CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #21

[white rabbit]

wow...I had not mapped that before and it *is* interesting in that it's actually closer to Durango than it is to MR's home....

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=edge...h&hnear=Bayfield,+La+Plata,+Colorado&t=m&z=14

much closer. and there are other intersections en route to vallecito.

i wish ransom was here to shed some light. because IMO, they didn't choose that particular 'meeting ground' at random. they could easily have pinpointed that as the last known location (i.e. phone ping) of MR and/or dylan that night. he texted at or around 8:01pm...given their travel time and stop(s) at walmart and wherever else, that logistically could be possible.

so. now what.:waitasec:

 

[TxJan1971]

12-8-12

Lt. Ed Phippen wanted to reassure residents that the Sheriff’s Office “does not believe there is a sex offender abducting children” from the area.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/0/SEARCH/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan

 

[BritsKate]

OMG, I never implied you lied. But, your post expressed an opinion to me, if I am wrong give me a link that proves MR was the last person to see DR. That is all. No one here knows anything for sure. And if you do, please share it with all of us. tia

It would appear MSM believe MR was the last known person to see Dylan too, FWIW.

Dylan disappeared from his father's home in Vallecito. Vallecito is 20 minutes east of Durango. Dylan was visiting his father for Thanksgiving break. Mark Redwine was the last person to see his son.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/302104/339/Feds-search-missing-teens-dads-home

 

[scorekeeper]

12-8-12

Lt. Ed Phippen wanted to reassure residents that the Sheriff’s Office “does not believe there is a sex offender abducting children” from the area.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/0/SEARCH/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan

also from the article:

About 350 people, including more than 260 resident volunteers, participated in Saturday’s continuing search for missing 13-year-old Dylan Redwine. The organized searches focused on County Roads 240 and 501 and the areas around Lemon and Vallecito reservoirs

BBM

 

[vasportsmom]

12-8-12

Lt. Ed Phippen wanted to reassure residents that the Sheriff’s Office “does not believe there is a sex offender abducting children” from the area.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/0/SEARCH/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan

I wish we knew how or why they arrived at that conclusion. On its own it could mean so many different things. Darn it they know more than they are telling and I don't appreciate being excluded, lol.

 

[vasportsmom]

It would appear MSM believe MR was the last known person to see Dylan too, FWIW.


http://www.9news.com/news/article/302104/339/Feds-search-missing-teens-dads-home

Thanks for finding that. Here is another:

And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that. And he said he is helping in the search in any way he can.


http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22108222

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Beats me. ER SAID they had no relationship. Hadn't seen him in years (paraphrasing). Out of town all the time, etc. Not close. Didn't want to be there, etc.

I thought he had just seen him on the long Labor Day weekend. Mark said Dylan came and stayed 3-4 days with him.

IMO

 

[Seajay]

hi back at ya seajay.

i understand what everyone's saying, but my point remains the same...LE has RN's texts, MSM published them from whatever source (LE themselves or RN's family).

i'd like to see the same for MR. kwim?

You are suggesting that MR voluntarily supply them to MSM. I can see why that wouldn't happen on several levels. For one, maybe LE told him not to because that information is part of their ongoing investigation.

If MR is a private person, I can see him not even thinking about it, or maybe that it's none of their business and he can't see any reason to provide the media with anything.

In the position he's in, I can see him not wanting to say anything anymore, considering everything he's said thus far has either been deemed a lie or torn apart and dissected into oblivion, where it doesn't even resemble it's original form.

I honestly can't see any reason why he would even want to. It is not a clue to get his son back, so there is no need for the public to know what they entailed. JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks for finding that. Here is another:

And he is trying to deal with the added weight of knowing that some people think he had something to do with his son's disappearance because he was the last one to see him. He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that. And he said he is helping in the search in any way he can.


http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22108222

I dont even think he hired an attorney, imo. He may have consulted with one because after this article was written he was on one of the search teams with LE looking for Dylan so he sure wasnt shying away from LE.

If he had really hired an attorney concerning Dylan being missing I think a defense attorney would tell him to stay away from LE and not talk to them.

The lastest I heard they said he is continuing to cooperate. So to me that means he is still communicating with them and will go on any searches they may have for Dylan.

IMO

 

[white rabbit]

also from the article:

About 350 people, including more than 260 resident volunteers, participated in Saturday’s continuing search for missing 13-year-old Dylan Redwine. The organized searches focused on County Roads 240 and 501 and the areas around Lemon and Vallecito reservoirs

BBM

right...so why didn't the meeting of 350 people occur at that intersection?

they met miles (i don't know, about 6?) west at a random location, just outside durango...not vallecito nor lemon lake. IMO it wasn't a picnic area chosen at random. kwim?

 

[scorekeeper]

But after a few days, it was clear something was very wrong, and the investigation became more intense.


“We’re doing a lot better than in the first few days,” he said.


“We hear about these types of situations” across the country, but don’t expect it here,” Phippen said.


“We’re doing the best we can with the resources we have,” and now are prepared and capable of moving ahead with the investigation, he said. He said that, “God forbid” this happens again, local authorities will be more prepared to deal with it.

BBM


So he is saying they were in no way prepared for anything other than finding a "runaway". I know they are excellent at search and rescue but I do feel LE was at a
loss once they realized that wasn't the case....but they are better prepared now....

 

[imamaze]

Why is that relevant? This is not an either/or between the 2 parents. Elaine's innocence is a separate issue than the speculations about Mark and I don't understand the need to act as if that isn't the case. Only one parent was the last to see this child and only that parent had opportunity to disappear him. That is why only one parent was opened up for sleuthing purposes by admin so why is everything becoming a comparison between the two?

