CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #21

[oceanblueeyes]

I don't think he has either oceanblueeyes. He was also interviewsed by LE without and attorney.

Happy New Year to a great Mod!:seeya:

He said in the end he knows he will be ok......and its not about him but finding Dylan. That means to me he knows he is innocent and needs no defense attorney and it will come to light one day. I just hope it doesnt take as long as it did in other cases where most were so sure the parent was involved.

IMO

 

[vasportsmom]

Even if we assume that MR is completely innocent his actions on the day that Dylan went missing become relevant and important for an entirely different set of reasons. At the very least Mark's absence from the house set the stage for Dylan to go missing.

What if Mark was late (or later than reported) getting back? An hours wait could have made the difference between an impatient boy waiting on dad for the promised ride and setting out on his own. Or when did Mark first text/call Dylan? Where was he? Could have expressed frustration with Dylan not answering his calls out loud and someone realizing that Dylan was home alone and taking advantage of that knowledge? Mark even remarking to a cashier, teller, etc that he was in a hurry because Dylan was waiting on him and he still had several stops to make could have provided the same opportunity to a bystander.

There is more reasons than targeting Mark to examine his actions on Monday and closely examining what he has said since then.

(ET change a word.)

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Sorry to say, but I think is true in many cases, I.e. LE not really knowing what to do from the start. This case seems to have begun badly, IMO.

How long did it take for the State Police and FBI to get involved.

That usually happens very quickly when a child goes missing.

IMO

 

[vasportsmom]

I dont even think he hired an attorney, imo. He may have consulted with one because after this article was written he was on one of the search teams with LE looking for Dylan so he sure wasnt shying away from LE.

If he had really hired an attorney concerning Dylan being missing I think a defense attorney would tell him to stay away from LE and not talk to them.

The lastest I heard they said he is continuing to cooperate. So to me that means he is still communicating with them and will go on any searches they may have for Dylan.

IMO

I have no idea about an attorney either way. I quoted that for the part about him being the last to see Dylan. My phone just selected the entire paragraph and I didn't want to fight with it to cut the extra out. That usually results in me copying nothing at all or the whole page.

 

[cluciano63]

How long did it take for the State Police and FBI to get involved.

That usually happens very quickly when a child goes missing.

IMO

I am not sure; but the length of time before forensically searching the house, when LE has since said they suspected a crime by about day 2, is inexplicable to me, no matter which agencies were involved at the time.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Even if we assume that MR is completely innocent his actions on the day that Dylan went missing become relevant and important for an entirely different set of reasons. At the very least Mark's absence from the house set the stage for Dylan to go missing.

What if Mark was late (or later than reported) getting back? An hours wait could have made the difference between an impatient boy waiting on dad for the promised ride and setting out on his own. Or when did Mark first text/call Dylan? Where was he? Could have expressed frustration with Dylan not answering his calls out loud and someone realizing that Dylan was home alone and taking advantage of that knowledge? Mark even remarking to a cashier, teller, etc that he was in a hurry because Dylan was waiting on him and he still had several stops to make could have provided the same opportunity to a bystander.

There is more reasons than crucifying Mark to examine his actions on Monday and closely examining what he has said since then.

I dont think he is legally guilty of anything nor do I think he will ever be charged with anything either but I could be wrong this time of course.

Dylan was 13 years old and old enough to be home alone, imo. What are the laws in CO where a child is old enough to stay by themselves? If he meets that age then MR is not responsible for what happened to Dylan.

Which parents were charged with anything when they had a child go missing?

If others wish to crucify Mark Redwine so be it. That their decision totally to make on their own. However; for myself I prefer to have substantiated evidence of any wrongdoing. I dont see any at this time but of course that is subject to change IF and when we are told something concrete by LE that would point in one direction or the other.

Now like a lot of parents he may feel guilt but that doesnt mean he illegally did anything to Dylan, imo

IMO

 

[TxJan1971]

How long did it take for the State Police and FBI to get involved.

That usually happens very quickly when a child goes missing.

IMO

BBM
Reported 11-23-12

They have contacted the FBI and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, he said.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/0/SEARCH/'He-would-have-called

 

[Confusion]

Has LE said anything about continued cooperation in the past 5-6 week?
Just wondering if he is still speaking to LE. I doubt we would know if he had ceased, since LE has said so little, other than that they do not believe there is an abductor on the loose.

No snark intended, but what HAS LE said in the past 5-6 weeks? Not enough to fill an address label from what I've seen.

