CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

[vasportsmom]

Are we allowed to discuss comments on the FB page? I hate FB! The rules about it here keep my brain in turmoil for some reason. :banghead:

I don't think we can discuss the comments by others but we can direct each other to look at them right?

I stay confused too and never look at the page unless we are pointed there or someone on my friend's list comments or likes a comment.

 

[DylansMom34]

Is she wanting to cash in on the reward money? or is she just interested in helping find Dylan. I am just about always skeptical of people complaining that their offer of help was "ignored"

 

[cluciano63]

It is my understanding we are allowed to paraphrase comments from public FB pages, just not copy or paste anything.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I had posted about that earlier, I'll add the link to the post when I get done here. You can't follow pings after the fact. They're used more for tracking where a phone is, and where it's going, not for where it's been.

ETA link

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #23

The problem is that they would have to be checking for pings before Dylan was missing (or at least reported missing).

ETA: They could find out where the phone was when the texts were sent and received, but not while it wasn't in use.

The following PDF is to give factual evidence showing that it is FALSE that pings can only be tracked in present time, rather than going back and retracing pings..

absolutely you can and the courts in many cases do go back and trace the cell phones movement during the time in question..this tracing done via "pings", NOT GPS..

PINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY TRACED BACK AFTER THE FACT..

the PDF is just a basis of which to show that the ability to GO BACK IN TIME to trace cell phone pings is absolutely doable AND regularly used in investigations...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...jrc4lt7Don819ws8DtU1g&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU

 

[vasportsmom]

Facebook is great for sharing info with the public but if you have important info for LE then FB is hardly the best or most appropriate place to post it. I question the motives of anyone the chooses FB as their medium for getting out "important, time sensitive" information.

 

[Teche]

I think in the Mickey in Lafayette LA. case, a PI helped to solve it. Right?

ETA: Sorry Nurse, I didnt see your post until now. :angel:

I'm from the Acadiana area. There was a PI involved in the case, if my memory is correct, the brother of BSL's girlfriend provided credible information early on to LE. This was after the video/description of the truck was released. Many, many of our residents are employed in the oil field/oil service industry. The area is flooded with white work trucks.

 

[Confusion]

The following PDF is to give factual evidence showing that it is FALSE that pings can only be tracked in present time, rather than going back and retracing pings..

absolutely you can and the courts in many cases do go back and trace the cell phones movement during the time in question..this tracing done via "pings", NOT GPS..

PINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY TRACED BACK AFTER THE FACT..

the PDF is just a basis of which to show that the ability to GO BACK IN TIME to trace cell phone pings is absolutely doable AND regularly used in investigations...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...jrc4lt7Don819ws8DtU1g&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU

I have read it. Thank you for pointing out the difference of opinion.
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[LotusPawprint]

I don't know how families of missing people deal with folks who come out to exploit them... I really don't, thank goodness there are good friends and family to surround and help but it's so disturbing there's an industry of exploiters who have no problem and no conscience "helping" families at their most vulnerable.


o/t (kind of): There was a woman who exploited the Sandy Hook elementary shooting... she set up a paypal account soliticiting donations, saying she was related to one of the little victims, getting really descriptive. Horrible. When confronted by CNN her excuse was: "I was framed by my enemies in the online crafting community." SICK! She also exploited Hurricane Sandy victims. The Feds are going after her. Ugh.

 

[katydid23]

That's not why I posted my story. It's relevance is CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY. It's relevance is anything can happen when you aren't expecting it. I'm fully aware Dylan isn't 4 years old. I never said he was. What I was talking about was how easily a situation could arise where someone becomes vulnerable without realizing it and if the wrong person is around, it could cost them their life.

But your example of the 4 yr old is not an example where she could have disappeared without anyone realizing what happened. As you said, she was playing outside the next door cabin with her brothers. If she had not left your cabin, and returned home, surely they would have come to your door looking for her. KWIM?

 

[Confusion]

But your example of the 4 yr old is not an example where she could have disappeared without anyone realizing what happened. As you said, she was playing outside the next door cabin with her brothers. If she had not left your cabin, and returned home, surely they would have come to your door looking for her. KWIM?

Then again, what if she had been playing alone?

 

[LotusPawprint]

Facebook is great for sharing info with the public but if you have important info for LE then FB is hardly the best or most appropriate place to post it. I question the motives of anyone the chooses FB as their medium for getting out "important, time sensitive" information.

