CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[NC Analyzer]

It's not all on the father's shoulders though. Kinda hard to get past being publically accused of doing something horrid to your child, then being expected to make nice with them.

I get it, someone has to be blamed. Someone always has to blame someone else and point fingers for their own feelings. Instead of looking at this with an open mind, the finger got pointed right away and accusations were made. It's hard to unring that bell. Look what it's created. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Life is hard. I would think it would be unbearable to have my child go missing. Sometimes we just have to deal with it, man-up and face the demons that make life hard. I would think a "father" wouldn't care about what "people" are saying about him if his focus was on his missing child. If a "father" is "upset" about what people are saying about him, then maybe he should do something to change that. He only has himself to blame.
JMO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

BBM

And they shouldn't. But it seems they are not stopping the pointing of fingers at Mark. Why not?

Why should they? Their investigating the case of a missing person and I don't see why they should placate the public's curiosity about who is or is not a suspect.

I can see why they are keeping things close to their vest until it's time to make an arrest. MOO.

 

[Seajay]

LE has NOT named anyone a suspect. LE has also not cleared anyone in this case. They are still investigating. They have ways to prove or disprove certain things. I, for one, am going to let them do their job. Their job is to find Dylan. Once they do that, then they can find out who is responsible. IMO

 

[NC Analyzer]

BBM
I'm not focused on Mark Redwine and I haven't seen anything to suggest that LE is focused solely on him either. MOO.

I did not say LE is focused "solely" on MR. Please read my sentence. I said they are allowing this negative perception to continue. There is a reason behind that.

JMO and MOO

 

[The Cheese]

BBM

And they shouldn't. But it seems they are not stopping the pointing of fingers at Mark. Why not?

It's not their job :twocents:

 

[nursebeeme]

Discuss the case. Not each other.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I did not say LE is focused "solely" on MR. Please read my sentence. I said they are allowing this negative perception to continue. There is a reason behind that.

JMO and MOO

I was making an observation. I don't agree that LE is purposely allowing this negative perception to continue. MOO.

 

[scorekeeper]

Why should they? Their investigating the case of a missing person and I don't see why they should placate the public's curiosity about who is or is not a suspect.

I can see why they are keeping things close to their vest until it's time to make an arrest. MOO.

My point was -

LE can stop this madness and finger pointing surrounding Mark

but - Why haven't they??

 

[Deleted member 39678]

My point was -

LE can stop this madness and finger pointing surrounding Mark

but - Why haven't they??

I guess we have to agree to disagree on this one. I see no reason to keep going back and forth so I'm moving on.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I was making an observation. I don't agree that LE is purposely allowing this negative perception to continue. MOO.

Well I guess we agree to disagree, because I know for a FACT that this is one of LE's tactical moves when they are involved in a situation such as this. Take it or leave it.

JMO and MOO

 

[Eileen730]

It's not their job :twocents:

Its Marks!

LE wont speak for Mark Redwine they wont say he took passed or failed a poly thats entirely up to MR and for some reason he cant ans these questions or just wont! Heck if it were me id be talking! He's been dragging his feet for so long since day one when he waited till 4 30 to text Elaine and tell her her son is missing.

Something is very very wrong with this picture.

All JMO

 

[Darcyline]

My point was -

LE can stop this madness and finger pointing surrounding Mark

but - Why haven't they??

They often don't. I have seen multiple other cases where they have let someone twist in the wind while they had another suspect or strongly suspected the person was not guilty. LE is not like...a library where all information is displayed openly and honestly. Their focus is Dylan-not whether people are gossiping about someone else. Sometimes they even deliberately let it happen to take pressure off a real suspect.
Do I think that is happening in this case? Probably not. I do think they cannot rule MR in or out. So, they just say nothing really even though there is a chance he is innocent.

 

[cluciano63]

I totally agree that LE is purposely keeping the public focused on MR. They were driven, for whatever reason, to speak out this week, after weeks of silence, and yet said nothing to at all discourage thinking about MR as a POI, even in the most subtle way, when it would have been easy and timely to do so. LE in other cases has made a point to rule out a parent when possible, especially if the public was speculating, i.e Jessica, Sierra, etc. and in those cases, the speculation had not reached a frenzy as this one has. Yet they chose not to.

