CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #29

[TxJan1971]

Getting "page not found" from the gratefulness.org link reminder on your reply post... so perhaps we have to "re-up" and do this as the 48 hours expiration gets closer...?

I updated it! Hopefully, it will work now! Sorry about that.

 

[mijamawi]

http://www.durangoherald.com/article...WS01/121219687
His Friend Ryan texted
Ryan <modsnip>: (time 6:43 p.m. Nov. 18) Im in pagosa coming
Dylan Redwine: Cant come srry ill hang tommarow
Ryan: Ok
Ryan: (time 7:09 p.m. Nov. 18) Why
Dylan: idk
Ryan: (time 7:45 p.m. Nov. 18) Did your dad say no
Dylan: (time 8:01 p.m. Nov. 18) yea
Ryan: Oh ok
Dylan: can I come over early lkke 6 30 early tomarrow
Ryan: Yeah
Dylan: you better let me in
Ryan: I will
Ryan: im gonna be at my gmas
Dylan: i call (you) all day if you dont
Ryan: Ok
Dylan: will you gma care or be up
Ryan: Just come around to were the sliding door is were that room is and knock on it and i will wake up

Ryan: (Time 9:27 p.m. Nov. 18) Call me when you get here too < < <

Ryan: (Tme: 6:46 a.m. Nov. 19) Where are you
Ryan: (Time: 10 a.m. Nov. 19) Come to nandos.
Ryan: (time: 4:12 p.m. Nov. 19) Dude your dads looking for ou
Ryan: (Time: 7:59 p.m. Nov. 19) Are you alright dude?
Ryan: Dude you need to call somebody anybody asap we all worried about you your mom called and shes worried bro
Ryan: Seriously when you get the message call someone
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9:27 was the incoming message Ryan sent to Dylan's cell Sunday night,
At 8:01 PM Dylan's cell and Ryan were messaging quite a bit, then it stopped, and 9:27 Ryan sent a text that was never responded to from Dylan's cell.

Also from the back and forth between Dylan's cell and Ryan's, i notice it was odd, prior to that 8:01 PM time frame, Dylan responded 15-30 minutes after Ryan texted him.

At 6:43 PM Ryan and Dylan texted, and Dylan spelled (tommarow) this way,
And at the 8:01 texting Dylan's cell spelled it this way (tomarrow)
And another member commented about the message Dylan's cell sent
( Dylan: will you gma care or be up) the member thought it was unusual for a young teen to ask that type of question,

Just the way Dylan acted not responding to the messages from Ryan prior to 8:01 PM Then all the sudden Dylan's cell is quite active for a short burst of messages, then it quits after the quick back and forth with Ryan,
Then Ryan sends that message at 9:27 PM that went unanswered,
I believe that's why all the reports stated Dylan's cell quit pinging the towers at 8 PM, anyone could have sent or called his cell, but Dylan's cell was not responding to any cell tower.

That burst of back and forth texting around 8:01 and the different misspelling of the word tomorrow, plus the other members comment about the question Dylan's cell sent to Ryan, could the Father been the person responding using Dylan's cell at that point ?

Whatever happened was that evening, not the next day from the bad vibes I'm reading the way Dylan responded texting, The Father knows something, and I believe in time Law Enforcement will also come Public concerning that night as the cause of Dylan's Disappearance.

I don't find anything wrong with the different misspellings (other than 13 year olds should know how to spell). Most smart phones have spell check unless it is turned off. I don't think older phones had that feature, so two different misspellings hardly seem like a clue. The text about his grandma caring isn't a big breakthrough either. Some kids do actually care and have manners. Mine sure as hell do.

 

[TxJan1971]

This guy also says he was last seen at 11:30, and I think we all know that's not the case.

I think he may have been referring to when MR got home which I "think" MR said he got home at 11:30. I think he misspoke but can't say for sure. Off to check notes to see what was said! Good catch!!!!!

 

[TxJan1971]

Good catch, Mijamawi

O'Donnel obviously misspoke on NG, because from the timeline of 11-18-2012, it confirms that MR says he last saw DR at 7:30 a.m. and got home at 11:30 a.m.

Day 2: Monday, Nov. 19

6:30 a.m.: According to Dylan&#8217;s friends, he was to meet them at this time in Bayfield. His friends say he did not show up.

7:30 a.m.: Mark Redwine says he left his house to run errands in Durango. This is the last time he saw Dylan.

11:30 a.m.: Mark Redwine says he returns home and finds that Dylan is gone.

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...9528/Timeline-of-events-in-Dylan-Redwine-case

 

[SCHMAE]

The only way I could see that being true is if the battery went dead on the way home, and he sent a text to someone from his ipod or MR's computer at 9:37. It just says the last communication, so there could have been others before the 9:37 one too. MOO

So what are the odds of his cell dying / breaking and DR getting on a pc, xbox, ipod anything and sending ONE communication out ? See what I mean? If he got onto a messenger or something it would be almost impossible to send out ONE communication only ..... hello? yes ? idk? It seems like if he voluntarily switched 'components'? then he would just carry on his conversation from before or start new conversations.

 

[Ronald99]

I don't find anything wrong with the different misspellings (other than 13 year olds should know how to spell). Most smart phones have spell check unless it is turned off. I don't think older phones had that feature, so two different misspellings hardly seem like a clue. The text about his grandma caring isn't a big breakthrough either. Some kids do actually care and have manners. Mine sure as hell do.

Not just one or two things make the big breakthrough as you stated,
But when you start adding all those small clues together, different theories evolve, and that's why any and all clues as small as they may be are relevant in solving a case.

 

[cfreyja23]

I don't find anything wrong with the different misspellings (other than 13 year olds should know how to spell). Most smart phones have spell check unless it is turned off. I don't think older phones had that feature, so two different misspellings hardly seem like a clue. The text about his grandma caring isn't a big breakthrough either. Some kids do actually care and have manners. Mine sure as hell do.

I agree that asking whether his friend's grandma would care if he came over so early is not unusual. By all accounts he's a good kid, and I remember having manners as a kid and thinking about the same things (though that was admittedly a long, long time ago).
On the other hand, I agree with some of the others that his texts do seem to convey anxiety, as if he's worried he won't be able to come over the next day. He seems pretty eager to be away from where he was going to stay that night. MOO

 

[Angelonline]

O/T but Cluciano63, I love your new kitty avatar.

 

[mijamawi]

So what are the odds of his cell dying / breaking and DR getting on a pc, xbox, ipod anything and sending ONE communication out ? See what I mean? If he got onto a messenger or something it would be almost impossible to send out ONE communication only ..... hello? yes ? idk? It seems like if he voluntarily switched 'components'? then he would just carry on his conversation from before or start new conversations.

We don't know if it was just one communication, just that it was the last one.

 

[mijamawi]

Not just one or two things make the big breakthrough as you stated,
But when you start adding all those small clues together, different theories evolve, and that's why any and all clues as small as they may be are relevant in solving a case.

Agreed, I just don't think those texts were written by anyone other than Dylan.

 

[cfreyja23]

I'm still trying to catch up on reading the latest comments, and it certainly seems like so much more information is available about this case than many others. In the Holly Bobo case, for example, LE barely released any information, much less a timeline. I wonder if the release of information by LE in differing cases is an indicator of where they think the case is leading (ie., whether the perp is a stranger or known to the victim).

 

[mck16]

I agree that asking whether his friend's grandma would care if he came over so early is not unusual. By all accounts he's a good kid, and I remember having manners as a kid and thinking about the same things (though that was admittedly a long, long time ago).
On the other hand, I agree with some of the others that his texts do seem to convey anxiety, as if he's worried he won't be able to come over the next day. He seems pretty eager to be away from where he was going to stay that night. MOO

I know it is hard for some to consider but he may have told his Dad the time and MR may have told him to make sure it was okay to come that early. jmo

 

[mijamawi]

I agree that asking whether his friend's grandma would care if he came over so early is not unusual. By all accounts he's a good kid, and I remember having manners as a kid and thinking about the same things (though that was admittedly a long, long time ago).
On the other hand, I agree with some of the others that his texts do seem to convey anxiety, as if he's worried he won't be able to come over the next day. He seems pretty eager to be away from where he was going to stay that night. MOO

It's really difficult to read tone in a text. I read my son's texts all the time and the texts between Dylan and R seem no different.

I agree he probably would rather hang with his friends than his dad, but I don't know many tweens or teens that wouldn't. JMO

 

[TxJan1971]

Agreed, I just don't think those texts were written by anyone other than Dylan.

I'm :fence:

 

[mijamawi]

I know it is hard for some to consider but he may have told his Dad the time and MR may have told him to make sure it was okay to come that early. jmo

Right. I still think the conversation may have been once MR said no to visiting that night, Dylan asked if he could visit the folloing day. MR says he has errands and can take him when he gets home. Dylan asks if he can take before his errands, and MR says fine, but we'd have to leave really early (maybe to discourage it.) Dylan doesn't care, he wants to see his friends. I can really really see something like that happening and that's why the time was so early. JMO

 

[cfreyja23]

It's really difficult to read tone in a text. I read my son's texts all the time and the texts between Dylan and R seem no different.

I agree he probably would rather hang with his friends than his dad, but I don't know many tweens or teens that wouldn't. JMO

Fair enough, but IMO Dylan had already clearly conveyed his unhappiness about being there with the frowny face text. I see what you're saying, though.

 

[Dee10]

Right. I still think the conversation may have been once MR said no to visiting that night, Dylan asked if he could visit the folloing day. MR says he has errands and can take him when he gets home. Dylan asks if he can take before his errands, and MR says fine, but we'd have to leave really early (maybe to discourage it.) Dylan doesn't care, he wants to see his friends. I can really really see something like that happening and that's why the time was so early. JMO

I totally agree. But why did Dylan not get up the next day? Why didn't he call or text his friend? It doesn't make sense as he was so looking forward to seeing his friends.

 

[Seajay]

I don't see the spacing between text messages as a big deal for Dylan. Hard to text when you have a greasy cheeseburger in one hand and greasy french fries in the other. Ever try to text when your hands have some food goop all over them??? I had that issue today with some hot wings. I either had to eat or text but not both without washing my hands each time.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm still trying to catch up on reading the latest comments, and it certainly seems like so much more information is available about this case than many others. In the Holly Bobo case, for example, LE barely released any information, much less a timeline. I wonder if the release of information by LE in differing cases is an indicator of where they think the case is leading (ie., whether the perp is a stranger or known to the victim).

LE behaves so differently in every case, there seems to be no way to tell, IMO.
Some cases we hear nothing, others we hear a bit more. In Holy's case, where almost nothing has been revealed, that strategy does not seem to be a success, as two years approach. I wish LE would reconsider after a while in some of these cases and start addressing the public more. I do not see how it could hurt, and it could jog a memory.

 

[Ronald99]

Right. I still think the conversation may have been once MR said no to visiting that night, Dylan asked if he could visit the folloing day. MR says he has errands and can take him when he gets home. Dylan asks if he can take before his errands, and MR says fine, but we'd have to leave really early (maybe to discourage it.) Dylan doesn't care, he wants to see his friends. I can really really see something like that happening and that's why the time was so early. JMO

Dylan stated 6:30am arriving at Ryan's that following morning, the Father would've had to wake up around 5:30 and get ready to leave around 6 AM and drive Dylan over to Ryan's,

I'm sure the Father told Dylan if he wanted to go to Ryan's, he would need to be dropped off around 6:30 AM so the Father could be back to do whatever he planned, he left around 7:30 claiming Dylan was sleeping.

Yet the Father in all statements says he tried waking Dylan around 7:30 AM ?
why try waking him when you were leaving to run your errands, instead of the time you would've so Dylan's would arrive early at Ryan's.
Something is not making sense concerning the time Dylan told Ryan about the following morning, and the Fathers statement.