ITA and just a guess but I'm pretty sure LE would have taken credible, important, time sensitive information/tips/leads/dreams into account.
Don't they even look at some mildly outrageous but potentially plausible tips too?
If they turned something down and said "thanks now be on your way", it probably wasn't helpful. Who knows though, maybe a little doodle posted on facebook that was rejected by the FBI will solve the case? :waitasec:

 

[asyousay]

Then again, what if she had been playing alone?

It still does not compare when Dylan was 13 and physical able to put up a fight if somebody tried to grab him.


From the little we know there are no signs of any struggle which would be strange if it happened around the house.

 

[katydid23]

Then again, what if she had been playing alone?

True, but 4 yr olds usually have someone nearby keeping an eye on them. Not always though, unfortunately. But if she was staying in the cabin next door, you can bet that your cabin would be searched and you would be interviewed and they would probably bring the dogs in too.

 

[Confusion]

It still does not compare when Dylan was 13 and physical able to put up a fight if somebody tried to grab him.


From the little we know there are no signs of any struggle which would be strange if it happened around the house.

Could you please point me to anywhere in that post that I even mentioned him?

 

[katydid23]

It still does not compare when Dylan was 13 and physical able to put up a fight if somebody tried to grab him.


From the little we know there are no signs of any struggle which would be strange if it happened around the house.

I don't believe he was grabbed by a stranger, although it is certainly possible.

But I do wonder if a creepy neighbor or a 'family friend' might have seen Dad's truck leaving earlier, and saw their opportunity to visit Dylan alone. That is the only way that D would willingly grab all of his stuff and get in their vehicle, imo.

I wonder if MR has thought hard about EVERYONE who knew his son was coming for Thanksgiving week.

 

[Confusion]

True, but 4 yr olds usually have someone nearby keeping an eye on them. Not always though, unfortunately. But if she was staying in the cabin next door, you can bet that your cabin would be searched and you would be interviewed and they would probably bring the dogs in too.

I agree, but I obviously didn't make my point clear. :blushing: I was just trying to say that if she had been alone before going to a neighbor's cabin, they could have done anything (including moving her to a different location) before the family started looking for her. Even when they did, their cottage couldn't be search without a warrant, so all they'd have to do is offer to help look and get rid of her later (or one help and the other get rid of her if there was more than one person.)

 

[asyousay]

I've been spending too much time at WS. Let me tell you what happened yesterday. We are at a cottage on the beach. They are rentals. Hubby and I were in the kitchen cooking when all of a sudden the screen door opened and this little girl about 4 years old came walking in. We were stunned. We said hi to her but she didn't say a word. She walked past us, past the kitchen table, into the hall, past the bathroom and into the bedroom and shut the door. I told Hubby is was going to go get her before she locked us out of the bedroom. So I opened the door and asked her what she was doing. Without a word, she walks past me, the bathroom, the kitchen table and out the sliding glass door whence she came. Hubby and I both looked at each other and started cracking up.

Later I told him, see, if this cottage had been rented by a perv, that little girl would have disappeared never to be seen again and no one would know what happened to her.

Crimes of opportunity, just like that. If Dylan was out front with his stuff, waiting for his father and someone came along, in a flash Dylan could have been taken.

Could you please point me to anywhere in that post that I even mentioned him?

Sorry i thought you was the original poster of that message. Which mentioned Dylan .

 

[LotusPawprint]

I can't see it on fb. Can someone give me a date time that it was posted and if it is a comment on FMDR fb or tagged to it from the posters own wall. TIA

It was posted about an hour ago (that's what it says - not me being vague! lol) it's a comment by SCN under "Recent posts by Others".

Do you see it?

 

[asyousay]

I don't believe he was grabbed by a stranger, although it is certainly possible.

But I do wonder if a creepy neighbor or a 'family friend' might have seen Dad's truck leaving earlier, and saw their opportunity to visit Dylan alone. That is the only way that D would willingly grab all of his stuff and get in their vehicle, imo.

I wonder if MR has thought hard about EVERYONE who knew his son was coming for Thanksgiving week.

So nothing like this has happened in the area before * i remember somebody trying to find crimes like this from the area* and this random person starts with Dylan ?

I still don't personally see it .

 

[Seajay]

Sorry i thought you was the original poster of that message. Which mentioned Dylan .

I was talking about crimes of opportunity. Not 13 year olds, not witnesses. Think I won't share things that happen to me in the future that reminds me of this case.