CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[Dee10]

Authorities executed an extensive search warrant Nov. 29 at the father’s home.


Several forensic test results have been returned, and the Sheriff’s Office is working jointly with the FBI to review the results, Bender said. Additional interviews are being conducted both locally and outside the region, he said.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...tigators:-'We-want-to-leave-no-stone-unturned'

BBM

I take this to mean based on the test results they received, they are going to be doing additional interviews. Don't know if that means for people they previously interviewed or people they have never interviewed...or both

I also wonder how it may tie in with releasing the timeline for Sat. night? Releasing the timeline over two months later seems a little strange if they are hoping someone remembers something IMO.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Is it possible that they did take the cereal bowl and whatever else was said to be left behind when they did their initial search? I don't remember hearing one way or the other about it. I know they said they looked through the house, would they take anything that day without a SW?

If they did remove things from Marks home without a warrant there might be admissibility problems if it goes to trial. Even if he gave permission to take the items they may have had to document that he understood that it could be used against him later on in court.

I'm not a lawyer so I may be off base with my opinion.

 

[Confusion]

If they did remove things from Marks home without a warrant there might be admissibility problems if it goes to trial. Even if he gave permission to take the items they may have had to document that he understood that it could be used against him later on in court.

I'm not a lawyer so I may be off base with my opinion.

I'm not one either, that's why I asked. I've been fortunate enough to never have to deal with searches of my home, with or without a warrant.

 

[Angelonline]

Maybe it was because something had led them to believe someone else might be responsible?

Personally I believe its because they thought he was a runaway. I also don't think local LE is used to dealing with this sort of crime. What day did the FBI come in? Wasn't it right before the forensic search and in depth questioning took place? I don't remember for sure but I know someone here probably knows what day they actually came in on the case.

 

[katydid23]

ER and CR certainly believe MR has taken a poly and that those results were inconclusive. Does anyone believe this is something they simply made up to throw suspicion on Mark? True or not, this information came from someone. LE is well aware of what is being said in interviews and written on facebook. IMO, if this is false information, LE should correct this misapprehension because it could hinder the investigation. A public which suspects Mark is much less likely to look for a possibly live child or to report suspicious behavior. I don't know if it's true that Mark has taken an LDT and has been asked to take another, but I do believe ER and CR are sincere in their statements. All MOO.

Cory has made a very public call out of MR. I think MR would have denied it publicly if it was false. He recently did a phone interview where he discussed the protest that was scheduled to be in his yard, and he could have easily answered his son's accusations right then and there, if they were unfounded. JMO:moo:

 

[jjenny]

Personally I believe its because they thought he was a runaway. I also don't think local LE is used to dealing with this sort of crime. What day did the FBI come in? Wasn't it right before the forensic search and in depth questioning took place? I don't remember for sure but I know someone here probably knows what day they actually came in on the case.

I agree. I believe they thought he run away from his father. I don't think the local police was able to deal well with that sort of crime because they lack experience.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Especially since they have said they considered a crime had occurred within two days or so. I do not understand how another week was allowed to elapse before beginning these parts of the process.

Do you know if Marks house was treated as a crime scene and he didn't have access to it until after the search warrant was executed? Or did he voluntary stay away while LE investigated? Or was he there the whole time until LE executed the search warrant?

 

[katydid23]

Personally I believe its because they thought he was a runaway. I also don't think local LE is used to dealing with this sort of crime. What day did the FBI come in? Wasn't it right before the forensic search and in depth questioning took place? I don't remember for sure but I know someone here probably knows what day they actually came in on the case.

We had two locals discuss this back at the start. They said the local LE was very experienced with Search and Rescue and they immediately went into that mode. And it was probably the correct decision, because if an injured or lost young teen was out in those woods, he would have needed an immediate and urgent response. Imagine if they took the time out initially to interrogate dad and bring in forensics, while his son was freezing to death in a ditch by the lake.

And the local authorities almost always deal with 'missing hikers' and rarely kidnappings/homicides. So it makes sense they rolled out the way they did. JMO

 

[Confusion]

I have no idea what questions ER and CR want answered, but there are a few I'd love to have answers to. For instance:

1. What was Dylan's mood when he went to bed Sunday night?
2. Was the door locked when he got home Monday?
3. Was the cereal bowl wet, damp or dry when he first saw it?
4. Has DR ever walked to the market (or whatever it's called down the road) on other visits?
5. Did he tell anyone the results of his LDT, or that he'd been asked to take a second one? If so, who?

I'll quit now. I can think of a lot more, but I'm not going to get them answered anyway, so what's the difference? :banghead:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Cory has made a very public call out of MR. I think MR would have denied it publicly if it was false. He recently did a phone interview where he discussed the protest that was scheduled to be in his yard, and he could have easily answered his son's accusations right then and there, if they were unfounded. JMO:moo:

Maybe Mark understands the fact that this polygraph Facebook rumor is not in MSM so he didn't want to bring it up during his media phone interview. MOO.

