CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[dlc]

The last electronic communication was at 9:37 PM.

He went missing the following day.

There's a whole thread of media links to peruse.

BBM


In my opinion, we do not know that.

From what we've been given by LE, the last time anyone other than MR saw Dylan was the previous evening.

Thank you, and again, JMO.

 

[katydid23]

MR's demeanor in his 'video store' interview gave me the heebie-jeebies. There were so many things that made my hair stand up. But overall, it was PHONY. His faux-laid back, calm demeanor, his loving reminiscences of his beloved son, BUT NO URGENCY OR PANIC at all. And that SMILE at the very start of the video interview---

 

[SCHMAE]

Two thoughts for the day !

We don't know much but we have family members, former and current, who believe MR is involved. We can read a 1000 threads, spy novels, newspaper articles and watch tons of dateline and ID shows and still not come close to the knowledge that a family member, former or current, has of MR . Their opinions in this case , IMHO, supercede most of all the circumstantial evidence that we've seen or heard of. Speaking of the circumstantial , there is also plenty of that. What there is not, is a smoking gun. So to point to a stranger abduction is basically saying to people who know MR personally, ' we do not know MR personally but we do not believe you know him well enough to say anything negative about him'. I'm not ever going to do that . If a friend of yours at work were to tell you about something going on with their spouse that they were upset about, would anyone actually say ' im pretty sure you don't know your spouse well enough, i'm sure they meant something other than what you think happened' ?

Point two is why would ER potentially jeopardize finding Dylan by purposely infuriating the last person seen with him if she didn't believe what she was saying? To think she would just spout off a random accusation for fun or because she was upset or because, because, because ..... makes no sense. Given everything that's been said about MR, you might think you don't want to tick this guy off . One way to tick him off would be a baseless accusation. What possible reason would she do that other than thinking he knows something? If shes' wrong, not only is she wasting time not pursuing a stranger, shes' alienating her greatest ally in finding Dylan, his other parent.

So , in closing, IMHO, it makes no sense to discount the opinion of people who know MR intimately and personally and it makes no sense for ER to make her claims about MR.........unless they are true !
Thoughts ?

 

[Lordeebee]

Hoping to get an idea of how much LE has been focusing on MR, I went back to the search of:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...m-saturday-to-seek-clues-of-criminal-activity

Has the route of this search already been pieced together?
They say that the search commenced at 5300 CR 240 and that the group should be experienced hikers and expect to walk 2-4 miles. I was wondering if MR owned any other properties in the area, and found a property in the tax records (www.laplatainfo.com) with address 61 Windmill Drive, Durango. The property that Dylan would have gone to is 2343 CR 500, Bayfield

The interesting thing imo is that the starting point of the search (at CR 240) is almost exactly at the intersection where one could head south and east toward the Windmill property, or head east and then North toward the CR500 property. If you look at the map, you will see almost a perfect circle. Perhaps of interest too is that the east/north route leads straight to Lemon Reservoir and then up to MR's property.

If you are interested, any of the addressess (bolded by me) can be found on Google Maps, or better yet put them all in to "Directions" and see the circle.

Has anyone heard of the Windmill property or what it is used for? A rental?

 

[Dixie811]

Hoping to get an idea of how much LE has been focusing on MR, I went back to the search of:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...m-saturday-to-seek-clues-of-criminal-activity

Has the route of this search already been pieced together?
They say that the search commenced at 5300 CR 240 and that the group should be experienced hikers and expect to walk 2-4 miles. I was wondering if MR owned any other properties in the area, and found a property in the tax records (www.laplatainfo.com) with address 61 Windmill Drive, Durango. The property that Dylan would have gone to is 2343 CR 500, Bayfield

The interesting thing imo is that the starting point of the search (at CR 240) is almost exactly at the intersection where one could head south and east toward the Windmill property, or head east and then North toward the CR500 property. If you look at the map, you will see almost a perfect circle. Perhaps of interest too is that the east/north route leads straight to Lemon Reservoir and then up to MR's property.

If you are interested, any of the addressess (bolded by me) can be found on Google Maps, or better yet put them all in to "Directions" and see the circle.

