CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[TxJan1971]

Dylan Redwine's father, Mark Redwine, reported the 13-year-old missing midday Nov. 19 from his house in the Vallecito area, about 22 miles northeast of Durango.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/task-force-searches-home-of-dylan-redwines-father-does-not-call-father-a-suspect

Mark Redwine alerted law enforcement about Dylan’s absence just before 6 p.m. Nov. 19, Bender said.

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...ment-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away--

Mark called Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshall’s Office.
http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/...ts-wait-wonder

BBM - It was in my previous post - MR went to Bayfield Marshall's office.

 

[TxJan1971]

I asked before and didn't get an answer, but reportedly MR had planned on driving DR to his friends house in Bayfield on Monday morning before he ran his errands. However, when MR came home, couldn't find DR, texted him, looked around for him and still couldn't find him, MR drove to a VALLECITO friend's home. Why? Who is the friend(s) in Vallecito? Where is that location in relation to MR's house? Why hasn't anyone (MR, ER, CR, Bayfield friends) spoken about "friends" in Vallecito? Does this friend(s) exist?
JMO

 

[asyousay]

Do Marks neighbors live that close to Mark's house ?

So for example would they be able to see lights switched on the Sunday night or the cars in the drive way ?

 

[TxJan1971]

Sounds like MR didn't 'think' to call LE until ER said it needed doing.
Either he wanted to wait as long as possible to report it OR he thought
the boy will show up any time now, let's not raise a ruckus. I find it
very plausible that a male would think we can wait him out, he'll show up,
no reason to get all worked up . That is typical male thinking in situations
like this, I think. OR , like I said, he was wanting the extra hours by not
reporting it. Thoughts ?

Maybe MR wasn't truly alarmed yet thinking "harm" had come to DR. Maybe he just felt he took off - got out of the house - was with his friends - was out and about and was not truly worried until DR wouldn't return his calls/texts and then until ER said they should contact the sheriff's office.

(This is just a "Suggestion" to possibly explain MR's actions and not necessarily my personal feeling)

 

[TxJan1971]

Another statement by MR - he wasn't alarmed:

When he got back at 11:30, his son's dirty cereal bowl was beside the sink. The television was on Nickelodeon. His son's fishing pole was gone. So was his black-and-gray backpack. A few articles of clothing were left behind on the couch.
"His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed," Mark said.

http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/ci_22110078/dad-its-wait-wonder

 

[SCHMAE]

Maybe MR wasn't truly alarmed yet thinking "harm" had come to DR. Maybe he just felt he took off - got out of the house - was with his friends - was out and about and was not truly worried until DR wouldn't return his calls/texts and then until ER said they should contact the sheriff's office.

(This is just a "Suggestion" to possibly explain MR's actions and not necessarily my personal feeling)

Right, I think men are much harder to ALARM than women when it comes to the kids. Kid falls outta the tree, mom says we go to the hospital, that arm is broken. Dad says just wait for the swelling to go down and we'll see if he can still use it. That's how I'm interpreting this ........ or he wanted more time. It's a toss up.

 

[TxJan1971]

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cell phone service.
When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.

Mark became alarmed and drove the 20 miles to Bayfield. Dylan's friends there hadn't seen him either. Mark called (TEXTED) Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshal's Office.

http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/ci_22110078/dad-its-wait-wonder

 

[asyousay]

Another statement by MR - he wasn't alarmed:

When he got back at 11:30, his son's dirty cereal bowl was beside the sink. The television was on Nickelodeon. His son's fishing pole was gone. So was his black-and-gray backpack. A few articles of clothing were left behind on the couch.
"His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed," Mark said.

http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/ci_22110078/dad-its-wait-wonder

And yet we are meant to believe Dylan slept in and why make plans to pick Dylan up if he knew he would not stick around ?!

 

[Eileen730]

BBM - It was in my previous post - MR went to Bayfield Marshall's office.

did he go missing from Bayfield or vallecito?

 

[SCHMAE]

did he go missing from Bayfield or vallecito?

I'm guessing Vallecito has no sheriff. Small towns have to get help from the ' county seat' sheriff department. I wouldn't be surprised if Vallecito doesnt' even have their own PD.

 

[TxJan1971]

Depends on which way you look at it. If he went missing from MR's home, then it should be he went missing from Vallecito, which is what most reports state.

I think MR was physically in the Bayfield area and that is the only reason he went to the Bayfield Marshall's office. He was there after checking with DR's friends to see where DR was - when he wasn't there - that's when he just went to Bayfield Marshall's office. JMO though...

 

[Eileen730]

Id love to know where Dylans last cell ping was!

 

[SCHMAE]

I don't think Vallecito has a PD. I tried to google it. Please someone else try and see. I type in vallecito co police and the options that all come up say BAYFIELD. I think Vallecito is so tiny, they must be covered under Bayfield's jurisdiction.

 

[Salem]

Can you explain why they waited ten days to search the place he was last said to be, in any real way? When they have stated that they begin to think it was a criminal case by day two.

IMO, either they are not being honest about how long they treated him as a runaway, or there is indeed a turnip truck nearby.