They also did not take this opportunity, which due to the gathering was all about how MR is not talking to his son, to say that he is still talking and cooperating with them. That stands out to me.
Nor did they take an opportunity to remind the public to think back to that morning, who they saw and did not see, etc.

 

[scorekeeper]

“We cannot show all our cards, so to speak, he said. “If were to keep the public informed, we also would be keeping potential suspects informed.”

Bender said he knows this is frustrating for the public, and he admitted the case has been dificult for law enforcement as well.

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/

 

[The Cheese]

Its Marks!

No, it's not the job of someone who is being vilified, harassed, insulted, abused, bullied etc to stop it. Victims are not to blame. I absolutely do not and will not subscribe to that. Not ever.

I spent too many years as an abuse victim blaming myself, thinking I could stop it, begging, pleading, and every other damn thing. I spent too many years crying and in pain. Too many years in agony. Too many years in counseling working hard to stop thinking that way and feeling that way.

No, no, no, no, no, no, and no. Never.

:twocents:

 

[Dixie811]

IMO, even if LE does not believe MR to be responsible for MR's disappearance they would not come out and say that they know him to have no involvement in his son's disappearance, totally innocent, etc.

Because I don't believe they know exactly what happened. So, they could always come into new information later indicating that MR was indeed involved. It's possible that they don't believe MR to be involved at this time. But until they know what exactly did happen to Dylan, they can't really say for sure that he isn't.

Just my opinion!

 

[NC Analyzer]

I totally agree that LE is purposely keeping the public focused on MR. They were driven, for whatever reason, to speak out this week, after weeks of silence, and yet said nothing to at all discourage thinking about MR as a POI, even in the most subtle way, when it would have been easy and timely to do so. LE in other cases has made a point to rule out a parent when possible, especially if the public was speculating, i.e Jessica, Sierra, etc. and in those cases, the speculation had not reached a frenzy as this one has. Yet they chose not to.

They also did not take this opportunity, which due to the gathering was all about how MR is not talking to his son, to say that he is still talking and cooperating with them. That stands out to me.
Nor did they take an opportunity to remind the public to think back to that morning, who they saw and did not see, etc.

Exactly. And the word "subtle" is the most important word in your entire comment. That is how it is done. Say "nothing" publicly about a POI, but subtly direct the perception to the unnamed suspect to see if anything will result. Honestly, this isn't a big secret.

JMO and MOO

 

[Eileen730]

This was interesting!

http://listverse.com/2011/07/11/10-tragic-cases-of-missing-children/



Eloise Worledge

The case was reopened more than 20 years after the events but no clues have yet been found to indicate what happened to Eloise Worledge. The father did agree on the day of her disappearance to take a lie-detector test but this was not done until 25 years later. The results were inconclusive

 

[NC Analyzer]

IMO, even if LE does not believe MR to be responsible for MR's disappearance they would not come out and say that they know him to have no involvement in his son's disappearance, totally innocent, etc.

Because I don't believe they know exactly what happened. So, they could always come into new information later indicating that MR was indeed involved. It's possible that they don't believe MR to be involved at this time. But until they know what exactly did happen to Dylan, they can't really say for sure that he isn't.

Just my opinion!

YES. Absolutely correct. They will "shake that tree" as much as they can to see what falls out.

JMO and MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No, it's not the job of someone who is being vilified, harassed, insulted, abused, bullied etc to stop it. Victims are not to blame. I absolutely do not and will not subscribe to that. Not ever.

I spent too many years as an abuse victim blaming myself, thinking I could stop it, begging, pleading, and every other damn thing. I spent too many years crying and in pain. Too many years in agony. Too many years in counseling working hard to stop thinking that way and feeling that way.

No, no, no, no, no, no, and no. Never.

:twocents:

Well said. I guess it's "your guilty until you prove that you're innocent" in this country now. Sad.