Has anyone heard of the Windmill property or what it is used for? A rental?

I was told by another poster that the Windmill Rd property is a rental now.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Hoping to get an idea of how much LE has been focusing on MR, I went back to the search of:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...m-saturday-to-seek-clues-of-criminal-activity

Has the route of this search already been pieced together?
They say that the search commenced at 5300 CR 240 and that the group should be experienced hikers and expect to walk 2-4 miles. I was wondering if MR owned any other properties in the area, and found a property in the tax records (www.laplatainfo.com) with address 61 Windmill Drive, Durango. The property that Dylan would have gone to is 2343 CR 500, Bayfield

The interesting thing imo is that the starting point of the search (at CR 240) is almost exactly at the intersection where one could head south and east toward the Windmill property, or head east and then North toward the CR500 property. If you look at the map, you will see almost a perfect circle. Perhaps of interest too is that the east/north route leads straight to Lemon Reservoir and then up to MR's property.

If you are interested, any of the addressess (bolded by me) can be found on Google Maps, or better yet put them all in to "Directions" and see the circle.

Has anyone heard of the Windmill property or what it is used for? A rental?

It is my understanding that the other property is a rental. I don't have a link, but I know I've seen that somewhere because I also saw that the current tenants are having problems with the public snooping around their property. LE is aware I'm sure.

JMO

 

[Tennlyn]

MR's demeanor in his 'video store' interview gave me the heebie-jeebies. There were so many things that made my hair stand up. But overall, it was PHONY. His faux-laid back, calm demeanor, his loving reminiscences of his beloved son, BUT NO URGENCY OR PANIC at all. And that SMILE at the very start of the video interview---

BBM
That's it! The heebie-jeebies!!! I was trying to think of that phrase earlier. Thanks!

 

[mijamawi]

BBM


In my opinion, we do not know that.

From what we've been given by LE, the last time anyone other than MR saw Dylan was the previous evening.

Thank you, and again, JMO.

You're right, we don't know that. He was reported missing the next day. The point I was getting at is it was not reported that he went missing after they both went to bed, as was quoted in my reply.

 

[SCHMAE]

Hoping to get an idea of how much LE has been focusing on MR, I went back to the search of:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...m-saturday-to-seek-clues-of-criminal-activity

Has the route of this search already been pieced together?
They say that the search commenced at 5300 CR 240 and that the group should be experienced hikers and expect to walk 2-4 miles. I was wondering if MR owned any other properties in the area, and found a property in the tax records (www.laplatainfo.com) with address 61 Windmill Drive, Durango. The property that Dylan would have gone to is 2343 CR 500, Bayfield

The interesting thing imo is that the starting point of the search (at CR 240) is almost exactly at the intersection where one could head south and east toward the Windmill property, or head east and then North toward the CR500 property. If you look at the map, you will see almost a perfect circle. Perhaps of interest too is that the east/north route leads straight to Lemon Reservoir and then up to MR's property.

If you are interested, any of the addressess (bolded by me) can be found on Google Maps, or better yet put them all in to "Directions" and see the circle.

Has anyone heard of the Windmill property or what it is used for? A rental?

I think it is the family home where MR ER CR and DR lived together prior to the divorce. MR kept it and I guess it's now 'income property'. But I do think they used to live there. So it's probably DR's childhood home.

 

[Confusion]

I think it is the family home where MR ER CR and DR lived together prior to the divorce. MR kept it and I guess it's now 'income property'. But I do think they used to live there. So it's probably DR's childhood home.

I believe it's where DR and his family lived (not sure if it was ER and CR or just ER) until moving to CS in July. What I remember reading is that she signed it over to him when they moved, and it's now being rented. MOO

 

[Helenstreet]

I could not get over how healthy and "older" the precious baby looked - as mine came out kinda skinny at 40 weeks. Now I see why!

Anaya Lea - 15th January 2013 @ 1:34pm
Weighing 9lb 7oz and 51.7cm long.
My little princess

Good job FruitTingles! 9.5 pounds! WOW!

