CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[The Cheese]

"In the past few days, La Plata County Sheriff’s Office investigators said they have searched three areas in La Plata County and two other locations in Colorado. Officials said some of the searchers were done on snowshoes and under bridges.

Officials said additional interviews are also being conducted both in the Durango area and outside the area, including other states."

BBM

Colorado Springs is in El Paso county. I'm thinking Elaine's and Cory's homes. Of course, that's only because those are the only two places I can think of Dylan would be and may have used computers.

I wonder what the 3 La Plata county places are. Based on sudden recent events and comments, I bet I could take a good guess, but I also bet it's still not allowed here and I don't want to get in trouble lol.

 

[Dixie811]

I didn't think it said they were searching in other states. But they are doing interviews. Thanks!

Sorry. My mistake!:blushing:

Searching in other areas, and interviewing in other states. =)

 

[scorekeeper]

LE is very careful how they word things. It says Dylan's last elec comm. I take that literally. Not 'last elec comm from a device owned by Dylan'. Not 'somebody sent the last elec comm from a device owned by Dylan'. Just what it says - Dylan's last elec comm.

Just my way of thinking, of course.

perhaps possibly because someone knows what they mean?

 

[NC Analyzer]

LE said it was Dylan. So it had to be something that is associated with Dylan.

Kinda hard to "see" the sender on electronic communication devices. Just saying.

 

[The Cheese]

my opinion on that is they are not divulging the pings *at all*

I think they are just leaking a bit of info out to the public (and stuff that does not impede their investigation)

Agreed. They've never said anything about the pings, except possibly indirectly in that one article on Nov 26th saying the phone had been shut off for several days, and they'd been unable to track it. Just guessing. I'm still going to wait to hear from them directly on pings before I start thinking about them and what the information might mean.

 

[Dixie811]

http://durangoherald.com/article/20130123/NEWS01/130129818/-1/s

I think I can post this because it is MSM??

MR spoke to the Durango Herald via telephone.

 

[nursebeeme]

Kinda hard to "see" the sender on electronic communication devices. Just saying.

so he logs onto another device 10 minutes after his other exchange and has an exchange with someone else (on a device that is not his)?

I agree it is hard to see the sender. But there are ways of determining "style" in electronic messaging.

I think the timeline that was released today are verified accounts that they are willing to release that will not impede their investigation.

:moo:

I have no dog in the race.

I still sit here: :fence:

 

[Bravo]

I have been struck down by the flu so i was not sure if i was missing something . I am glad to know i read your message correctly and was not being stupid:great:

Aww do take care it is a nasty bug :seeya:

 

[NC Analyzer]

So. Let's just take this "new" time information and run with it. If the last communication from the cell was around 8pm and some other communication linked to Dylan (no matter what it was) at 9:37. Let's say nothing between those times, (communication). Leaves 9:37pm to whatever time LE confirmed MR first sighting to be the next morning. I would say approx 10 hours minimum.

 

[Dixie811]

so he logs onto another device 10 minutes after his other exchange and has an exchange with someone else (on a device that is not his)?

I agree it is hard to see the sender. But there are ways of determining "style" in electronic messaging.

I think the timeline that was released today are verified accounts that they are willing to release that will not impede their investigation.

:moo:

I have no dog in the race.

I still sit here: :fence:

I agree, nurse! I think that the events listed in that timeline are absolutely verified.

Note how they did not put a time for Dylan arriving at MR's. Because while it is possible, it is not absolutely verified. In my opinion.

I'll join you here :fence: for the time being.

 

[nursebeeme]

So. Let's just take this "new" time information and run with it. If the last communication from the cell was around 8pm and some other communication linked to Dylan (no matter what it was) at 9:37. Let's say nothing between those times, (communication). Leaves 9:37pm to whatever time LE confirmed MR first sighting to be the next morning. I would say approx 10 hours minimum.

bbm: I will go and copy the texts with friends.. he was texting way after 8pm

 

[NC Analyzer]

so he logs onto another device 10 minutes after his other exchange and has an exchange with someone else (on a device that is not his)?

I agree it is hard to see the sender. But there are ways of determining "style" in electronic messaging.

I think the timeline that was released today are verified accounts that they are willing to release that will not impede their investigation.

:moo:

I have no dog in the race.