This is a bit inaccurate and should be put in context. LE did search MR's house, with his consent before the search warrant search. So... they didn't wait 10 days. They responded to the situation, looked at the surrounding circumstances, did what they felt was needed at that point. Imo, they really thought they had a runaway on their hands in the beginning. And that makes sense. Dylan didn't want to go to his dad's, sent a scowly message to mom, couldn't go to his friends right away, was known to hitchhike by his friends. It wasn't until LE managed to gather more info and time went by, that LE determined this was more than a runaway case and went for warrants.

But by that time, LE had already searched MR's house. A consent search is legal and won't violate the 4th Amend. and LE knows that - so I would think that they did more than just a cursory search before the warrant. Of course I don't know and I doubt they are going to tell us, but they didn't wait 10 days and just a further note (not from your post) - MR did not demand a warrant, he gave consent.

Salem

 

[asyousay]

This is a bit inaccurate and should be put in context. LE did search MR's house, with his consent before the search warrant search. So... they didn't wait 10 days. They responded to the situation, looked at the surrounding circumstances, did what they felt was needed at that point. Imo, they really thought they had a runaway on their hands in the beginning. And that makes sense. Dylan didn't want to go to his dad's, sent a scowly message to mom, couldn't go to his friends right away, was known to hitchhike by his friends. It wasn't until LE managed to gather more info and time went by, that LE determined this was more than a runaway case and went for warrants.

But by that time, LE had already searched MR's house. A consent search is legal and won't violate the 4th Amend. and LE knows that - so I would think that they did more than just a cursory search before the warrant. Of course I don't know and I doubt they are going to tell us, but they didn't wait 10 days and just a further note (not from your post) - MR did not demand a warrant, he gave consent.

Salem

But anything tangible like DNA would not of been taken in the first search which is stupid IMO. The Bowl , tv remote and anything that Dylan was meant to have touched should of been taken even as a precautionary measure :cow:

 

[SCHMAE]

Well honestly if MR is guilty of doing something with DR ,it would absolutely behoove him to point everyone in the direction of a runaway at first and let the trail go cold, right. Things like ( paraphrasing) 'his friends mean a lot to him, i wasn't concerned, i dont think he's even in the area now' all point to a probable runaway. By the time LE eliminates that option, any trail is cold, most evidence removed or ruined.
Do we know or has anyone looked previously into the trash situation? When and how often his trash is picked up and where does it go or does he burn it or is there city/ trash? I'm guessing no city trash since I just looked up any city service for Vallecito and the closest I got was a Vallecito Water co !

 

[TxJan1971]

Investigators searched Mark Redwine’s home initially last week. (Week of 11-19-2012)

Thursday’s search (11/28/2012 - warrant) was considered more thorough.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/302104/339/Feds-search-missing-teens-dads-home

 

[azgrandma]

Tell me if I am crazy but seems I remember way back at the beginning that MR (I think) said in an interview that they had all met. Seems they were all together at someplace and they discussed what was going on. Did I just dream that or wish it? jmo

You're crazy. *jk because you said "tell me if I am crazy'*

MR did not met with ER & CR in the beginning, he met with CR and his oldest son.

 

[TxLady2]

Nancy Grace is msm.

Also, the protest/vigil was posted in the FB. And that is why the press called him---to ask about the protest. And the protest was set up in order to get him to answer questions and agree to a new poly. So it makes no sense that he didn't refute the accusations if they are untrue. :moo:

Yes... but what you hear on NG may or may not be true when it comes from anyone other than LE. IOW, those rumors started because of what Elaine said, and she was not clear in her answers. At the end of that interview, there is nothing definite, just that she believes it was inconsistent, and that she does not know if he was asked to take another poly. Before that, she thought he failed, and then she didn't know for sure.
Personally, I am not going to take anyone's word for it unless it comes straight from LE.
As far as him not refuting accusations, why should he? He knows they are not going to believe him anyway. He could tell him the sun rises in the east and sets in the west and they would call him a liar.
That rally was set up to harass and intimidate him... it was not to get answers. What made them think he would come out and talk to his ex-wife and son in a whole crowd of people? That's idiotic. If you want answers from someone you meet with them in person, without 25 other people looking on.
I can't imagine what they hoped to accomplish when they were standing out there in the cold holding signs in front of an empty house. Lot of good that did, since he wasn't even there.
JMO

 

[TxJan1971]

More about the search of MR's home 11-28-2012 (warrant search):

Fifteen members of the search task force arrived at Mark Redwine's home at 8:30 this morning (11-28-2012); it included members of the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI, according to the sheriff's office.

From same article - talks about initial search of MR's home Week of 11-19-2012:

La Plata County Sheriff spokesman Dan Bender told ABCNews.com that when Dylan was first reported missing, authorities checked Dylan's father's home to see if the boy was there. Dylan was visiting his father for the Thanksgiving holiday (his parents are divorced).

"We were checking the basement and other rooms, we were seeing if there had been something left on the bed, like his cellphone," Bender said. "We weren't doing a very meticulous search." (referring to initial search week of 11-19-2012)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/investigators-search-home-missing-colo-boys-father/story?id=17840755