This is off-topic, but I couldn't resist commenting..... My four children were: 10 lb. 1 oz., 9 lb. 8 oz., 9 lb. 8 oz., and my youngest, (now three), was 12 lb. 6 oz. I can completely sympathize with FruitTingles. While I had all four naturally, my youngest two were delivered in the same bed in a birth center here in Portland, Oregon by the same midwife. A midwife is really the way to go. I swear, my youngest boy looked like he was already a month old when he was born!

 

[SCHMAE]

BBM


In my opinion, we do not know that.

From what we've been given by LE, the last time anyone other than MR saw Dylan was the previous evening.

Thank you, and again, JMO.

LE also said at one point ' they know he landed in laplata county and after that they don't know much, or don't know what happened' . (paraphrasing)

 

[katydid23]

LE also said at one point ' they know he landed in laplata county and after that they don't know much, or don't know what happened' . (paraphrasing)

I don't think they have been able to prove whether or not Dylan spent the night at the house on Sunday. Since he was just there in September, DNA and prints and hair would not really prove anything. And if he did not log onto the computer or play online video games, then how would MR prove his son was even there that night?

 

[SCHMAE]

I don't think they have been able to prove whether or not Dylan spent the night at the house on Sunday. Since he was just there in September, DNA and prints and hair would not really prove anything. And if he did not log onto the computer or play online video games, then how would MR prove his son was even there that night?

What is that saying you can not prove a negative?
Does that mean you can prove if he was there, but you can never prove that he was not ?

 

[Dixie811]

I don't think they have been able to prove whether or not Dylan spent the night at the house on Sunday. Since he was just there in September, DNA and prints and hair would not really prove anything. And if he did not log onto the computer or play online video games, then how would MR prove his son was even there that night?

I agree. I think if they were able to prove forensically that Dylan arrived on Sunday night, LE would have included his arrival on the new timeline they released last week. Because of the September visit, any forensics they collect (absent of blood, etc-- forensics indicating a crime) could be attributed to either September or November. Men aren't notorious for being the best housekeepers, anyway

 

[katydid23]

What is that saying you can not prove a negative?
Does that mean you can prove if he was there, but you can never prove that he was not ?

You can prove he was there, but you cannot prove 'when' he was there, imo.

 

[Confusion]

Just because we haven't been told of any evidence that doesn't mean there is none. If DR's last electronic device communication was at 9:37, but ER says the last cell phone activity was shortly after 8:00, he must have used a different device for his last communication. If it was the ipod or MR's computer/laptop, it would mean they should be able to show that he was there since I believe that the ipod would need a wireless connection in order to be used. MOO

 

[Dixie811]

Just because we haven't been told of any evidence that doesn't mean there is none. If DR's last electronic device communication was at 9:37, but ER says the last cell phone activity was shortly after 8:00, he must have used a different device for his last communication. If it was the ipod or MR's computer/laptop, it would mean they should be able to show that he was there since I believe that the ipod would need a wireless connection in order to be used. MOO

I totally get what you're saying, and I don't disagree.

But, I think if LE knew for sure that the 9:37 communication was from Dylan and came from MR's home then they would have included in the newest official timeline that "By 9:37pm Dylan arrives at MR's home." Or something like that to indicate it was confirmed he made it to the home that night.

 

[SCHMAE]

I totally get what you're saying, and I don't disagree.

But, I think if LE knew for sure that the 9:37 communication was from Dylan and came from MR's home then they would have included in the newest official timeline that "By 9:37pm Dylan arrives at MR's home." Or something like that to indicate it was confirmed he made it to the home that night.

The 9:37 ER might not have known about until her phone bill came and prior to that LE asked her to hush about that item .

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Just because we haven't been told of any evidence that doesn't mean there is none. If DR's last electronic device communication was at 9:37, but ER says the last cell phone activity was shortly after 8:00, he must have used a different device for his last communication. If it was the ipod or MR's computer/laptop, it would mean they should be able to show that he was there since I believe that the ipod would need a wireless connection in order to be used. MOO

But how do you prove WHO sent the message?