I still sit here: :fence:

No, sorry for the confusion. My error. What I was saying is what if something happened between the 8pm time, when the cell went off the radar, and the 9:37 time when "someone" could have used a computer or whatever to complete an electronic communication with whoever. As in MR could have sent a "communication" to a third party and LE has that information. Hope this explains what I'm thinking. :seeya:

 

[nursebeeme]

here is a side by side time comparison for everyone:

Quote:
5:46 p.m. Dylan arrived at Durango-La Plata airport.
7:05 p.m. Dylan at Durango Walmart
7:22 p.m. Dylan at Durango McDonalds
9:37 p.m. Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)
Quote:

LE official timeline above

communication with friend below:

Ryan Nava: (time 6:43 p.m. Nov. 18) Im in pagosa coming

Dylan Redwine: Cant come srry ill hang tommarow

Ryan: Ok

Ryan: (time 7:09 p.m. Nov. 18) Why

Dylan: idk

Ryan: (time 7:45 p.m. Nov. 18) Did your dad say no

Dylan: (time 8:01 p.m. Nov. 18) yea

Ryan: Oh ok

Dylan: can I come over early lkke 6 30 early tomarrow

Ryan: Yeah

Dylan: you better let me in

Ryan: I will

Ryan: im gonna be at my gmas

Dylan: i call (you) all day if you dont

Ryan: Ok

Dylan: will you gma care or be up

Ryan: Just come around to were the sliding door is were that room is and knock on it and i will wake up

Ryan: (Time 9:27 p.m. Nov. 18) Call me when you get here too
http://www.durangoherald.com/article...WS01/121219687

Dylan's last electronic communication (text) 9:37 was last per LE but no details.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No, sorry for the confusion. My error. What I was saying is what if something happened at the 8pm time the cell went off the radar and the 9:37 time when "someone" could have used a computer or whatever to complete an electronic communication with whoever. As in MR could have sent a "communication" to a third party and LE has that information. Hope this explains what I'm thinking. :seeya:

I don't recall were LE said that the cell phone was "off" at 8 PM. Did I miss something?

 

[nursebeeme]

No, sorry for the confusion. My error. What I was saying is what if something happened between the 8pm time, when the cell went off the radar, and the 9:37 time when "someone" could have used a computer or whatever to complete an electronic communication with whoever. As in MR could have sent a "communication" to a third party and LE has that information. Hope this explains what I'm thinking. :seeya:

the phone does not appear to have gone off the radar at 8pm

(I just posted above)

perhaps it is based on forensics back on the phone? idk

 

[NC Analyzer]

bbm: I will go and copy the texts with friends.. he was texting way after 8pm

Nevermind. Because that would be where we disagree. I believe all those initial texts between D and R were very close to the 8pm hour and then at 9:27 R sent out the last text with no reply from D.

 

[Dixie811]

In my personal opinion, this last communication from Dylan was verified by LE so if it wasn't from Dylan's phone or possibly iPod... say if it was on a computer, it would have been on one of Dylan's personal accounts that he would have had to log into. Why else would LE be so sure it was him? & I don't get the impression that MR knew Dylan quite well enough that he would be able to log-in to any of Dylan's social media accounts, computer apps, etc.

Just thinking out loud:waitasec:

 

[The Cheese]

I agree, nurse! I think that the events listed in that timeline are absolutely verified.

Note how they did not put a time for Dylan arriving at MR's. Because while it is possible, it is not absolutely verified. In my opinion.

I'll join you here :fence: for the time being.

Or it is verified, but they're holding that back, along with all the other info they're holding back.

 

[SmoothOperator]

the times that ER gave do not match the timeline.

that is what I meant by that.

eta: they know more and they are not sharing it imhoo

I respectfully disagree.. Elaine's statements are in line with the timeline IMO.. she says her son last communicated(as in sent text/call) a little after 8pm..

that coincides PERFECTLY IMO with the known timeline that Dylan last sent a text msg to RN a little after 8pm.. that's it..we have nothing else showing that Dylan SENT TEXT/CALLED anyone after that last text to RN..we have several texts RECEIVED by Dylan's phone, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING showing that Dylan initiated or replied to any communication after that point.

And IMO that's what Elaine has said as well..last text/call FROM Dylan's phone a little after 8pm..jmo.
**I understand that some believe that there is a statement that Dylan sent a text/call at 9:37pm, but IMO there is absolutely nothing stating it was SENT, RATHER THAN RECEIVED..MOO I don't see that clarified at all..jmo.

 

[nursebeeme]

I respectfully disagree.. Elaine's statements are in line with the timeline IMO.. she says her son last communicated(as in sent text/call) a little after 8pm..

that coincides PERFECTLY IMO with the known timeline that Dylan last sent a text msg to RN a little after 8pm.. that's it..we have nothing else showing that Dylan SENT TEXT/CALLED anyone after that last text to RN..we have several texts RECEIVED by Dylan's phone, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING showing that Dylan initiated or replied to any communication after that point.

And IMO that's what Elaine has said as well..last text/call FROM Dylan's phone a little after 8pm..jmo.

there is not anything known about this latest communication.. so it could well be something she was not aware of.:twocents: