AZG has verified poster for this case under her name. Some people, and yes I'm glad to have fresh eyes, may take her word as gospel because she's verified. All I'm trying to say but apparently failing miserably, is she is not the expert on the MR of today.

If his children do not see him, probably he is much the same as she described, IMO. Even Dylan was seeing under an order.

Lots of children choose to see a parent, even if the divorce was bitter.

 

[asyousay]

The news said nothing helpful was found from the search warrant on his house, true.

It's possible forensics were found in the car, but it's unlikely considering how quickly he got his truck back.

Only time will tell- but typically LE keep the vehicles far longer when there is evidence in them.

See i do not see this as a plus for MR because where was the prove that Dylan even arrived there?

Surely if Dylan had spent the night there would of been something there to prove it ?!, so finding nothing at all does not help MR imo

 

[Confusion]

I agree because DH gets ticked every time the kids come from out of state to visit and have cells glued to them at dinnertime, restaurants, family events, etc. We've had many "disagreements" about proper etiquette so I know how that could go... Also, DH just got ticked about son who hasn't been home to visit in a long while with grandkids and called his dad to tell him he'll be here for 3 days but 2 1/2 days are already planned out with "friends" and "others." I don't need to explain how that turned out...

I'm sorry to hear that, it must have been devastating to know your husband murdered your son - or did he get upset without doing that?:waitasec:

Yes Dylan would get out of the Truck!
Esp if dad smashed his phone!

He could open the door and dad would have to stop the truck dylan gets out dad follows...

And I do not think anyone drove by them but thats jmo.

That seems like a lot of coincidences to me. Dad just happened to get mad and smash the phone in an area where he could pull over when DR decides to open the door. Then, once he pulls over, he and DR both get out of the truck, the boy is beaten to death, and nobody drives by to witness anything. In addition, he doesn't get any blood or other forensic evidence in or on his truck (I assume they were gone over well after LE towed them away), and didn't receive any visible injuries. After all of that, it's also in a spot that nobody has thought to search for DR, and nobody has spotted him lying there along side the road. I would think there would have been some evidence if he chose to move the body.

As I said, that's a lot of coincidences. MOO

 

[katydid23]

Does anyone know if MR called or text Dylan in the morning on Monday while he ran his errands?

There were comments on the FDR FaceBook saying that he claims to have called Dylan three times that morning.

 

[PaulR]

I believe they do here. Target does.

Durango Walmart does not:
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20120703/NEWS01/707039956/0/FRONTPAGE/Walmart%E2%80%99s-alcohol-sales-suspended

The store has a 3.2-percent beer license. Under Colorado law, grocery and convenience stores cannot sell beer above 3.2 percent, liquor or wine.

There's also no McDonalds in this Walmart:
http://www.walmart.com/storeLocator/ca_storefinder_details_short.do?edit_object_id=2270

That took me about 30 seconds of Google'ing to find out.

 

[PaulR]

What makes you think hes any different today than when he was married to her?

Were you the same 15 years ago?

 

[DylansMom34]

Az is the only insider I am aware of on this case. And obviously the person with a knowledge of MR. She isn't an expert but her background and observations are helpful. She has been gracious and fair in her posts.

 

[white rabbit]

So there would have been evidence along Florida Road of such a struggle. There'd be blood or some kind of bodily fluid. There are also a lot of houses on that road, meaning nobody saw anything at 8pm on a Sunday evening.

Basically it requires a lot of coincidences to happen.

unless he turned off florida road onto 246 or 243...

 

[Abby Normal Again]

See i do not see this as a plus for MR because where was the prove that Dylan even arrived there?

Surely if Dylan had spent the night there would of been something there to prove it ?!, so finding nothing at all does not help MR imo

I'm not arguing that MR is innocent. I'm arguing that there is no evidence saying he is guilty or innocent.

So I'm not sure how this is supposed to school me. Unlike others who have this case figured out on virtually nothing, I'm not claiming to know anything for a fact.

 

[Darcyline]

See i do not see this as a plus for MR because where was the prove that Dylan even arrived there?

Surely if Dylan had spent the night there would of been something there to prove it ?!, so finding nothing at all does not help MR imo

They didn't say they did not find nothing at all-they said they found nothing helpful. That could just mean they didn't find blood spatter or decomp smell (I am assuming they had dogs in the house?). We already know some stuff said to be Dylan's was found at his house. Sorry if I was taking your nothing at all too literally.

 

[kkdj]

I honestly was not being snarky. AZG has verified poster for this case under her name. Some people, and yes I'm glad to have fresh eyes, may take her word as gospel because she's verified. All I'm trying to say but apparently failing miserably, is she is not the expert on the MR of today.

Ah, but we are who we basically are. IMO people don't change much from their basic character. I will value AZG opinion from her experience.

 

[Darcyline]

I really like how Abby is thinking right now (and others) because it is easy to say "oh it is so OBVIOUS what happened!" and I know that the basic premise may be obvious, but when you try to break apart the actual logistics it becomes less obvious.
I have a general feeling of who is guilty, but when I try to break it down into how and where all of my theories need a million weird coincidences to make them make sense and also explain nothing really being found in the most obvious crime scene locations.

 

[Eileen730]

Im sorry but I do not get the warm and fuzzies when i see MR or hear him talk.

I wish I saw what some of you do but I dont!
Seems to me he is the one with all the problems and they are lucky to be out of the relationships.

JMO

 

[vasportsmom]

Az is the only insider I am aware of on this case. And obviously the person with a knowledge of MR. She isn't an expert but her background and observations are helpful. She has been gracious and fair in her posts.

Well said. I don't think she takes ANY joy in saying that a man she loved, married and shares children with could be a murderer. It would have to be extremely difficult and painful to give voice to those fears. My heart goes out to her & Elaine for being willing to speak up despite inviting unwarranted criticism and speculation. IMO.

 

[kkdj]

Durango Walmart does not:
http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20120703/NEWS01/707039956/0/FRONTPAGE/Walmart%E2%80%99s-alcohol-sales-suspended


There's also no McDonalds in this Walmart:
http://www.walmart.com/storeLocator/ca_storefinder_details_short.do?edit_object_id=2270

That took me about 30 seconds of Google'ing to find out.

Ha! You beat me to it!
I meant that where I'm from they sell alcohol and have mcdonalds in them.

 

[Confusion]

If his children do not see him, probably he is much the same as she described, IMO. Even Dylan was seeing under an order.

Lots of children choose to see a parent, even if the divorce was bitter.

My niece and her ex have court ordered custody of their children. When they first divorced, they had joint custody (50/50) They lived in the same school district, and the boys could live at either place without their schooling being disrupted. They stayed at one place during the week and the other on weekends, and switched every other week to who had them during the week and who had them on weekends. When she got a new job and moved to a different area, they could no longer do that. They asked the boys what they wanted to do, and went to court to get the order changed.

The boys (now 16. 15 and 10) wanted to stay in the area their friends were in and didn't want to change schools, so they live primarily with their father and stepmother now. My niece has Court Ordered parenting time, which includes every other weekend, most holidays (they still live close enough for one to have Christmas Eve and the other Christmas Day), 6+ weeks during the summer, any other times that are convenient for all parties. Just because most of the visits are "court ordered" it doesn't mean that the boys are forced to go or even that they don't want to go. It just means that their mother (in this case, and father in DR's) has a legal right to see them then.

I have a feeling I'm not being clear in what I'm saying, but I don't really know how else to explain what I mean.

 

[scorekeeper]

I'm not any good with maps.

But when I google mapped county road 501 and county road 500, you can do the street view of 501 (it won't let you "walk up" County Road 500). If you "turn around" on the map you can see 500, it looks like there is a "no outlet" sign. Dylan was in a very secluded spot. County Road 500 looks like a one lane country road. Guess that's why they say "one way in and one way out".

I hope this makes sense, if it even matters....

 

[TxJan1971]

I'm sorry to hear that, it must have been devastating to know your husband murdered your son - or did he get upset without doing that?:waitasec:

He didn't murder him. I did.

 

[cluciano63]

My niece and her ex have court ordered custody of their children. When they first divorced, they had joint custody (50/50) They lived in the same school district, and the boys could live at either place without their schooling being disrupted. They stayed at one place during the week and the other on weekends, and switched every other week to who had them during the week and who had them on weekends. When she got a new job and moved to a different area, they could no longer do that. They asked the boys what they wanted to do, and went to court to get the order changed.

The boys (now 16. 15 and 10) wanted to stay in the area their friends were in and didn't want to change schools, so they live primarily with their father and stepmother now. My niece has Court Ordered parenting time, which includes every other weekend, most holidays (they still live close enough for one to have Christmas Eve and the other Christmas Day), 6+ weeks during the summer, any other times that are convenient for all parties. Just because most of the visits are "court ordered" it doesn't mean that the boys are forced to go or even that they don't want to go. It just means that their mother (in this case, and father in DR's) has a legal right to see them then.

I have a feeling I'm not being clear in what I'm saying, but I don't really know how else to explain what I mean.

I understand, but I was mostly focusing on the adult children who apparently do not see him at all, from what we have heard, anyway.

 

[asyousay]

They didn't say they did not find nothing at all-they said they found nothing helpful. That could just mean they didn't find blood spatter or decomp smell (I am assuming they had dogs in the house?). We already know some stuff said to be Dylan's was found at his house. Sorry if I was taking your nothing at all too literally.

Cheers


I still do not understand the whole taking his rucksack with him with most of his stuff in it as why would a kid want to carry around a bag all day when going off to fish at a lake or where he went to ? .

Another strange one for me that seems a tad off .

IMO