 

[katydid23]

Do you know if Marks house was treated as a crime scene and he didn't have access to it until after the search warrant was executed? Or did he voluntary stay away while LE investigated? Or was he there the whole time until LE executed the search warrant?

He was there the whole time, and his brother was visiting as well.

 

[katydid23]

Maybe Mark understands the fact that this polygraph Facebook rumor is not in MSM so he didn't want to bring it up during his media phone interview. MOO.

Nancy Grace is msm.

Also, the protest/vigil was posted in the FB. And that is why the press called him---to ask about the protest. And the protest was set up in order to get him to answer questions and agree to a new poly. So it makes no sense that he didn't refute the accusations if they are untrue. :moo:

 

[Berry]

Where is Dylan??? Focus on Dylan. I hope and pray each day he's alive.

Jumping off your post Seajay, how you going to find a missing person?

1. Act fast. Go to the police immediately. Reporting the missing person quickly improves your chance of finding the individual. MR DID NOT ACT FAST.

2. Give the details for the events leading up to the disappearance. Provide any information that may help in the individual's safe return. Who was the last person to see the missing individual? Where? Was the missing person with anyone? What was the missing person doing? MR SAW HIM LAST.


Now as an LE, who would you investigate very quickly...........,

 

[Dixie811]

ER and CR certainly believe MR has taken a poly and that those results were inconclusive. Does anyone believe this is something they simply made up to throw suspicion on Mark? True or not, this information came from someone. LE is well aware of what is being said in interviews and written on facebook. IMO, if this is false information, LE should correct this misapprehension because it could hinder the investigation. A public which suspects Mark is much less likely to look for a possibly live child or to report suspicious behavior. I don't know if it's true that Mark has taken an LDT and has been asked to take another, but I do believe ER and CR are sincere in their statements. All MOO.

Would LE usually dignify rumors by commenting on them publicly? Whether to deny or confirm. That would be just what we want them to do of course

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Random 'stuff' from FB is considered rumor. But we are allowed to link to the official FB and things posted by verified family members, like Dylan's mother or brother, are given some credence, imo.

But those comments are NOT to be discussed here and they are still considered rumor.

Salem

Nancy Grace is msm.

Link it up as Salem likes to say.

 

[cluciano63]

Do you know if Marks house was treated as a crime scene and he didn't have access to it until after the search warrant was executed? Or did he voluntary stay away while LE investigated? Or was he there the whole time until LE executed the search warrant?

I do not recall, although they did apparently take away some vehicles for some undetermined length of time, so it would seem they performed an investigation as if there was a crime scene, i.e looking for one.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Jumping off your post Seajay, how you going to find a missing person?

1. Act fast. Go to the police immediately. Reporting the missing person quickly improves your chance of finding the individual. MR DID NOT ACT FAST.

2. Give the details for the events leading up to the disappearance. Provide any information that may help in the individual's safe return. Who was the last person to see the missing individual? Where? Was the missing person with anyone? What was the missing person doing? MR SAW HIM LAST.


Now as an LE, who would you investigate very quickly...........[/SIZE][/SIZE],

I'll just address the very last part of your post.

Why didn't LE investigate Mark very quickly by at least doing an "in-depth" interview at the first possible chance?

 

[Angelonline]

Link it up as Salem likes to say.

I think this is what your asking for?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

 

[momrids6]

I wouldn't think so. I don't think it can be used as evidence unless obtained with a warrant, so IMO they did not take anything prior to the search on the 29th. JMO

There are four main circumstances in which a warrant is not required for police to search your house:

1. Consent. If the person who is in control of the property consents to the search without being coerced or tricked into doing so, a search without a warrant is valid. Note that police do not have to tell you that you have the right to refuse a search, but you do. Also, note that if you have a roommate, he or she can consent to a search of the common areas of your dwelling (kitchen, living room), but not to your private areas (bedroom, for instance). On the other hand, the Supreme Court recently ruled that one spouse cannot consent to the search of a house on behalf of the other.

2. Plain View. If a police officer already has the right to be on your property and sees contraband or evidence of a crime that is clearly visible, that object may be lawfully seized and used as evidence. For example, if the police are in your house on a domestic violence call and see marijuana plants on the windowsill, the plants can be seized as evidence.

3. Search Incident to Arrest. If you are being arrested in your house, police officers may search for weapons or other accomplices to protect their safety (known as a "protective sweep"), or they may otherwise search to prevent the destruction of evidence.

4. Exigent Circumstances. This exception refers to emergency situations where the process of getting a valid search warrant could compromise public safety or could lead to a loss of evidence.

read more:http://www.legalzoom.com/everyday-la...ce-search-your

 

[cluciano63]

I'll just address the very last part of your post.

Why didn't LE investigate Mark very quickly by at least doing an "in-depth" interview at the first possible chance?

I think they screwed up, same as with not doing the search. I think they actually considered Dylan a runaway longer than they want to admit.