CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

[cluciano63]

Dylan is not a four-year old child, but a male teenager. Yes, of course, anyone can be taken at gunpoint, etc. but i just find it less likely that he was scooped up like a sack of potatoes, no signs of struggle, no clues, etc. It CAN happen, almost anything can happen, but it does not work as a scenario for me, IMO.

And no, that does not mean i rule it out completely, but it is much further down on my list than something much closer to home and more personal.

 

[Seajay]

Curiosity killed the cat and all, but then what? Did y'all follow her and make sure she got home?

She came from the cottage next door. She went back out and reunited with her brothers. All the kids were out playing.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Discussion about cases going cold got me thinking about some things...

I hate when a case seems cold and you don't wanna leave but you have nothing you feel you can contribute. Example for me is Lauren Spierer. I follow relevant twitter feeds and the blog, but I rarely go on the threads because it just hurts my head. But having closely followed cases that did get resolved, like Mickey Shunick, Autumn, Jessica R...I feel like if Lauren's body ever is found, I don't know how I will deal. I dont know her or her family but in my own small way i am devoted to them.

When I was following the scanner for Jessica R apparently around the time she was found, I was initially so relieved, and I had a bit of an adrenaline buzz going on because I was very "in the zone" transcribing, so it buffered the sadness and disgust for a while. But then it hit me...totally obvious but it was like a sick epiphany for me...while I was sitting in my cozy apartment, going to kickboxing, joking around with my labmates, or whatever, Jessica was dying. it took my damn breath away.

It wasn't at all what I expected to feel, is all. I thought I would be more relieved and more glad that justice was in sight. I don't know how you all hang in there for these cases when the answers to all our questions seem to be so painful.

 

[vasportsmom]

Dylan is not a four-year old child, but a male teenager. Yes, of course, anyone can be taken at gunpoint, etc. but i just find it less likely that he was scooped up like a sack of potatoes, no signs of struggle, no clues, etc. It CAN happen, almost anything can happen, but it does not work as a scenario for me, IMO.

And no, that does not mean i rule it out completely, but it is much further down on my list than something much closer to home and more personal.

I just can't buy that he set out with his bag, all his stuff, and a fishing pole in the cold without ruling out other possibilities for a ride first. He went silent at 8pm and never spoke to another person before setting out on a long walk in the cold 12 hours later?

 

[PaulR]

Dylan is not a four-year old child, but a male teenager. Yes, of course, anyone can be taken at gunpoint, etc. but i just find it less likely that he was scooped up like a sack of potatoes, no signs of struggle, no clues, etc. It CAN happen, almost anything can happen, but it does not work as a scenario for me, IMO.

I think it's more likely that Dylan would have thought he was safe when accepting a ride from a "friendly driver" and then found himself in trouble.

 

[asyousay]

Dylan taking his bag is just another one that does not make sense .

So he did not unpack and just took all his stuff with him , why would he want to do that ?

 

[cluciano63]

I think it's more likely that Dylan would have thought he was safe when accepting a ride from a "friendly driver" and then found himself in trouble.

Yes, possible, but then we are back to the only person driving along happens to be a kidnapper/murderer and/or pervert. Again, low on my personal list.

 

[Seajay]

Originally Posted by cluciano63
Dylan is not a four-year old child, but a male teenager. Yes, of course, anyone can be taken at gunpoint, etc. but i just find it less likely that he was scooped up like a sack of potatoes, no signs of struggle, no clues, etc. It CAN happen, almost anything can happen, but it does not work as a scenario for me, IMO.

And no, that does not mean i rule it out completely, but it is much further down on my list than something much closer to home and more personal.

That's not why I posted my story. It's relevance is CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY. It's relevance is anything can happen when you aren't expecting it. I'm fully aware Dylan isn't 4 years old. I never said he was. What I was talking about was how easily a situation could arise where someone becomes vulnerable without realizing it and if the wrong person is around, it could cost them their life.

 

[Seajay]

Dylan taking his bag is just another one that does not make sense .

So he did not unpack and just took all his stuff with him , why would he want to do that ?

He left some thing behind according to the links that have been provided several times. He didn't take everything.

 

[vasportsmom]

He left some thing behind according to the links that have been provided several times. He didn't take everything.

Only MR has made that claim.

 

[asyousay]

He left some thing behind according to the links that have been provided several times. He didn't take everything.

I have seen Somebody on here mention one pair of tracksuit bottoms were left before .

So my point still stands as that hardly lightened his load . Leaving behind one item of clothing .

It makes no sense him carrying around all his stuff .

 

[cluciano63]

That's not why I posted my story. It's relevance is CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY. It's relevance is anything can happen when you aren't expecting it. I'm fully aware Dylan isn't 4 years old. I never said he was. What I was talking about was how easily a situation could arise where someone becomes vulnerable without realizing it and if the wrong person is around, it could cost them their life.

I did not mean to point out my reply in response to your story. I have just read so many posts about Dylan being plucked off the road, almost as though he was a rabbit taken by a swooping eagle. I just see him as a savvy, almost 14-year old boy, not a totally gullible child at least. Of course, anything could have happened to him and i hope all possibilities are being considered. I just have my own personal list, ranked by my own opinions of most to least likely, that's all.

 

[cluciano63]

I have seen Somebody on here mention one pair of tracksuit bottoms were left before .

So my point still stands as that hardly lightened his load . Leaving behind one item of clothing .

It makes no sense him carrying around all his stuff .

I thought it was said that a pair of sweat pants was taken in the search, perhaps, but not who they belonged to.

 

[LotusPawprint]

New article today:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...ase?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter



The number of tips from the public coming into La Plata County Sheriff’s Office, have dropped from several dozen per day to an average of 2 to 3 per day.

[...]

Family members continue to cooperate with investigators.



eta:
Some evidence sent to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation has been processed and returned to La Plata County Sheriff’s Office. Information regarding that evidence will not be released since the investigation remains active


Go read more so I don't exceed the "posting TMI from the article" rule.

 

[Skbale]

Recent news article gives slight new info, but nothing of substance.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/dylan-redwine-tips-dwindle-cbi-processes-evidence-in-case

 

[LotusPawprint]

"Interesting" most recent comment posted on the Find Dylan FB page by SCN....

 

[Confusion]

I did not mean to point out my reply in response to your story. I have just read so many posts about Dylan being plucked off the road, almost as though he was a rabbit taken by a swooping eagle. I just see him as a savvy, almost 14-year old boy, not a totally gullible child at least. Of course, anything could have happened to him and i hope all possibilities are being considered. I just have my own personal list, ranked by my own opinions of most to least likely, that's all.

I'm not really sure where the description of savvy comes from, but I think he seems like a rather innocent, or at least naive, person. He has grown up in a fairly safe, crime-free area where he knew most/many people. He felt comfortable enough to just stick out his thumb to get a ride for him and his friends, and it was reinforced by them just getting a ride home. In addition to that, being "savvy" (street smart) doesn't mean being immune to abduction or murder. I really doubt that many people would describe prostitutes as gullible, but they seem to be a very popular target. I don't think there's anything wrong with trusting people you've grown up around who have never done anything (that you know about) to make you mistrust them. Whether he was trying to hitch a ride or not, I don't see gullibility playing into it. MOO

 

[PaulR]

Yes, possible, but then we are back to the only person driving along happens to be a kidnapper/murderer and/or pervert. Again, low on my personal list.

That would be true if Dylan was taken at gunpoint. In fact taken at gunpoint would be even more unlikely as it risks drivers passing by seeing the confrontation.

Of course that hasn't stopped people being kidnapped this way before.

 

[asyousay]

"Interesting" most recent comment posted on the Find Dylan FB page by SCN....

Is the picture posted meant to be of the lake?

 

[Confusion]

Are we allowed to discuss comments on the FB page? I hate FB! The rules about it here keep my brain in turmoil for some reason. :banghead: