CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[yupikgirl]

I also forgot to put this in my other post on page two ( the one about his family member saying he had run away before). I had read a while back on the prayer vigil event page when he first went missing. From memory of course (ill be able to look it up later its bookmarked on my PC) that his aunt posted in the very very early days that she was beginning to think that he didn't run away. It was of course very early in the case, but her words seemed to imply that as time went on she was now thinking it was very serious. So it seems that at least some family members did believe that he may have run away in the beginning.

This is of course not to discount what family members now believe as information has come thorough to them. They clearly now think he didn't run away, but something made them think that in the beginning (and still think that for a cousin who may or may not have all the info the adults have).

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I also forgot to put this in my other post on page two ( the one about his family member saying he had run away before). I had read a while back on the prayer vigil event page when he first went missing. From memory of course (ill be able to look it up later its bookmarked on my PC) that his aunt posted in the very very early days that she was beginning to think that he didn't run away. It was of course very early in the case, but her words seemed to imply that as time went on she was now thinking it was very serious. So it seems that at least some family members did believe that he may have run away in the beginning.

This is of course not to discount what family members now believe as information has come thorough to them. They clearly now think he didn't run away, but something made them think that in the beginning (and still think that for a cousin who may or may not have all the info the adults have).

LE thought he was a runaway to begin with.

 

[katydid23]

I think many 13 yr olds talk about running away. Very few really do it, luckily. But hearing someone say that D threatened to run away before does not mean he really ran away, imo.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

I think many 13 yr olds talk about running away. Very few really do it, luckily. But hearing someone say that D threatened to run away before does not mean he really ran away, imo.

very true. I always used to say I was going to run away when I was 12-14yrs old, as much as I wanted to because things were that bad I never did because I was too scared to.

 

[asyousay]

LE thought he was a runaway to begin with.

I am conviced the missing rucksack with most of his belongings in helped them think that IMO !!

I am not sure that was not a decoy to distract LE for the first few days .

 

[Eileen730]

Everybody seem frustrated with this investigation of missing Dylan these days. Dylan has been missing two months and we know no more than we did the day he landed in an airplane.

Like somebody mentioned earlier perhaps a space ship picked him up. They don't usually leave any evidence either.

Where are you Dylan?

Just like the Holly Bobo case and Kortne Stouffer.

They went missing and for a week or so there were searches and then nothing!

I think in both of these cases LE and the Investigating agencies know but need the evidence to charge.

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

LE has not taken abduction off the table. It's still a viable option for what happened to Dylan.

All Dylan had to be doing is walking down the road at the same time a perv was coming down the road and just like that, he's in big trouble.

It appears that his mother still believes he's alive somewhere. I do as well. I do not believe he's dead. Nothing has been found that would indicte he was harmed.

I've followed enough MP cases here now to know that even after the MP is found, we may never get the whole story, we may never know why and how Dylan disappeared or what motive there was for it. I have several cases I'd like to know why the people left. All I know is they were later found and are safe, that's it.

Sadly I think Dylan died that sunday Evening around 8pm. Right whe his phone went off the grid.
He is 13 yrs old.
If he was unhappy with his Dad he would have called Mom or his brother to send for him or come and get him I dont think he got that chance
and he could have been doing this exact thing when his phone was silenced.
The look of this child in that Walmart photo shows he is not a happy camper.
And its not because hes bored or hes tired. He is just NOT Happy. I would very much love to see DAD in that video of the two of them not just one frozen frame of Dylan. I think there is alot we do not see and are not being allowed to view.

JMO



All JMO

JMO

 

[MissJ]

Even if none of us suspected MR being involved.....he still KNOWS something that could be useful. He may have "strange" neighbors (I've had a few who were too friendly with teens), strange people he may have met in bars if he goes to them, people he may have told about Dylan's arrival; maybe just random persons he ran across.....blabbed about his holiday plans. He's had time to think about this. Surely there is something important. MOO. No matter where you live there are some odd balls that stand out when you think about it from that perspective. I live in a nice middle class neighborhood of brick homes with lots of kids and a school behind us. Wouldn't you know it that one of my neighbors was arrested early one a.m. by the DEA and FBI in full armor running across my yard to get to his house where he was taken in for interstate trafficking. He was convicted. MOO.

 

[yupikgirl]

I think many 13 yr olds talk about running away. Very few really do it, luckily. But hearing someone say that D threatened to run away before does not mean he really ran away, imo.

I agree. The post said he had actually run away before though.

I agree it appears he did not run away, but he has in the past. I didn't post what was said on the Facebook page and Facebook event page to argue with anyone on whether 13 year olds "say this all the time". And i am saying that in the most non snarky way not directed at anyone..i know tone is hard to read. It just happened to be the topic of discussion when I opened the thread and jogged my memory on the Facebook pages that in the beginning family did appear to think he ran away...again.

 

[The Cheese]

The police officer has posted what he meant by the cell usage -
http://www.facebook.com/FindMissing...mment_id=118004753&offset=0&total_comments=43

 

[SCHMAE]

Just wondering. Is there a school in the Vallecito area where MR lived? Because school was out for the holiday in Bayfield, so I presume school would have been out everywhere else.
Considering it is so isolated and rural where MR lives, why would a pedophile/SO/predator be cruising for kids near MR's house when there would be a lot easier locations to grab a child? And more of them available? Just doesn't connect for me.

I just don't see this happening. JMO and MOO and everything else that says it's all my opinion!

The schools in the neighboring town don't always have the same holiday schedule. But you make a good point. It would be interesting to know if school was in or out nearest MR's house. For one thing he might have seen a familiar kid and taken off with him to do something , fish , hike, look at girls, sneak a smoke. To your other point, I don't know that pedo's ' cruise' for victims necessarily. I think they may go about their business and if an opportunity arises, ( kid walking alone in a limited visability area ) they act on it on the spot. Pedo's are sneaky , lucky folks.

