CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[MissJ]

I believe that law enforcement stated within the first month that they do not believe Dylan is a runaway. They said this was a crime. Since they have said very little I believe them. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

I find it kind of hard to believe that any kidnapper is looking to FB for advice at this point. Or that anyone there has any to give.

Yes, Dylan may have been abducted. Still no closer to finding him, by acknowledging that option. And LE is not behaving as if this is their chief suspicion, IMO.

 

[asyousay]

I find it kind of hard to believe that any kidnapper is looking to FB for advice at this point. Or that anyone there has any to give.

Yes, Dylan may have been abducted. Still no closer to finding him, by acknowledging that option. And LE is not behaving as if this is their chief suspicion, IMO.

But if they have nothing else to go on then its worth a shot. They lose nothing by trying to speak out .

I think they just want to be seen doing something as they must be feeling useless by this stage of the game.

 

[cluciano63]

But if they have nothing else to go on then its worth a shot. They lose nothing by trying to speak out .

I think they just want to be seen doing something as they must be feeling useless by this stage of the game.

I agree, anything is worth a shot. But posting something does not make it any more or less viable an option. Unless LE working on this case says it, or Dylan's mom indicates she has some inside info, I don"t take anything as having much basis in fact.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If Dylan was abducted for ransom and a ransom request made, I don't think this is something LE would share with the public. I am reminded of the Samantha Koenig case where they followed that sicko for a while and were depositing funds into a bank account for him and none of us were privy to it. There were even some that accused her father of living off of the reward fund when in reality what he did was take money out of that account to fund the bank account. We knew nothing about what was going on behind the scenes. But when you look back (after knowing the facts) much of it made sense.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Another possible scenario is MR having something to do with an abduction. Although to me this makes no sense. Who knows what he is capable of and why though.

 

[asyousay]

If Dylan was abducted for ransom and a ransom request made, I don't think this is something LE would share with the public. I am reminded of the Samantha Koenig case where they followed that sicko for a while and were depositing funds into a bank account for him and none of us were privy to it. There were even some that accused her father of living off of the reward fund when in reality what he did was take money out of that account to fund the bank account. We knew nothing about what was going on behind the scenes. But when you look back (after knowing the facts) much of it made sense.

Why would you wait months to make a ransom demand ? , if that is the case.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If Dylan was abducted for ransom and a ransom request made, I don't think this is something LE would share with the public. I am reminded of the Samantha Koenig case where they followed that sicko for a while and were depositing funds into a bank account for him and none of us were privy to it. There were even some that accused her father of living off of the reward fund when in reality what he did was take money out of that account to fund the bank account. We knew nothing about what was going on behind the scenes. But when you look back (after knowing the facts) much of it made sense.

Ransom demands seem like something out of the 20s/30s to me. Besides JonBenet and the Koenig case, what other cases have there been ransom demands? It seems extraordinarily rare. And I know that the Koenigs weren't rich, yet the killer still demanded money, but I think that most abductors who want to demand a ransom, are going to choose a wealthy child.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Why would you wait months to make a ransom demand ? , if that is the case.

How do we know they did? (if this happened) Like I said, I remember the Samantha Koenig case and LE was on Israel Keyes from early on. But did the public know this? And I do believe they thought during that time there was a chance of Sam being alive. If you go back and read what happened AFTER THE FACT it all makes sense. LE definitely doesn't tell the public everything.

I'm not saying I believe Dylan was abducted but I am open enough to hear different theories. I've tossed around some theories, none of which make much sense to me, but we know so little.

I tend to try to think about what could possibly being going on behind the scenes.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

For instance, Elaine saying she believes Dylan is alive. Is this based on some information she has or is it purely wishful thinking or is it a way to try to get a certain interested party to relax and open up and talk? I don't know. I do believe from Cory's statement that he feels Dad is involved somehow. Perhaps Cory and Mom have differing thoughts on what happened?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

How do we know they did? (if this happened) Like I said, I remember the Samantha Koenig case and LE was on Israel Keyes from early on. But did the public know this? And I do believe they thought during that time there was a chance of Sam being alive. If you go back and read what happened AFTER THE FACT it all makes sense. LE definitely doesn't tell the public everything.

I'm not saying I believe Dylan was abducted but I am open enough to hear different theories. I've tossed around some theories, none of which make much sense to me, but we know so little.

I tend to try to think about what could possibly being going on behind the scenes.

It's just weird to me to discuss the possibility of a middle-class child being kidnapped for ransom. I know it happened in the Koenig case, but it's just so rare. Heck, even rich kids aren't being kidnapped for ransom anymore.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

For instance, Elaine saying she believes Dylan is alive. Is this based on some information she has or is it purely wishful thinking or is it a way to try to get a certain interested party to relax and open up and talk? I don't know. I do believe from Cory's statement that he feels Dad is involved somehow. Perhaps Cory and Mom have differing thoughts on what happened?

Wishful thinking. There are many parents of missing children, whose kids have been missing for 10+ years, who believe they are still alive. I would say that 99% of children who have been missing for years are dead, and were probably killed very shortly after being abducted, but parents still feel in their heart that their child is alive.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

It's just weird to me to discuss the possibility of a middle-class child being kidnapped for ransom. I know it happened in the Koenig case, but it's just so rare. Heck, even rich kids aren't being kidnapped for ransom anymore.

I agree but not impossible. AFTER THE FACT I believe Anchorage PD did an absolutely amazing job on the SK case and if one ounce of what was going on had leaked to the public the sicko probably would have gotten away with it. A prime example as to why they keep things close to the vest sometimes.

Trust me, based on what we know the fence is leaning. I just haven't hit the ground yet and am just kicking different possibilities around.

So if not for ransom it could be a number of other things. Child sexual predator, murderer, sold into trafficking (which is HUGE nowadays) someone with a personal mission.

 

[ThePhantom]

I'm guessing it may not be the kind of abduction (if it was in fact an abduction) in which ransom is a factor.

At the expense of causing anyone to do the proverbial head banging, it is true that we don't know factually who the last person was to see Dylan. This is not the best example, and clearly the circumstances were different, but Mike Negrete was last seen by the student he was playing video games with. Then he vanished, but the dogs traced his scent to a bus stop. Obviously we know theoretically that it was Mark who last saw Dylan. How many places other than the lake did the dogs locate Dylan's scent? The "looks like a duck" approach may or may not apply, depending on how many factors and scenarios one is willing to perceive. Was the "bad blood" between the parents only one sided? Or going further, between the extended relatives of the parents? Question: when the FBI gets involved, does LE defer to them when releasing information?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Does anyone feel that MR could have abducted him? You know when LE has made statements saying the think he was abducted, the thought always crosses my mind if maybe they think MR did it. Maybe he is that vindictive?

 

[Seajay]

I've been saying since the beginning that Dylan is alive. I've also tried to put out there the idea that he was "abducted" by someone he knows. Unless I name Mark as the likely candidate, I can't name anyone else and I'm not naming Mark. I have said about as much as I have been allowed to say in this, all speculating what I think. This post, for whatever it's worth reinterates what I've been trying to say while tip-toeing around the rules.

Basically what I've been saying is that Dylan was "abducted" by someone he knows, to make someone else look bad, irresponsible, guilty. And they don't know how to get out of it now (thus the this far comment.) It wasn't all the way thought out and now there is no way to come clean without some major legal issues. All JMO and what I think.

 

[asyousay]

Does anyone feel that MR could have abducted him? You know when LE has made statements saying the think he was abducted, the thought always crosses my mind if maybe they think MR did it. Maybe he is that vindictive?

Yeah this has also crossed my mind but i do not think anybody would be stupid enough to help him out and if nobody else is helping then how in the world could Dylan still be alive?

 

[asyousay]

I've been saying since the beginning that Dylan is alive. I've also tried to put out there the idea that he was "abducted" by someone he knows. Unless I name Mark as the likely candidate, I can't name anyone else and I'm not naming Mark. I have said about as much as I have been allowed to say in this, all speculating what I think. This post, for whatever it's worth reinterates what I've been trying to say while tip-toeing around the rules.

Basically what I've seen saying is that Dylan was "abducted" by someone he knows, to make someone else look bad, irresponsible, guilty. And they don't know how to get out of it now (thus the this far comment.) It wasn't all the way thought out and now there is no way to come clean without some major legal issues. All JMO and what I think.

I do not think its that person if he has been abducted. Why risk losing your son over this when you already have custody?

 

[Seajay]

Does anyone feel that MR could have abducted him? You know when LE has made statements saying the think he was abducted, the thought always crosses my mind if maybe they think MR did it. Maybe he is that vindictive?

No, I do not. I never did.

 

[asyousay]

The only other theory i have is that Dylan did run off , he felt let down by Mum who would not let him stay at home when he wanted to ( 13 years old are not the most rational ) and did not want to be around MR so decided to take off. And met foul play along the way.