CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

[sunni]

Yes, please!

On another note...I wonder if geocaching (is that still a thing?) is popular in or around Vallecito. I'm just thinking of possibilities...people who might be likely to notice or stumble upon something that could help find Dylan, even if organized searches per se don't.

IDK about Colorado but my DD is in Ohio, and addicted to geocaching.

She has an app on her iphone.

She keeps insisting I have to try it. But me being wary of (basically) everyone, and would be doing it by myself... I never have.

 

[SCHMAE]

Sorry, Schmae. I don't understand. They were called on November 23rd and came in on November 26th. Team Adam would have come in the day they were called, so November 23rd (I'm assuming they were also called on the 23rd, but they may have been called sooner).

That being said, it's always best to get them in day 1 or 2. The earlier the response, the better the results.

Oh no I'm sorry. I didn't realize they HAD been out. I thought someone was asking why they hadn't been called. So you're saying once FBI was out, in essence, their team called CARD a part of FBI, was out early on ? Correct? That clears it all up . I thought if they had not been out then could they even do any good if they came now .

 

[FruitTingles]

Browsing the "Missing, not forgotten" section here on WS makes one realize how many people are just never found. Where are they all?

I know :cry: Those cases really get to me. Especially Britt Drexell's.

I hope we never have to move over there for Dylan too. lease:

 

[FruitTingles]

We still have no news, leads or Dylan. And, I'm still pregnant :furious:
WTH

 

[The Cheese]

Oh no I'm sorry. I didn't realize they HAD been out. I thought someone was asking why they hadn't been called. So you're saying once FBI was out, in essence, their team called CARD a part of FBI, was out early on ? Correct? That clears it all up . I thought if they had not been out then could they even do any good if they came now .

It's the opposite - CARD comes in first, and then they call in any other FBI units they need like the BAU, and other federal agencies like US Marshals or whatever they need. Team Adam is usually on the scene before CARD.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Admin of the FB FMDR page says they are interviewing for PIs. While I like this idea, I'm wondering what a PI is able to do? Are they privy to the same records (employment/banking/cell phones, etc) or do they follow a POI and interview other folks? This is my first case with websleuths...I'm learning so much!

 

[aust amateur slueth]

We still have no news, leads or Dylan. And, I'm still pregnant :furious:
WTH

I suppose now isn't a good time to tell you that many women go over with their first. I went 8 days over.

your precious cargo will be delivered only when it suits her, best get used to it now because its going to be that way in the future too.

hot showers, lots of ahem, raspberry leaf tea and a good hot vindaloo

It would be nice if LE could catch a break with this case and locate Dylan.

be nice if the weather here cooled down, it's way too hot 1am and still near 30 celcius

 

[i8mypaint]

Yes, please!

On another note...I wonder if geocaching (is that still a thing?) is popular in or around Vallecito. I'm just thinking of possibilities...people who might be likely to notice or stumble upon something that could help find Dylan, even if organized searches per se don't.

I don't know in vallecito if it is, but my Daughter has done it where I am. (Denver-ish)

 

[ThePhantom]

I imagine a good PI will devote him/herself to uncovering every stone on a case. I'm sure some are more motivated/ethical/dedicated than others.

I'm not sure how long the FBI will devote its resources to a particular case.

There are plenty of cases that sit on officers/investigators' desks for years and years, and are periodically reviewed. The "lucky" cases attract certain dedicated souls who can't stop looking. Many others, I think, wind up going to the back of the line, so to speak, due to other new cases coming in. Then there's the matter of no new evidence -- if nothing new comes in, activity stops -- hopefully that's where a PI can be helpful, though I suppose they have time limits too.

That leaves the parents/family/friends to carry on the search, and hopefully generate new publicity to encourage authorities to reapply resources in a case.

 

[azgrandma]

Being capable of hurting a child is not equal to being capable of murdering the child. Did he ever come close to murdering one of his other kids? Has any of his other kids ever gone missing, where it turned out that he was responsible?

I know the argument is going to be that his temper got out of hand, or he didn't intend to hurt him so badly and yada, yada, but... I can't understand the basis for two ex-wives saying he is capable of murdering, or even hurting a child severely, if he's never done it before.

Is there any record anywhere of one of his kids having to seek medical attention because of him hurting them severely enough that it could have caused death??
It sounds to me like one of his kids beat him so severely at one time that HE needed medical attention. And I don't care about hearing the justifications of it, but the records, IIRC, shows that HE didn't hurt his son, his son hurt HIM, enough to render him unconscious. Doesn't sound too much to me like HE is the one with murderous tendencies. JMO.

BBM, a person does not have to hurt a child severely enough to cause medical attention in order to have a history of domestic violence. They just have to hurt a child once and that is wrong.

You do something once, it can be looked at as a mistake. If you do it twice then it is a choice.

 

[PaulR]

BBM, a person does not have to hurt a child severely enough to cause medical attention in order to have a history of domestic violence. They just have to hurt a child once and that is wrong.

You do something once, it can be looked at as a mistake. If you do it twice then it is a choice.

OK then. Do we have any records that MR physically hurt his kids at all?

 

[rebeccaeee]

BBM, a person does not have to hurt a child severely enough to cause medical attention in order to have a history of domestic violence. They just have to hurt a child once and that is wrong.

You do something once, it can be looked at as a mistake. If you do it twice then it is a choice.

More than twice and I might call it a pattern!

Many people in abusive relationships are hesitant to report abuse, particularly of children, for fear of either more abuse or having their children removed from the home. You do not need a conviction for child abuse to be the kind of parent that hits their children. And sure, most parents who hit their children do not go on to murder them. But I'm willing to bet there isn't a murderer out there who NEVER laid a hand on their child until the last time. Sweeping generalizations are all mine.

 

[Kimster]

this thread will be locked for a cooling off period... if you have the word YOU in your post that means you are addressing a poster and not the post. If you want to discuss something do so with respect and without attacking. also a reminder that we do not discuss other forums here at websleuths.

Following up on Nurse's post above - let's move on from the front yard. This is not a contest to see who is the better parent. It is a discussion thread for trying to find Dylan. Let's get back to that, okay, and stop poking at each other. It just isn't necessary.

Thanks,

Salem

resume the discussion... but everyone who has not done so, please review all alerts under the opening post. Please post responsibly.

For those who weren't around last night - like me! - please review!

 

[NC Analyzer]

OK then. Do we have any records that MR physically hurt his kids at all?

You won't find "records" in the majority of cases where a parent physically hurts their child.

 

[azgrandma]

For those who weren't around last night - like me! - please review!

Thank you very much! I posted something and it looks as if was taken down, thank you to whomever did that!

 

[azgrandma]

OK then. Do we have any records that MR physically hurt his kids at all?

I do.

 

[SCHMAE]

I do.

:what: Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ?

 

[MrsPC]

I do.

have you been questioned by La Plata law enforcement or any law enforcement involved with Dylan's disappearance regarding MR? or have you contacted them to offer any info?

 

[PaulR]

I do.

Interesting. Can you share these records?

 

[scorekeeper]

I do.

I gather the records you have are from Child Protective Services and those records are not normally public records.....but I could be wrong...

JMO/MOO