CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #21

[Eileen730]

So there would have been evidence along Florida Road of such a struggle. There'd be blood or some kind of bodily fluid. There are also a lot of houses on that road, meaning nobody saw anything at 8pm on a Sunday evening.

Basically it requires a lot of coincidences to happen.

Why would there have to be blood?
He had all day Monday to go pick up the stuff he maybe left behind phone included.
Look at the size of dad and then look at Dylan wouldnt take much.

and he could have pulled off the road and as i see it homes are set back off the roads and cant see.

This entire website is filled with threads about COINCIDENCES!

All JMO

 

[vasportsmom]

I'm sorry to hear that, it must have been devastating to know your husband murdered your son - or did he get upset without doing that?:waitasec:

He didn't murder him. I did.

Your research and organization skills are going to make you a very popular inmate. I will miss you though. Please write!

 

[scorekeeper]

Az is the only insider I am aware of on this case. And obviously the person with a knowledge of MR. She isn't an expert but her background and observations are helpful. She has been gracious and fair in her posts.

And I hope she feels welcome here and comes back and posts. Remember she told us that MR was a "smooth operator" and I think he still is.

I personally think MR enjoyed all the court proceedings....I mean 7 years?
Heck, that is 1/2 of Dylan's life...and MR did this with both ex-wives (so perhaps he hasn't changed much).

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

Were you the same 15 years ago?

Yea pretty much just a tad older!
Same disposition same demeanor! Same personality!
A little wiser!


How about you?

 

[cluciano63]

I'm sorry to hear that, it must have been devastating to know your husband murdered your son - or did he get upset without doing that?:waitasec:



That seems like a lot of coincidences to me. Dad just happened to get mad and smash the phone in an area where he could pull over when DR decides to open the door. Then, once he pulls over, he and DR both get out of the truck, the boy is beaten to death, and nobody drives by to witness anything. In addition, he doesn't get any blood or other forensic evidence in or on his truck (I assume they were gone over well after LE towed them away), and didn't receive any visible injuries. After all of that, it's also in a spot that nobody has thought to search for DR, and nobody has spotted him lying there along side the road. I would think there would have been some evidence if he chose to move the body.

As I said, that's a lot of coincidences. MOO

There are also a lot of coincidences in the idea that Dylan's phone must have stopped working, that he could find no way to contact R or simply chose not to, that he blew off keeping to their arrangements in order to sleep in, and that he finally dressed, ate cereal and took off with his things only to be abducted by a roaming pervert, all without leaving a note or calling anyone, but a lot of people are leaning that way too.

 

[dlc]

I'm sorry to hear that, it must have been devastating to know your husband murdered your son - or did he get upset without doing that?:waitasec:

He didn't murder him. I did.

I just have to say, TxJan1971, that you're a very gracious person.

 

[Eileen730]

I'm not any good with maps.

But when I google mapped county road 501 and county road 500, you can do the street view of 501 (it won't let you "walk up" County Road 500). If you "turn around" on the map you can see 500, it looks like there is a "no outlet" sign. Dylan was in a very secluded spot. County Road 500 looks like a one lane country road. Guess that's way they say "one way in and one way out".

I hope this makes sense, if it even matters....

Yes it does on many of the news sites ya see posts by ppl that live there and they have all said its a dead end place oney way in and one way out its been posted many times that there is not alot of traffic at all. Look at the homes they are set back off the roads...

 

[TxJan1971]

There are also a lot of coincidences in the idea that Dylan's phone must have stopped working, that he could find no way to contact R or simply chose not to, that he blew off keeping to their arrangements in order to sleep in, and that he finally dressed, ate cereal and took off with his things only to be abducted by a roaming pervert, all without leaving a note or calling anyone, but a lot of people are leaning that way too.

Thanks! I can erase my message since it's verbatim.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I understand, but I was mostly focusing on the adult children who apparently do not see him at all, from what we have heard, anyway.

I'm actually asking. Didn't the adult child in question make his own statement about trying to get to know his dad amidst trying to understand the loss of a brother?

I didn't get the impression that the grown child's own words said he had already chosen not to see him at all... I got the impression that he was trying to get to know a father he wasn't raised with- that he hadn't made a judgement about him yet.

I'm staying WAY far out of the discussion of whether or not ex-spouse is a good source of character judgment or not. I am NOT commenting or involving myself in that.

I am strictly speaking about what the adult child, himself, feels regarding MR, which I do think is mildly relevant.

