CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[azgrandma]

I think you misundersstood. That's the tail end of a conversation we had upthread about how many missing children are found after 2 months. I noted that Daniel Christensen just returned after being missing 4 months. A poster said they were trying to find something on that, and asked if it was determined he was abducted or ran away. And that is the response to that question that you have quoted. Daniel Christensen ran away. He packed two bags and was being taken care of by someone for 4 months who thought he was being abused at home.

Seajay, you are correct, I misunderstood completely and others pointed that out to me, my apologies to you in thinking that this was in regards to Dylan. I'm trying to work and stay up with this and not doing a good job at.
Thank you for the clarification, I do appreciate it very much!

 

[NC Analyzer]

Amber DuBois - her stepfather was the #1 POI - it turned out to be an RSO recently released from prison.

The Duregard case (my spelling is off here) - her stepfather was also the #1 POI - turned out to be an RSO recently released from prison.

Nurse (I think it was Nurse) mentioned a couple in the last thread. Sierra LaMar, iirc.

Somer Thompson - many accused her mother and the guy friend. To my knowledge, mom was never a POI. Turned out to be some neighbor.

These all I can think of at the moment. My point is that I've learned things are not always what they seem.

Salem

And none of those were under the same circumstances. Similar, somewhat, but not the same.
My point is this. I was trained to eliminate and move on. I cannot eliminate MR with what has been made public and the "possibilities" that have been brought forth don't have the right "connections" to close the loop. It is what it is.
JMO

 

[asyousay]

It has been stated as fact that "MR is doing nothing" but we don't really know that. My point is that we don't have the facts to make such blanket statements and that we sell ourselves short when we accept things as fact without analyzing them.

Salem

I can list some of the stuff that Elaine is doing to bring Dylan home . Yet can anybody name anything productive by Mark in attempting to help raise awareness for Dylan ?


ETA- Barring the first two weeks

 

[kkdj]

Yes, but wasn't Marc talking to the media and trying to help find his daughter?

Most people that know they are innocent are not afraid to be questioned or confronted by anyone because all they care about is find their child. No matter what it takes!

I think even if I were guilty I would be talking to the media, at least to appear innocent to some. I have never been able to understand when a guilty parent shuts up. It makes it look more questionable or even obvious. In a normal circumstance where a parent has no clue, they would be frantic, asking for everybody's help. To not act that way seems abnormal to me and creates questions and focus on that person.
Jmo

 

[NC Analyzer]

Sorry NC - I did not mean to categorize any of our posters. Was not my intent at all. I understand why everyone is looking at MR. I understand. So far, the limited evidence we have points us right there.

You are definitely entitled to your opinion and to post it and talk about it. The issue comes up when things are stated as fact and yet we have no facts to substantiate the info.

It has been stated as fact that "MR is doing nothing" but we don't really know that. My point is that we don't have the facts to make such blanket statements and that we sell ourselves short when we accept things as fact without analyzing them.

Salem

Actually, we do know that. It would have been seen, noticed, observed if MR was doing anything productive to assist in finding Dylan. I have every confidence in the media putting that information out if he was helping. I have every confidence that the FB posters would have something to say if he was helping. I have every confidence that it would be known if he made an appearance at one of his son's benefit's. I'm very confident that if he spoke to ER as she has requested that it would be known. I'm confident that if he did anything what-so-ever, it would be reported. He has not. And I'm very confident when I make that statement. If you can show me otherwise, I might take that into consideration. JMO

 

[rebeccaeee]

And none of those were under the same circumstances. Similar, somewhat, but not the same.
My point is this. I was trained to eliminate and move on. I cannot eliminate MR with what has been made public and the "possibilities" that have been brought forth don't have the right "connections" to close the loop. It is what it is.
JMO

Sounds kind of like the particular purgatory LE is probably in. Can't rule in, can't rule out. All they can do is watch, wait and hope for more evidence to point them in a direction. Evidence toward MR or toward someone else but without evidence, they have very little to investigate. I hope they are keeping anyone who might lead them to evidence under close watch but if we're talking an unknown SO, you might as well be stalking a ghost until they offend again. If you're talking MR, well, hopefully there is a greater potential to gather info.

 

[Tennlyn]

Sorry if this link has already been posted. I might have missed seeing it. It's just another channel's coverage of last night's fundraiser.
http://www.krdo.com/news/Fundraiser...t-boy/-/417220/18181076/-/75d3tm/-/index.html

 

[kkdj]

And none of those were under the same circumstances. Similar, somewhat, but not the same.
My point is this. I was trained to eliminate and move on. I cannot eliminate MR with what has been made public and the "possibilities" that have been brought forth don't have the right "connections" to close the loop. It is what it is.
JMO

Agreed. Also LE has not once indicated(that I'm aware of) that the community is in any danger. And that the local RSO's all are alibied.
So that brings me right back to other questions and quite frankly they are with MR.
Jmo

 

[Seajay]

In the beginning, in an interview Mark gave, didn't he say he was trying to talk to Elaine?? Didn't he say something about wanting to work together and be a united front with her to find Dylan???? Then he said something about I don't want to have dinner with her, I just want to be able to sit down as a family and sort things out and look for Dylan??

Gosh, it's been two months, it's hard to remember everything and separate fact from speculation presented as fact. But I seem to remember him reaching out to start with. I think that was around the time she made her first public statement that she thought Mark was capable of doing something to Dylan. Not sure which came first now, the chicken or the egg. JMO

 

[Seajay]

Agreed. Also LE has not once indicated(that I'm aware of) that the community is in any danger. And that the local RSO's all are alibied.
So that brings me right back to other questions and quite frankly they are with MR.
Jmo

Local RSOs. We have to remember that Philip Garrido drove for 2 1/2 hours away from his area to find Jaycee Dugard. He was an RSO, had been release from prison and when he went hunting, he went in someone else's backyard.