 

[Veidt]

Even if none of us suspected MR being involved.....he still KNOWS something that could be useful. He may have "strange" neighbors (I've had a few who were too friendly with teens), strange people he may have met in bars if he goes to them, people he may have told about Dylan's arrival; maybe just random persons he ran across.....blabbed about his holiday plans. He's had time to think about this. Surely there is something important. MOO. No matter where you live there are some odd balls that stand out when you think about it from that perspective. I live in a nice middle class neighborhood of brick homes with lots of kids and a school behind us. Wouldn't you know it that one of my neighbors was arrested early one a.m. by the DEA and FBI in full armor running across my yard to get to his house where he was taken in for interstate trafficking. He was convicted. MOO.

Or, maybe they don't - I feel like many dangerous people out there look so normal that nobody thinks they could ever be dangerous. Then they in turn use this facade to keep harming people.

I do think that if MR is innocent and he suspects someone in retrospect he has shared it with the police, plus this kind of question is something I assume LE would have asked from the start. It just doesn't mean that everything LE knows will come out in the media, especially if it's a neighbor with no prior convinctions and people are right in saying that LE's silence means that they know who did it but are trying to gather evidence.:twocents:

I wonder what kind of rumors are going around locally, do we have any local members? That retired officer in the page is referring to things that are not officially said anywhere... if this officer is who he claims he is and not a troll he must know something through friends in the LE. Maybe similar rumors have been going around locally about someone who has always acted suspiciously or acted strangely that day.

This JMO as usual.

 

[MissJ]

Funny thing about that "officer" and what he said...that the cell phone being turned off etc made him know that Dylan was alive? Maybe I'm dense but how does that work? Sorry I think someone is a troll.

 

[Cardinal47]

I'm not even sure what he is referring to, or why it would lead him to the conclusion that he was abducted and someone else was involved.

If he is getting it from Bayfield LE that could be the talk. They have a lot more knowledge than we do. Every cop, active and retired, beat the drums and know pretty much going on.

With that said I have no idea who that poster is. Interesting though because I have always had it in the back of my mind this could be the reason MR isn't speaking. He doesn't have to he knows where Dylan is?

Just tossing that one out there.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

When the 'officer' was questioned about the cell phone usage comment he replied with something like 'the pattern of usage (not being on) wasn't normal'. WTH...so that told him that Dylan was kidnapped and is being held captive? Something is very 'off' with his statements IMO. Something tells me he's learning about Dylan late in the game and is assuming that he was abducted vs. running away.

 

[Cardinal47]

LE thought he was a runaway to begin with.

Yes and that is when they were doing all their interviewing with family and friends and everybody was talking.

What drew them to that conclusion? What did the friends tell them that made them think Dylan was unhappy enough to run away?

I am always confused. Was this a court ordered visit that Dylan didn't want to go on?

 

[Cardinal47]

very true. I always used to say I was going to run away when I was 12-14yrs old, as much as I wanted to because things were that bad I never did because I was too scared to.

Yes a lot of kids are miserable. But I don't think Dylan ran away. If anything I think he was taken away. Everybody seems to think if that happened he would have broken free.

I don't because we have Jaycee Dugard and Elizabeth Smart and a few others that stayed right with their captors. Heck Dylan could have been told anything and he could be too scared to leave.

He is a kid and has no idea who he is with and what they are capable of. Somebody could have told him they would harm his mother and brother and that would scare a little kid if they knew the person to hate them.

I still have a tiny glimmer of hope Dylan is out there. Maybe 10%. The other 90% is that Dylan will be found somewhere...not alive.

 

[Cardinal47]

Sadly I think Dylan died that sunday Evening around 8pm. Right whe his phone went off the grid.
He is 13 yrs old.
If he was unhappy with his Dad he would have called Mom or his brother to send for him or come and get him I dont think he got that chance
and he could have been doing this exact thing when his phone was silenced.
The look of this child in that Walmart photo shows he is not a happy camper.
And its not because hes bored or hes tired. He is just NOT Happy. I would very much love to see DAD in that video of the two of them not just one frozen frame of Dylan. I think there is alot we do not see and are not being allowed to view.

JMO



All JMO

JMO

Oh you said a mouthful there. I think that Walmart video is very revealing and for some reason LE is protecting MR by not showing it.

With that said it will be revealed what is on that video. Everybody talks and a lot of LE have seen it and discussed it. Walmart folks have seen it before delivering it to LE.

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[nursebeeme]

fundraiser this thursday

Family and friends of a missing 13-year-old from El Paso County, Dylan Redwine, are hosting a fundraiser to help in the search.

The benefit is called Dinner for Dylan; it&#8216;ll be Thursday, Jan. 17th, at Lewis Palmer High School. The fundraiser starts at 5:30 pm and is open to the public; no RSVP is required.. The cost is $5 per person or $20 per four-person family and includes a pasta dinner, non-alcoholic beverages and entry, according to a press release. There will also be a silent auction.

http://www.koaa.com/news/fundraiser-planned-to-help-in-search-for-dylan-redwine/

 

[The Cheese]

My :twocents: -

- I don't even think about a runaway theory. Everyone who knows Dylan has been so adamant that he wouldn't run away. :twocents:

- I can't make heads or tails of what the retired police officer is saying. I just wish he'd put a shirt on. Interestingly, there was a troll posting on the opposite end of the spectrum on Dylan's official facebook yesterday over and over that Dylan was dead. It was awful, had a lot of people very upset. Maybe the PO fancied himself a "counter troll"? Or maybe it was the same troll in a different account. Trolls don't much care what they say - they just look for strong reaction. :twocents: