CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #26

[asyousay]

Maybe he doesn't respond because he feels that his older son is closer to his mom and Dylan than him and it bothers him?

This would make sense as Cory is a lot older than Dylan so would of been a lot more aware of what was going on with his dad and mum leading up to the split and the divorce and would of probably been more affected by all due to his age. Cory IMO seems very close to Elaine and this could be why Mark wont speak to him.


I am not justifying this stance ( if it is this) because its still his flesh and blood but it would not be surprising if its done to this IMO.

 

[Dixie811]

I think a lot of people here question whether or not Dylan ever made it to his father's' house. I am not sure if LE knows. I tend to believe that something may have occurred when the phone seems to have gone silent.

I agree that the lack of activity on the phone on Sunday night/Monday morning suggests something may have happened to Dylan prior to when MR left his house to run errands on Monday mornings.

However, I myself don't necessarily pinpoint the moment something happened right on the moment that Dylan & R's texting conversation about hanging out the next morning stopped. Just because when I read the transcript of the conversation between the two boys (someone posted it on here...) it seemed like the conversation between the two ended simply because it was over. It didn't seem to me that Dylan was cut off mid-conversation. IMO, most teenage boys end a texting exchange when what needs to be said has been said.. rather than saying-- "OK, bye goodnight I'm going to go play video games" for example.

I realize that by the time Dylan was reported missing his phone was completely off/battery out, whatever. But I don't think we know for sure that the phone's power was cut off right after his last text, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

This is all just my opinion based on my impression of the texts between DR & his friend R on Sunday night. If something did happen to Dylan on Sunday night or very early Monday morning, I don't know if it was necessarily right at 8pm.

 

[Seajay]

Scott Peterson did the same thing while Laci was still missing. He was seen throwing the whole pile of fliers in the trash when he thought no one was looking.

He also was very public, gave interviews, attended press conferences begging for Laci and Connor's return. So being in the public eye does not mean you are innocent, anymore than not giving interviews means you are guilty. kwim??

 

[Eileen730]

As MR said, the focus shouldn't be on him but on finding Dylan.

But it is on him!
He is the one dylan was with.
He was responsible for Dylan's well being.

And why shouldnt the focus be on him since no one knows where Dylan is and he vanished from dads home.

As far as im concerned the entire focus should be placed on him till they can rule him out, and they have not done that yet.

JMO

 

[Seajay]

This is an occasion, I will use the old line "talk is cheap", because Elaine had said from after the text she got that Dylan went missing he wouldn't talk/text either her or Dylan. I think that was when she went on NG.

Which is probably why he's not giving anymore interviews, because this is exactly the kind of reaction he got when he did. I don't know why anyone wants him to give anymore interviews or talk to Elaine or anyone else, because this seems to be the only reason people want him to. Since no one believes what he says anyway, why should he bother?

 

[mck16]

I agree that the lack of activity on the phone on Sunday night/Monday morning suggests something may have happened to Dylan prior to when MR left his house to run errands on Monday mornings.

However, I myself don't necessarily pinpoint the moment something happened right on the moment that Dylan & R's texting conversation about hanging out the next morning stopped. Just because when I read the transcript of the conversation between the two boys (someone posted it on here...) it seemed like the conversation between the two ended simply because it was over. It didn't seem to me that Dylan was cut off mid-conversation. IMO, most teenage boys end a texting exchange when what needs to be said has been said.. rather than saying-- "OK, bye goodnight I'm going to go play video games" for example.

I realize that by the time Dylan was reported missing his phone was completely off/battery out, whatever. But I don't think we know for sure that the phone's power was cut off right after his last text, right? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

This is all just my opinion based on my impression of the texts between DR & his friend R on Sunday night. If something did happen to Dylan on Sunday night or very early Monday morning, I don't know if it was necessarily right at 8pm.

R sent the last text to DR around that time. DR did not respond to R's text. Apparently there was no activity after that. jmo

 

[TxJan1971]

This would make sense as Cory is a lot older than Dylan so would of been a lot more aware of what was going on with his dad and mum leading up to the split and the divorce and would of probably been more affected by all due to his age. Cory IMO seems very close to Elaine and this could be why Mark wont speak to him.


I am not justifying this stance ( if it is this) because its still his flesh and blood but it would not be surprising if its done to this IMO.

Would a direct quote from MR help?

“We all met together in a private room and sat down and talked. I haven’t heard from Cory for three days,” Mark Redwine said. “I think he’s struggling like we all are. I know he’s closer to his brother and to his mom than to me."

http://www.gazette.com/articles/dylan-148038-son-redwine.html

 

[azgrandma]

Maybe he doesn't respond because he feels that his older son is closer to his mom and Dylan than him and it bothers him?

But the older son is still HIS son too no matter how close they are to either parent. Heck it isn't high school where one friend might think you like another friend more and their feelings are hurt. If your child calls, especially during a tramatic time such as this, you (the parent) answers the call or returns it.

 

[Dixie811]

R sent the last text to DR around that time. DR did not respond to R's text. Apparently there was no activity after that. jmo

:blushing: I thought that in the transcript viewed here on WS we saw that R's last text to DR was at 9:27pm, following Dylan's last text which was closer to 8:01pm. Either way, my point was that I DO think the phone going silent Sunday night is significant... I just don't know if the exact time of Dylan's last text necessarily coincides with the exact time he met with foul play.

JMO :moo:

 

[Eileen730]

He also was very public, gave interviews, attended press conferences begging for Laci and Connor's return. So being in the public eye does not mean you are innocent, anymore than not giving interviews means you are guilty. kwim??

He was very public because the one person that could say something against him was dead. He was the only one that knew where she was. He was making himself look like the sad hubby.

Here we have a missing child
His ex wife is not very happy with him.
He has some charges lurking in the background and im sure there are questions about a poly.
If he decides to talk he opens himself up to that can of worms and if he cant deny any of it it makes him look worse.

He should talk to MOm tho no matter what. Good or bad!


JMO

 

[azgrandma]

Which is probably why he's not giving anymore interviews, because this is exactly the kind of reaction he got when he did. I don't know why anyone wants him to give anymore interviews or talk to Elaine or anyone else, because this seems to be the only reason people want him to. Since no one believes what he says anyway, why should he bother?

The same happens when ER speaks, she is criticized for accusing MR, criticized for bringing his name into the conversation, etc. Yet she still gives interviews. The public comments have not stopped her from moving forward with interviews, so he should bother especially if he fells as he said, something to the effect of not to worry about him or everything is going to be alright.

 

[Darcyline]

I am suspecting Dad at this point, but I can see why he wouldn't be talking to media guilty or not. The only times he has has led to people focusing on what a horrible person he is while not talking about Dylan at all. I know people will disagree with that, but I have seen entire exchanges that were about what a drunken jerk he is without mentioning Dylan's name at all.
If I were a parent, it would make me extremely angry and not want to talk to media even if I was innocent if me speaking to media led to people attacking me personally with little focus on what might help find my child.

I do not have any excuse for him not talking to ER or his other son. He needs to sit down in a room together, look them in the eyes, and tell them the entire story, as far as I am concerned.

 

[TxJan1971]

Which is probably why he's not giving anymore interviews, because this is exactly the kind of reaction he got when he did. I don't know why anyone wants him to give anymore interviews or talk to Elaine or anyone else, because this seems to be the only reason people want him to. Since no one believes what he says anyway, why should he bother?

I understand what you're saying and agree that he will be sliced and diced and spit out. I truly do.

The fact remains that his flesh and blood is missing, though...

It all comes back to that. His son is missing. Nothing else should matter. Nothing! The child should come first.

 

[Confusion]

I've given up on arguing my points, since none of us can prove we're right at this point anyway. I'll just say that, I believe he stopped texting when they got to MR's house and started bringing in his stuff and what they just bought. Once they were inside, he plopped on the couch in front of the tv while MR put away groceries. I think he fell asleep there before MR was done, and was just left there for the night. MOO

 

[asyousay]

I've given up on arguing my points, since none of us can prove we're right at this point anyway. I'll just say that, I believe he stopped texting when they got to MR's house and started bringing in his stuff and what they just bought. Once they were inside, he plopped on the couch in front of the tv while MR put away groceries. I think he fell asleep there before MR was done, and was just left there for the night. MOO

When did they throw around the football ?

 

[Confusion]

When did they throw around the football ?

I knew I'd get suckered into responding! :blushing: The ball could have been one of the first things taken out of the bag. MR could have thrown it to him to get it out of the way, DR threw it back, and MR threw it again telling him to put it somewhere. It could have been a totally different way, and I doubt any of us will ever know for sure. MOO

 

[Seajay]

The same happens when ER speaks, she is criticized for accusing MR, criticized for bringing his name into the conversation, etc. Yet she still gives interviews. The public comments have not stopped her from moving forward with interviews, so he should bother especially if he fells as he said, something to the effect of not to worry about him or everything is going to be alright.

He's not accusing her of anything.

 

[cluciano63]

LE has used the fact that Dylan stopped communicating as a reason why they believe he is a crime victim, not a runaway. This, to me, suggests, that they were told nothing about Dylan's phone losing signals, or being broken, etc. that made sense to them. I have not heard anything that makes sense to me, yet, I,know that.

 

[asyousay]

He's not accusing her of anything.

That is hard to do when he wont speak


Plus she is not a suspect as she was 100's of miles away when her son Dylan want missing . So he can not accuse of anything involving the disappearance and so its not noble or anything just because he wont slag her off. Its simply because she is not a suspect here IMO

 

[Dixie811]

I knew I'd get suckered into responding! :blushing: The ball could have been one of the first things taken out of the bag. MR could have thrown it to him to get it out of the way, DR threw it back, and MR threw it again telling him to put it somewhere. It could have been a totally different way, and I doubt any of us will ever know for sure. MOO

I do not know whether I agree with your scenario or not, Confusion, because I simply don't feel that I know enough. HOWEVER, I do really appreciate the idea in your post that how we interpret a brief or vague statement (or imagine things playing out in our heads) MAY or MAY NOT be the way in which something actually happened. For example: in regard to the brief mention MR made about tossing the nerf football with Dylan, I had interpreted this to mean they were out in the yard tossing the ball together for maybe an hour or so. But when you explained how you interpreted that statement, it also fits-- simply because we do not have enough information to know the details.

JMO.