 

[azgrandma]

In regards to whether or not MR is doing anything to help. IMO, it's really really sad and speaks for itself when the only time publicly he attended anything was one search and one vigil.

IMO, there are plenty of people that are not related to DR that have done more.

IMO, it doesn't matter what the public thinks (he even stated that he was aware that the finger would be pointed towards him, but he would be ok)

 

[asyousay]

In regards to whether or not MR is doing anything to help. IMO, it's really really sad and speaks for itself when the only time publicly he attended anything was one search and one vigil.

IMO, there are plenty of people that are not related to DR that have done more.

IMO, it doesn't matter what the public thinks (he even stated that he was aware that the finger would be pointed towards him, but he would be ok)

And this one Mark disrespectfully turned up late to .

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I think even if I were guilty I would be talking to the media, at least to appear innocent to some. I have never been able to understand when a guilty parent shuts up. It makes it look more questionable or even obvious. In a normal circumstance where a parent has no clue, they would be frantic, asking for everybody's help. To not act that way seems abnormal to me and creates questions and focus on that person.
Jmo

Personally, if I were guilty, I wouldn't talk to the media. The more one talks to the media, the more momentum a case will gain, and the longer it will go on for. Baby Lisa's parents stopped talking...and that was the end of media coverage for that case. I would want the case to go away and be forgotten.

 

[NC Analyzer]

In the beginning, in an interview Mark gave, didn't he say he was trying to talk to Elaine?? Didn't he say something about wanting to work together and be a united front with her to find Dylan???? Then he said something about I don't want to have dinner with her, I just want to be able to sit down as a family and sort things out and look for Dylan??

Gosh, it's been two months, it's hard to remember everything and separate fact from speculation presented as fact. But I seem to remember him reaching out to start with. I think that was around the time she made her first public statement that she thought Mark was capable of doing something to Dylan. Not sure which came first now, the chicken or the egg. JMO

He was saying that at the same time she stated that he wouldn't accept any phone calls from her or CR.
The one thing that stands out to me is both ex-wives have said he is very manipulative. Says one thing and does another. No one really knows him or what he is capable of doing.
I see a man who continues to direct the attention back to himself...while claiming he doesn't want the focus to be on him. See how that's done? Once you've been around this type, it all comes together. I've seen plenty of them act like that in my experience. Sad thing is, many good and decent folks fall for it every time because they haven't been exposed to this game.
JMO

 

[azgrandma]

In the beginning, in an interview Mark gave, didn't he say he was trying to talk to Elaine?? Didn't he say something about wanting to work together and be a united front with her to find Dylan???? Then he said something about I don't want to have dinner with her, I just want to be able to sit down as a family and sort things out and look for Dylan??

Gosh, it's been two months, it's hard to remember everything and separate fact from speculation presented as fact. But I seem to remember him reaching out to start with. I think that was around the time she made her first public statement that she thought Mark was capable of doing something to Dylan. Not sure which came first now, the chicken or the egg. JMO

You are correct, he did say that and it's difficult to remember what news article had what and when. I do know that it was after her appearance on GMA because up until that time he had not given an interview.

We need a cheat sheet to keep it all straight!

I just wonder why the turn around, if he wanted to talk with them back then, then why hasn't he? With all the rational and irrational reasons why he would not want to talk to her after she accused him on national tv, yet he IMO discounted all of those thinkings by saying he wanted to sit down and talk after her accusation. the merry go round goes round and round.

(I am in NO way saying any opinion here is irrational, except the alien one but that was on FMDR :floorlaugh

 

[kkdj]

And none of those were under the same circumstances. Similar, somewhat, but not the same.
My point is this. I was trained to eliminate and move on. I cannot eliminate MR with what has been made public and the "possibilities" that have been brought forth don't have the right "connections" to close the loop. It is what it is.
JMO

BBM - we do know through all the MSM's that what he is not speaking with ER or CR.

IMO (in regards to the 2 BBM) laying low is not helping to find a missing child. I agree that a quilty person would lay low and allow LE to do their job all in hopes that they wouldn't get caught. IMO an innocent parent doesn't lay low.

That's it right there! "IMO an innocent parent doesn't lay low."
Imo

 

[MissJ]

That's it right there! "IMO an innocent parent doesn't lay low."
Imo

An innocent person would have no need to lay low.:moo: Thanks KKDJ:rocker:

Also none of us has ever said he needs to explain anything to us. (not aimed at you KKDJ:twocents:

 

[nursebeeme]

more media coverage for Dylan
http://www.9news.com/news/article/311063/188/Hundreds-hold-on-to-hope-for-missing-Colo-boy-

 

[Seajay]

You are correct, he did say that and it's difficult to remember what news article had what and when. I do know that it was after her appearance on GMA because up until that time he had not given an interview.
We need a cheat sheet to keep it all straight!

I just wonder why the turn around, if he wanted to talk with them back then, then why hasn't he? With all the rational and irrational reasons why he would not want to talk to her after she accused him on national tv, yet he IMO discounted all of those thinkings by saying he wanted to sit down and talk after her accusation. the merry go round goes round and round.

(I am in NO way saying any opinion here is irrational, except the alien one but that was on FMDR :floorlaugh

BBM: It made it sound at that time that he was willing to sit down with her but it appeared that she didn't want to. So I don't know.

Second BBM: I'm learning towards the alien abduction. j/k

 

[popsicle]

That's it right there! "IMO an innocent parent doesn't lay low."
Imo

Unless they just aren't dealing with the stress of the whole thing very well. jmo