Its not relevant when either parent talked to the media and I think that's the point Paul was trying to make.

Nothing wrong with what has been posted imo

 

[MrsPC]

much closer. and there are other intersections en route to vallecito.

i wish ransom was here to shed some light. because IMO, they didn't choose that particular 'meeting ground' at random. they could easily have pinpointed that as the last known location (i.e. phone ping) of MR and/or dylan that night. he texted at or around 8:01pm...given their travel time and stop(s) at walmart and wherever else, that logistically could be possible.

so. now what.:waitasec:

if the area around Edgemont was the last ping...that would definitely be interesting.

Or, could it be where MR's phone pinged when Dylan's was off?

 

[cluciano63]

I dont even think he hired an attorney, imo. He may have consulted with one because after this article was written he was on one of the search teams with LE looking for Dylan so he sure wasnt shying away from LE.

If he had really hired an attorney concerning Dylan being missing I think a defense attorney would tell him to stay away from LE and not talk to them.

The lastest I heard they said he is continuing to cooperate. So to me that means he is still communicating with them and will go on any searches they may have for Dylan.

IMO

Has LE said anything about continued cooperation in the past 5-6 week?
Just wondering if he is still speaking to LE. I doubt we would know if he had ceased, since LE has said so little, other than that they do not believe there is an abductor on the loose.

 

[white rabbit]

You are suggesting that MR voluntarily supply them to MSM. I can see why that wouldn't happen on several levels. For one, maybe LE told him not to because that information is part of their ongoing investigation.

If MR is a private person, I can see him not even thinking about it, or maybe that it's none of their business and he can't see any reason to provide the media with anything.

In the position he's in, I can see him not wanting to say anything anymore, considering everything he's said thus far has either been deemed a lie or torn apart and dissected into oblivion, where it doesn't even resemble it's original form.

I honestly can't see any reason why he would even want to. It is not a clue to get his son back, so there is no need for the public to know what they entailed. JMO

seajay, the point was completely lost...my apologies. nevermind, with all due respect.

 

[imamaze]

I dont even think he hired an attorney, imo. He may have consulted with one because after this article was written he was on one of the search teams with LE looking for Dylan so he sure wasnt shying away from LE.

If he had really hired an attorney concerning Dylan being missing I think a defense attorney would tell him to stay away from LE and not talk to them.

The lastest I heard they said he is continuing to cooperate. So to me that means he is still communicating with them and will go on any searches they may have for Dylan.

IMO

I don't think he has either oceanblueeyes. He was also interviewsed by LE without and attorney.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

You are suggesting that MR voluntarily supply them to MSM. I can see why that wouldn't happen on several levels. For one, maybe LE told him not to because that information is part of their ongoing investigation.

If MR is a private person, I can see him not even thinking about it, or maybe that it's none of their business and he can't see any reason to provide the media with anything.

In the position he's in, I can see him not wanting to say anything anymore, considering everything he's said thus far has either been deemed a lie or torn apart and dissected into oblivion, where it doesn't even resemble it's original form.

I honestly can't see any reason why he would even want to. It is not a clue to get his son back, so there is no need for the public to know what they entailed. JMO

ITA!

I honestly think he doesnt owe the media or public anything. I have no doubt he has told LE everything and I think he continues to communicate with them most likely on a daily basis. He was even concerned one time when he didnt hear from them even though it was a weekend.

That may be happening on the internet but I have a feeling it isnt happening when it comes to LE and Mark Redwine and these agencies are the only ones that matter.

LOL! This seems to happen in every case we discuss. We want to know all the details and think it should come from the family members when LE will not speak of it due to the ongoing investigation.

All along Marlene Lamar knew the clothes and bag belonged to Sierra but she made sure the only thing she said was Sierra had one like that leaving it very vague when asked. The police did not want her coming out with details they wanted to keep private. Its the same in this case.

Frankly I havent seen Mark Redwine tell a lie. Imo he has been very forthright and honest.

IMO

 

[MrsPC]

interesting that the Edgemont picnic area is only 6.8 miles outside Durango from the McDonalds

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=...f9erinzpB8hRKc-hzECvfyKUf9erg&mra=ls&t=m&z=13

 

[cluciano63]

But after a few days, it was clear something was very wrong, and the investigation became more intense.


“We’re doing a lot better than in the first few days,” he said.


“We hear about these types of situations” across the country, but don’t expect it here,” Phippen said.


“We’re doing the best we can with the resources we have,” and now are prepared and capable of moving ahead with the investigation, he said. He said that, “God forbid” this happens again, local authorities will be more prepared to deal with it.

BBM


So he is saying they were in no way prepared for anything other than finding a "runaway". I know they are excellent at search and rescue but I do feel LE was at a
loss once they realized that wasn't the case....but they are better prepared now....

Sorry to say, but I think is true in many cases, I.e. LE not really knowing what to do from the start. This case seems to have begun badly, IMO.

 

[white rabbit]

ITA!

I honestly think he doesnt owe the media or public anything. I have no doubt he has told LE everything and I think he continues to communicate with them most likely on a daily basis. He was even concerned one time when he didnt hear from them even though it was a weekend.

That may be happening on the internet but I have a feeling it isnt happening when it comes to LE and Mark Redwine and these agencies are the only ones that matter.

LOL! This seems to happen in every case we discuss. We want to know all the details and think it should come from the family members when LE will not speak of it due to the ongoing investigation.

All along Marlene Lamar knew the clothes and bag belonged to Sierra but she made sure the only thing she said was Sierra had one like that leaving it very vague when asked. The police did not want her coming out with details they wanted to keep private. Its the same in this case.

Frankly I havent seen Mark Redwine tell a lie. Imo he has been very forthright and honest.

IMO

agree to disagree...