CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #24

[balaney]

Maybe they were headed to a different home (of dads) when something went wrong. Have they searched his other home? Did they search lakes and ponds near his other home?

 

[Seajay]

Which Elaine denies

And she knows this because she lived in that house???? She also said that cell service was "spotty" there IIRC. Are we going to consider that part of what she said???

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

IMO - the fact the DR went missing immediately (and not a situation where he just didn't return home at the end of the trip) and that there were no def T'day plans indicates it was premeditated. Maybe it was done immediately so that the perp didn't lose his nerve (by spending too much time with DR and feeling too bonded to make him disappear).

That's a pretty big assumption.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I wonder how much food was purchased at Walmart. Was it enough for a man and a boy for a week including T'day, or was it just to get through a day or so? That would shed light on intent/premeditation.

Weird that, since MR had an extra day to prepare for DR's arrival, after the Sat night flight got delayed, that MR had not done any food shopping for the boy's visit until he actually arrived.

Well he kind of lived out in the boonies. I don't think there's any major stores in the area. Most people that live in more remote locations plan their trips into the city and get everything done at once. At least that's been my experience. I don't think it's strange at all that he waited to do the shopping.
1. he would probably want Dylan with him so he could pick out things he wanted.
2. It's a 45 minute drive into Durango. Why make a special trip when he knew he could do it all at the same time he picked Dylan up.

 

[kkdj]

I am not at all experienced but even I know MR's story makes no sense . It is full of holes <Mod Snip>.


MOO

...and ER knows it and knew it from the getgo.
Jmo

 

[mijamawi]

IMO - the fact the DR went missing immediately (and not a situation where he just didn't return home at the end of the trip) and that there were no def T'day plans indicates it was premeditated. Maybe it was done immediately so that the perp didn't lose his nerve (by spending too much time with DR and feeling too bonded to make him disappear).

IMO anyone who premeditates the murder of their child is IMO a pretty cold person and likely wouldn't bond with their victim. IMO Also, considering that there's no evidence that we know of and the constant hashing of the cell phone activity, surely he would smart enough to have covered that in his evil plotting. JMO

 

[mmmagique]

I wonder how much food was purchased at Walmart. Was it enough for a man and a boy for a week including T'day, or was it just to get through a day or so? That would shed light on intent/premeditation.

Weird that, since MR had an extra day to prepare for DR's arrival, after the Sat night flight got delayed, that MR had not done any food shopping for the boy's visit until he actually arrived.

Not necessarily. I may buy a few food items at Walmart, but most of my food is purchased elsewhere. I wouldn't necessarily draw any conclusions from the amount of food purchased unless he didn't buy any after claiming he did.

Also, I wouldn't put much emphasis on not going shopping before his boy arrived. I don't like to make special trips somewhere if I know I'll be nearby in a day or two.

 

[dlc]

It looks to me like Elaine is unsure about texting at Mark's place. She says "seemed to" "seem like". She doesn't state it declaratively -

GRACE: What`s this business about bad cell reception in that area? Was there bad cell reception? Did you have a problem hearing from him back on Labor Day, the last time he had visited his dad?

REDWINE: You know, there is bad cell reception, but texts always seemed to come through. So while you can`t necessarily speak with someone on the phone...

GRACE: That`s true.

REDWINE: ... it doesn`t seem like I ever had an issue getting texts from Dylan up there.

Many of us don't speak in the same tone as others.

 

[Cardinal47]

Please forgive me if this has already been asked, but are there any further searched planned for this month?

Also, it is safe to assume that in an investigation like this extended family members and friends have been interviewed? is that part of what the FBI does?

And, does anyone know if police depts throughout the country would have Dylan's image and pertinent details about his case?

Thanks.

As far as the searching last I heard there was a lot of snow on the ground and bitter cold. Some of the locals might tell us how long that will last.

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Bayfield+CO+81122

I am just guessing but I don't think they will be able to search again til Spring.

 

[Cardinal47]

In my mind, my questions aren't concerning Thanksgiving entrees, they are simply availability of food for a 13 year old to eat while he is staying with his dad in an isolated location.

Concerning Thanksgiving specifically, I really don't care WHAT they eat, just that they DO eat and that there was care for Dylan involved in the planning for that.

And yes, I know some people have pointed out that some "men" just don't pay attention to those basic needs. I fortunately have know many men who do; they are quite caring and nurturing. Maybe that is why I notice the difference between nurturing and indifference. We don't know which way MR leaned, if there was a leaning at all. I'd love to know though.

Any behaviors MR exhibited that point to his being a caring and loving father would be MOST welcome.

MR was taking Dylan from his mothers home for Thanksgiving. A family holiday. He had no plans for them other than they 'might' drive 6 hours to his brothers house to eat dinner.

That just never set right with me.