Even if we assume that MR is completely innocent his actions on the day that Dylan went missing become relevant and important for an entirely different set of reasons. At the very least Mark's absence from the house set the stage for Dylan to go missing.

What if Mark was late (or later than reported) getting back? An hours wait could have made the difference between an impatient boy waiting on dad for the promised ride and setting out on his own. Or when did Mark first text/call Dylan? Where was he? Could have expressed frustration with Dylan not answering his calls out loud and someone realizing that Dylan was home alone and taking advantage of that knowledge? Mark even remarking to a cashier, teller, etc that he was in a hurry because Dylan was waiting on him and he still had several stops to make could have provided the same opportunity to a bystander.

There is more reasons than crucifying Mark to examine his actions on Monday and closely examining what he has said since then.

Examining his actions and statements would be one thing, but including stories about how he killed DR, where and why is another. I posted my own outline that included what was known, who may have been involved and what MAY have happened. I also did one with what he has stated, but I hope I have never insinuated that he, or anyone else, was responsible for the disappearance. I have thoughts about who could be responsible, but won't post them as accusations (even with a bunch of MOOs, IMOs, JMOs and whatnot included) unless and until there is more evidence that they're probable rather than just possible. I'm not talking about family, but there are several people who I see as possibly being involved. MOO

 

[Seajay]

seajay, the point was completely lost...my apologies. nevermind, with all due respect.

Oh, ok. Great posting with you again. WTH happened to the McStays? Who is the LISK? Was SG a victim or not? LOL

Just to add more confusion to an already confusing thread.

I just want Dylan to come home. I want him to be alive and I want him to be well. I don't want his father to have done anything to him or for some perv to have gotten his hands on him. I'm all for someone hiding him to make someone else look bad. I can live with that.

 

[vasportsmom]

I am not sure; but the length of time before forensically searching the house, when LE has since said they suspected a crime by about day 2, is inexplicable to me, no matter which agencies were involved at the time.

Me too. Once they knew a crime had been committed the possibility that the home was a crime scene (whether MR or an unknown abductor was involved) should have been at the top of their list for investigating.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I am not sure; but the length of time before forensically searching the house, when LE has since said they suspected a crime by about day 2, is inexplicable to me, no matter which agencies were involved at the time.

It seems to make no sense to anyone including Mark Redwine.

I sure dont understand it and I do think the FBI joined the case pretty early on.

imo

 

[imamaze]

Happy New Year to a great Mod!:seeya:

He said in the end he knows he will be ok......and its not about him but finding Dylan. That means to me he knows he is innocent and needs no defense attorney and it will come to light one day. I just hope it doesnt take as long as it did in other cases where most were so sure the parent was involved.

IMO

Aren't you sweet! Happy New Year to you too!!!

 

[Ransom]

much closer. and there are other intersections en route to vallecito.

i wish ransom was here to shed some light. because IMO, they didn't choose that particular 'meeting ground' at random. they could easily have pinpointed that as the last known location (i.e. phone ping) of MR and/or dylan that night. he texted at or around 8:01pm...given their travel time and stop(s) at walmart and wherever else, that logistically could be possible.

so. now what.:waitasec:

I believe the area was chosen because it afforded a mass amount of parking for all the volunteers. Even if 2-3 people in a vehicle, that's still a lot of cars that need to park off road safely. Plus many school buses were brought in the transport the folks hither and yon. Those buses need ingress and egress.

Similar to other cases where a church parking lot is used on a Saturday.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Has LE said anything about continued cooperation in the past 5-6 week?
Just wondering if he is still speaking to LE. I doubt we would know if he had ceased, since LE has said so little, other than that they do not believe there is an abductor on the loose.

I havent kept up with the case in awhile cluciano. I was emeshed in the CT shooting and getting ready for the holidays.

I dont even know when LE has spoken out last on this case?

But the last article I did read about 2-3 weeks ago they stressed again he was still fully cooperating and was not a suspect. This was after he said he talked to an attorney.

IMO

 

[scorekeeper]

right...so why didn't the meeting of 350 people occur at that intersection?

they met miles (i don't know, about 6?) west at a random location, just outside durango...not vallecito nor lemon lake. IMO it wasn't a picnic area chosen at random. kwim?

I thought it was because it was a big enough staging area for that many people and I also thought the owner offered them the area. They then had buses that took the search groups to pre-assigned locations.

Heck, all I know is that Dylan was last seen at Walmart :blushing:

 

[vasportsmom]

I dont think he is legally guilty of anything nor do I think he will ever be charged with anything either but I could be wrong this time of course.

Dylan was 13 years old and old enough to be home alone, imo. What are the laws in CO where a child is old enough to stay by themselves? If he meets that age then MR is not responsible for what happened to Dylan.

Which parents were charged with anything when they had a child go missing?

If others wish to crucify Mark Redwine so be it. That their decision totally to make on their own. However; for myself I prefer to have substantiated evidence of any wrongdoing. I dont see any at this time but of course that is subject to change IF and when we are told something concrete by LE that would point in one direction or the other.

Now like a lot of parents he may feel guilt but that doesnt mean he illegally did anything to Dylan, imo

IMO

Huh? Where is all that coming from? All I said was Mark's absence from the home set the stage for Dylan to go missing. Which means that if Mark had been home Dylan would not have needed to hitch hike nor would a random person have discovered that he was home alone and been free to abduct him. I made (and make) no judgment about leaving a 13yo child alone for a few hours. I do it with my own 12yo (not hours but 20-30 mins generally).

 

[Seajay]

ITA!

I honestly think he doesnt owe the media or public anything. I have no doubt he has told LE everything and I think he continues to communicate with them most likely on a daily basis. He was even concerned one time when he didnt hear from them even though it was a weekend.

That may be happening on the internet but I have a feeling it isnt happening when it comes to LE and Mark Redwine and these agencies are the only ones that matter.

LOL! This seems to happen in every case we discuss. We want to know all the details and think it should come from the family members when LE will not speak of it due to the ongoing investigation.

All along Marlene Lamar knew the clothes and bag belonged to Sierra but she made sure the only thing she said was Sierra had one like that leaving it very vague when asked. The police did not want her coming out with details they wanted to keep private. Its the same in this case.

Frankly I havent seen Mark Redwine tell a lie. Imo he has been very forthright and honest.

IMO

That's just it. LE doesn't owe us an explanation or answers, MR doesn't owe us anything. Neither of them owe MSM anything either.

Just because certain things haven't been reported and announced or released to the press, doesn't mean LE doesn't have the answers, it doesn't mean MR didn't tell LE what they wanted to know, it doesn't mean what has been released is ALL the information there is.

We have questions, lots of questions and we don't have answers. But that doesn't mean those answers weren't given to LE. Just because it appears MR isn't forthcoming with information because he hasn't spoken further with MSM, doesn't mean he hasn't full cooperated with LE. In fact, LE has gone on record 3 or 4 times now, stating that MR has been full cooperating.

And I imagine that LE has taken up a lot of MR's time with this investigating as tips have come in, and new questions have arisen.

Just because WE don't know stuff doesn't mean LE doesn't know it. It takes a lot of time to investigate a disappearance. This isn't Criminal Minds or SVU or Criminal Intent, where the crime gets committed, the investigation takes 30 minutes, they chase the criminal and arrest him within the hour.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBM
Reported 11-23-12

They have contacted the FBI and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, he said.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/0/SEARCH/'He-would-have-called

Thank you. So the FBI was already there in 3-4 days.

IMO

 

[DylansMom34]

We haven't received many comments regarding the case in weeks. So, yes, as of the beginning of December sometime, Mark had been cooperating with LE.

We haven't heard anything of substance since early December, either way. We don't know of any further search warrants of other properties; additional lie detector tests, grand jury investigations, etc. I just have to believe that law enforcement is investigating this case and putting it together the best they can. Dylan deserves nothing less than having justice and that whomever did this being prosecuted and locked up!

 

[Kmonci]

Oh, ok. Great posting with you again. WTH happened to the McStays? Who is the LISK? Was SG a victim or not? LOL

Just to add more confusion to an already confusing thread.

I just want Dylan to come home. I want him to be alive and I want him to be well. I don't want his father to have done anything to him or for some perv to have gotten his hands on him. I'm all for someone hiding him to make someone else look bad. I can live with that.

I think we all want the same thing - for Dylan to be alive and well and returned to his family. Regarding the statement in bold - not sure if you are implying that ER would go to these lengths to make MR look bad, but if so I have trouble buying into that scenario...I don't think it benefits her in the long run, nor does it benefit Dylan to be ripped from the left he has known and his freinds, etc for a life of hiding, just to spite MR. It seems like she would be cutting of her nose to spite her face, becuase it would mean she could not live with Dylan as her son anymore if he's in hiding. I mean, not saying people don't do strange things to get back at an EX but it seems farfetched because it seems like more things were going in her favor and she has the most to lose...she had primary custody, she was able to move with him, she's going to re-marry...I'd be more inclined to go along with this theory of hiding the boy out of spite if she were the non custodial parent. JMO.