 

[kkdj]

Were you the same 15 years ago?

Pretty much. Perhaps a little more set in my ways tho!
But maybe that's just me...

 

[TxJan1971]

I just have to say, TxJan1971, that you're a very gracious person.

Anyone got a bandaid for my tongue?

 

[asyousay]

From what i have read i do not think MR changed that much in 15 years.

The second time marriage does not sound any more successful than the first one and some of the behavior we have read is truly awful .

The fact that Cory and Dylan felt they have to protect there mum and take a swing at him does not paint a very nice image IMHO.

 

[PaulR]

Ha! You beat me to it!
I meant that where I'm from they sell alcohol and have mcdonalds in them.

Sorry. Yeah, my Walmart has a McDonalds, not sure if they sell liquor yet - it just became legal a few months ago.

Weird seeing Bulleit Rye at the Winco - but I wasn't complaining!

 

[scorekeeper]

Anyone got a bandaid for my tongue?

:silenced:

something like this or does it cover too much?

Hope you know I'm just kidding!

 

[PaulR]

Yea pretty much just a tad older!
Same disposition same demeanor! Same personality!
A little wiser!


How about you?

Very different. If you compared the two of us, you'd never guess we were the same person. That's not a "I was a bad person 15 years ago" statement, it's a "we act different and have a different outlook on life" statement.

 

[Confusion]

I understand, but I was mostly focusing on the adult children who apparently do not see him at all, from what we have heard, anyway.

I have a fantastic relationship with my 35 year-old son. My sister has told me many times that she's jealous of the fact that we can talk for hours about common interests. In spite of that, I haven't seen hm face-to-face in a few years, and maybe 3 or 4 times in the past 10+ years. He lives closer to me than MR's sons live/lived to him when they were younger, and even now IIRC. It would only be about a 7-7.5 hour drive round trip to visit, but we almost never do. If we saw this little of each other, and he was having it pounded into his head daily what a loser and lousy parent I was, I'm sure things would be a lot different now.

I've only heard one or two statements from NR about his relationship with MR, and they weren't really "bad". I haven't heard anything from NR's brother or sister either in support of MR or against him. What I have heard is other people (media and complete strangers, not just mothers and their friends/families) saying how much they and CR dislike their father, even though CR didn't act that way in public. I've also heard that he knows nothing about his grandchildren, and that his grandchildren dislike him. That tells me that opinions aren't necessarily based on MR's behavior, but at least in part on the opinions of other people. MOO

 

[Eileen730]

I'm not arguing that MR is innocent. I'm arguing that there is no evidence saying he is guilty or innocent.

So I'm not sure how this is supposed to school me. Unlike others who have this case figured out on virtually nothing, I'm not claiming to know anything for a fact.

Not one of us are claiming to know anything as fact we simply give our theories and our speculations.
MR was the last person with this child before he went missing he has not been ruled out by LE when LE clears this man ill move along but i dont think he will be ruled out JMO

 

[Abby Normal Again]

There are also a lot of coincidences in the idea that Dylan's phone must have stopped working, that he could find no way to contact R or simply chose not to, that he blew off keeping to their arrangements in order to sleep in, and that he finally dressed, ate cereal and took off with his things only to be abducted by a roaming pervert, all without leaving a note or calling anyone, but a lot of people are leaning that way too.

That's the point some of us are making

It seems WHATEVER happened, a series of circumstances lined up just right to enable it to play as it has. Unless we're missing a clearer and more obvious answer.

 

[vasportsmom]

From what i have read i do not think MR changed that much in 15 years.

The second time marriage does not sound any more successful than the first one and some of the behavior we have read is truly awful .

The fact that Cory and Dylan felt they have to protect there mum and take a swing at him does not paint a very nice image IMHO.

If we work solely with the things we can prove we don't need Az to be able to tell us that MR hasn't changed. His pattern of behavior with her clearly seems to have been repeated in his marriage to ER. From the constant court battles to the general disinterest in the children right down to the sudden demands for parenting time, he stayed true to the man she knew him to be. That isn't coincidence, IMO. MR seems to have a pretty set in stone character.

 

[kkdj]

Sorry. Yeah, my Walmart has a McDonalds, not sure if they sell liquor yet - it just became legal a few months ago.

Weird seeing Bulleit Rye at the Winco - but I wasn't complaining!

What is Bulleit Rye and Winco? Lol!