 

[mmmagique]

IMO anyone who premeditates the murder of their child is IMO a pretty cold person and likely wouldn't bond with their victim. IMO Also, considering that there's no evidence that we know of and the constant hashing of the cell phone activity, surely he would smart enough to have covered that in his evil plotting. JMO

The majority of criminals (or people who have committed crimes either accidentally or on purpose) aren't as bright as they seem to think they are.

 

[dlc]

Can we stop with the attacks on other posters? I thought that was made clear on page one of this thread.

I agree. I'd take it even further, and ask that some of the sarcasm, and the authoritative, condescending, tone be cooled down too. This is harder to catch for the mods (God bless 'em) but also squelches conversation/sharing. IMO.

Thank you.

 

[Darcyline]

MR was taking Dylan from his mothers home for Thanksgiving. A family holiday. He had no plans for them other than they 'might' drive 6 hours to his brothers house to eat dinner.

That just never set right with me.

MR is Dylan's family too. If it was his turn to the holiday he has a right to see his son. Mom's don't automatically get full custody and every holiday just by virtue of being a mom.
Yes, it sucks and it sounds harsh, but this is something many, many, many broken families have to deal with on a regular basis.

 

[Cardinal47]

IMO - the fact the DR went missing immediately (and not a situation where he just didn't return home at the end of the trip) and that there were no def T'day plans indicates it was premeditated. Maybe it was done immediately so that the perp didn't lose his nerve (by spending too much time with DR and feeling too bonded to make him disappear).

Honestly I don't think MR intended on spending much time with Dylan at all. Dylan was all set to spend DAD time with his friends. Couldn't wait to get there. Wanted to go from the airport to their home.

Dad couldn't wait to get back to his attorneys office for whatever. Had it all set up for the next morning. Dylan to fend for himself if he was even there which I seriously doubt.

I think this visit was one of those court battles that MR won.

I just don't get a warm, fuzzy feeling about the relationship these two had and especially hearing and reading that all three older sons have nothing to do with him.

Sad but true...courts should listen to kids. Sometimes they know best.

 

[The Cheese]

Many of us don't speak in the same tone as others.

True. But that's not how Elaine always phrases things. In fact, that's the only time in that interview when she uses "seem".

 

[rebeccaeee]

MR was taking Dylan from his mothers home for Thanksgiving. A family holiday. He had no plans for them other than they 'might' drive 6 hours to his brothers house to eat dinner.

That just never set right with me.

Can't believe I am defending MR here but parents with work and school age kids have to seize the opportunities where both are available. Dylan was out of school for the week (http://lewispalmer.schoolfusion.us/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/917157/File/SY Cal 12-13.pdf) and perhaps MR was not working. Despite ER's family plans, MR probably seized a window of time when he and Dylan were available to seek visitation.

Or MR was being a big pain in the butt ex looking to disrupt ER's plans. Entirely possible.

 

[kkdj]

MR was taking Dylan from his mothers home for Thanksgiving. A family holiday. He had no plans for them other than they 'might' drive 6 hours to his brothers house to eat dinner.

That just never set right with me.

I don't know how organized MR thinks in terms of what to do when someone visits, but one would certainly expect if he went to court to have Dylan with him on a holiday, he would have made plans for the holiday to be a special time together. Otherwise, why be so insistent on a holiday?
Jmo

 

[mmmagique]

MR is Dylan's family too. If it was his turn to the holiday he has a right to see his son. Mom's don't automatically get full custody and every holiday just by virtue of being a mom.
Yes, it sucks and it sounds harsh, but this is something many, many, many broken families have to deal with on a regular basis.

Absolutely. But as a loving parent, there's been times I've spent holidays alone, because my child was invited to a big to do at his dad's family's house, and I didn't have any family in the area. I wouldn't keep him from that, just for me. Plus I figure, the holiday isn't really any certain "day", we can always make our own.

 

[Seajay]

I don't know how organized MR thinks in terms of what to do when someone visits, but one would certainly expect if he went to court to have Dylan with him on a holiday, he would have made plans for the holiday to be a special time together. Otherwise, why be so insistent on a holiday?
Jmo

I think it could have had more to do with spending the week with him rather than the actual "holiday" with him. Dylan goes to school. He had that time off school for a week. It gives Mark the chance to see his son and spend some time with him, as per his plans about bowling, etc. I think he just wanted to hang out with him and give him the opportunity to see his buddies.

I doubt it was about cooking a turkey and all the trimmings. That's such a girl thing and so not a man thing.

 

[mmmagique]

I think it could have had more to do with spending the week with him rather than the actual "holiday" with him. Dylan goes to school. He had that time off school for a week. It gives Mark the chance to see his son and spend some time with him, as per his plans about bowling, etc. I think he just wanted to hang out with him and give him the opportunity to see his buddies.

I doubt it was about cooking a turkey and all the trimmings. That's such a girl thing and so not a man thing.

:what: Tell my husband and his brother that...