CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #28

[NC Analyzer]

One of my 1001 different theories is that he was texting someone making arrangements to meet near the house the next morning - not at the house so they didn't have to worry about someone driving by and seeing the car there. If he told the person what time MR was leaving, and when he expected to be back, it would be easy enough to set up a time to meet somewhere between the two times. If told not to talk to anyone else until after they met, it could explain why he never contacted anyone. MOO

So, with all those text arrangements he made, somehow LE didn't get those records? I don't think so.
JMO

 

[Confusion]

Dylan was supposed to be getting dropped off in bayfield at 6.30am monday morning and MR didn't leave until 7.30am so wouldn't that have thrown a spanner into any plan?

Not if they planned to meet at 9 am or so.

 

[yupikgirl]

No problems yupikgirl I feel the same way often when people post about what boys Dylan's age are supposed to do or not. I have two boys around the same age myself and am often thinking that mine must just be rather irregular, as their behaviour usually doesn't fit with what others say here.

The texting facility surprises me as I don't know that I had even heard of it until this case, and I do consider everyone my household to be pretty tech savvy. I guess that unless I really needed it, it's possibly an app (is it an app?) I wouldn't go looking for.
:moo:

It's not an app. It's part of the software...it's called iMessage. It uses wifi and you can text between anyone with an apple device. My 8 year old doesn't have a phone, but she has a touch and is able to text us on our phones if we are out (and she is with her sister babysitting). She also "texts" her little friends who also have iPod touches...put in quotes because she doesn't do it often.

Eta the iMessage is part of the software, but not available for the iPod touch 1st and 2nd generation. The rest can be updated to include iMessage, but not those.

 

[Seajay]

I think that what LE meant was that 9:37 pm was the last text sent from Dylan. I don't think anyone else got their hands on his device and was sending out messages. Anyone would be able to tell if it was from Dylan or not by the syntax. Big difference between the way one person texts and another person texts.

 

[Confusion]

So, with all those text arrangements he made, somehow LE didn't get those records? I don't think so.
JMO

How do you know they don't have records of more being sent? They said the last communication was at 9:37 pm, but it doesn't say there were no others from some source other than his phone. I'm taking ER's word for it that the last activity on the phone was shortly after 8 pm.

 

[Seajay]

It's not an app. It's part of the software...it's called iMessage. It uses wifi and you can text between anyone with an apple device. My 8 year old doesn't have a phone, but she has a touch and is able to text us on our phones if we are out (and she is with her sister babysitting). She also "texts" her little friends who also have iPod touches...put in quotes because she doesn't do it often.

As I said earlier, my granddaughter texts me from her iPod. It's not a iPod touch, it's an old iPod her mother gave her that she was bored with. It was not brand new. My granddaughter is only 10, she doesn't need new high tech devices yet.......she doesn't have a life yet. LOL

 

[Seajay]

How do you know they don't have records of more being sent? They said the last communication was at 9:37 pm, but it doesn't say there were no others from some source other than his phone. I'm taking ER's word for it that the last activity on the phone was shortly after 8 pm.

And for all we know, from 8:01 pm til 9:37 pm, he sent multiple texts to multiple people. JMO There is nothing to prove it one way or the other. Just like there is nothing to prove it was Mark who sent the text at 9:37 pm.

 

[asyousay]

It seems like a very small community and Dylan grew up there and had very close friends who helped with the search and to this day are still helping out . So it seems they all know each other pretty well and I honestly don't believe that Dylan was texting somebody that R was not aware of and it has never been mentioned .

MOO

 

[Confusion]

It seems like a very small community and Dylan grew up there and had very close friends who helped with the search and to this day are still helping out . So it seems they all know each other pretty well and I honestly don't believe that Dylan was texting somebody that R was not aware of and it has never been mentioned .

MOO

If it was someone who was going to pick him up, it wasn't likely to be another 13 year old. MOO

 

[asyousay]

If it was someone who was going to pick him up, it wasn't likely to be another 13 year old. MOO

Ah ok

But why make plans with Ryan and seem so eager about them or do you think the texts later on made him change his mind ?


ETA - I have not been awake long so still catching up .

 

[yupikgirl]

As I said earlier, my granddaughter texts me from her iPod. It's not a iPod touch, it's an old iPod her mother gave her that she was bored with. It was not brand new. My granddaughter is only 10, she doesn't need new high tech devices yet.......she doesn't have a life yet. LOL

Yes I believe this was discussed earlier. I wasn't sure if I had taken part in that or just read LOL. To be completely accurate though its an iPod touch (your granddaughters) or an old iphone being used as an ipod without the phone service otherwise she wouldn't be able to text. It doesn't have to be new they have been out a while...I believe they are on 5th generation right now Anyway just so there isn't any confusion later if we find out he didn't have a touch and it was a different kind of iPod LOL. Not being nit picky I swear!

 

[PaulR]

I agree. I guess we should try to find out if it was an iPod touch....otherwise all this discussion about texting with the touch doesn't matter.

Even if it was an iTouch, you'd still need (a) WiFi, and (b) the access code. I'm not sure MR has wifi - if he has a standard desktop computer, he wouldn't need it anyway. Not all routers come with wifi built in - the one for my DSL doesn't.

 

[NC Analyzer]

If it was someone who was going to pick him up, it wasn't likely to be another 13 year old. MOO

I sincerely doubt Dylan was texting someone of driving age in CS and made arrangements to be picked up 5 hours away during a visit to dad's house. Why bother to do this at dad's house. How would Dylan even know his dad would be leaving the house the next morning prior to his arrival? What about spending the time with his friends. If he planned to be with his friends, how would he establish a meeting time with anyone.
I also doubt Dylan was texting anyone in CS that his mom didn't know about. And I seriously doubt Dylan was texting anyone that LE doesn't have wind of. And if LE knows, then why the current status on this investigation. LE's entire attitude toward Dylan's disappearance isn't exactly something that promotes the abduction speculation. Don't you think if they had any credible evidence, that someone, anyone else, was responsible for any of this, that LE wouldn't be leaving MR blowing in the wind? Clearly, LE knows the public perception of MR. I've heard, and I'm more than aware of LE tactics of traps, deception, etc. but in this case I'm also certain that LE would NOT let that man hang out to dry...especially in light of some of the "vigilante justice" talk that has been very loud coming from that area. Nope, don't see any of this as realistic. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Okay, kind of weird, lol. My phone just died. I had to go online and find one of those free sites and send a text to my husband at work to let him know I am without a phone. It worked, also, my IP address came up on the screen, FWIW.

 

[Confusion]

Ah ok

But why make plans with Ryan and seem so eager about them or do you think the texts later on made him change his mind ?

ETA - I have not been awake long so still catching up .

If he was talking to the person through the ipod or computer, he would have to be at the house already. If his phone died on the way, he could have put it on the charger and started using the ipod shortly after they got there. IF MR was putting away groceries, taking a shower, or whatever, he may not have realized DR was texting on it if he did it while laying in front of the tv. It's possible that MR said something that irritated him enough to make him decide to just leave the next morning. If he fell asleep shortly after 9:30, he might not have gotten around to cancelling his plans for the next day, or he may have been told not to say anything. MOO

 

[Confusion]

I sincerely doubt Dylan was texting someone of driving age in CS and made arrangements to be picked up 5 hours away during a visit to dad's house. Why bother to do this at dad's house. How would Dylan even know his dad would be leaving the house the next morning prior to his arrival? What about spending the time with his friends. If he planned to be with his friends, how would he establish a meeting time with anyone.
I also doubt Dylan was texting anyone in CS that his mom didn't know about. And I seriously doubt Dylan was texting anyone that LE doesn't have wind of. And if LE knows, then why the current status on this investigation. LE's entire attitude toward Dylan's disappearance isn't exactly something that promotes the abduction speculation. Don't you think if they had any credible evidence, that someone, anyone else, was responsible for any of this, that LE wouldn't be leaving MR blowing in the wind? Clearly, LE knows the public perception of MR. I've heard, and I'm more than aware of LE tactics of traps, deception, etc. but in this case I'm also certain that LE would NOT let that man hang out to dry...especially in light of some of the "vigilante justice" talk that has been very loud coming from that area. Nope, don't see any of this as realistic. JMO

I didn't say anything about CS, and never said anything about discussing it prior to his arrival. If the other person also used something other than a cell phone, and used an alias, LE may not have figured out for sure who it was yet. I know many people who have dozens of email addresses (for various reasons) and one could be used to send text messages using a number of hot spots. I don't find it any more unrealistic than several theories I've read. JMO

 

[NC Analyzer]

Perhaps it's just me, and forgive me for what I'm about to say because it is difficult. I mean no disrespect to anyone's theories or ideas but I have to say this; although it is difficult/heartbreaking/unfair/unthinkable to think MR is responsible for what happened to Dylan, I cannot imagine that some perv who made "friends" with Dylan, drove 5 hours to pick him up and managed to disappear without ANY trace would be a kinder option. I no longer believe this child is with us. If I am left to tussle with this thought, I have to say it is a better option than what could have been, or is currently what is happening to this child in the hands of some pervert. Sometimes death isn't the worst thing. JMO

 

[Seajay]

Yes I believe this was discussed earlier. I wasn't sure if I had taken part in that or just read LOL. To be completely accurate though its an iPod touch (your granddaughters) or an old iphone being used as an ipod without the phone service otherwise she wouldn't be able to text. It doesn't have to be new they have been out a while...I believe they are on 5th generation right now Anyway just so there isn't any confusion later if we find out he didn't have a touch and it was a different kind of iPod LOL. Not being nit picky I swear!

Ok, thanks. I saw it once and it looked just like an iPhone. It was the same size. I thought the iPod touch was new thing cuz everyone is making such a big deal out of it now.

 

[Seajay]

I didn't say anything about CS, and never said anything about discussing it prior to his arrival. If the other person also used something other than a cell phone, and used an alias, LE may not have figured out for sure who it was yet. I know many people who have dozens of email addresses (for various reasons) and one could be used to send text messages using a number of hot spots. I don't find it any more unrealistic than several theories I've read. JMO

There is always the burner phone theory. But that wouldn't be traceable. LISK used burner phones to call the families of his victims and did so from crowded places like Madison Square Garden and Times Square. That's why he's still foot loose and fancy free.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I didn't say anything about CS, and never said anything about discussing it prior to his arrival. If the other person also used something other than a cell phone, and used an alias, LE may not have figured out for sure who it was yet. I know many people who have dozens of email addresses (for various reasons) and one could be used to send text messages using a number of hot spots. I don't find it any more unrealistic than several theories I've read. JMO

So if this person wasn't from CS, then either D met him on the plane, (which I'm sure has been checked out) or was someone known to him from the Bayfield area...in which case, I'm pretty sure a long distance relationship over several months would also have been checked out by LE. How else do you propose this child "met" someone that he kept a "secret"? Techniques being used by SS can trace almost any technology on the market these days. LE might not have a "real" name, but they would have a location(s) from any communication sent. So, that would leave Bayfield or the plane. Dylan's life wasn't exactly international. JMO