CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #30

[Ronald99]

I haven't seen or heard anything about what searching he did other than going to the 2 houses. I don't think he's ever said how he came to notice the fishing pole was missing either. He may have just drove by and watched for him around the lake, but he's never said anything about it.

It's almost as though he reads others statements, and then comments, Dylan likes to hitchhike, he likes going fishing, we passed the Football,there's been a couple other comments that's made me think he's crafting stories from articles posted.

 

[Ronald99]

I guess I have missed someting, Where is it stated that he was texting away 45 minutes once on the couch?

That was the tv interview last night on 9news the Father made that comment.

 

[Confusion]

That was the tv interview last night on 9news the Father made that comment.

I only heard him say that he was lying on the couch texting, I didn't hear him say for 45 minutes. MOO

 

[Ronald99]

I only heard him say that he was lying on the couch texting, I didn't hear him say for 45 minutes. MOO

I need to rewatch the newscast, I was viewing on my iPad at a restaraunt and the feed had glitches, so the couch part texting was correct, the amount of time texting I'm retracting.

I'm hoping there's a transcript plus the video, or a member is able to construct a transcript, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

 

[Seajay]

It's almost as though he reads others statements, and then comments, Dylan likes to hitchhike, he likes going fishing, we passed the Football,there's been a couple other comments that's made me think he's crafting stories from articles posted.

Or it could be that with everyone demanding more details, he's just filling in the blanks. People have been harping about how little he's said, how little information he's given, and yet when he does, now it's being said he's manufacturing it to meet the evidence.

I'm still going with that he told ALL of this to LE when he was interviewed/interrograted in the beginning. LE didn't release this information, and the big issue from Elaine and Cory has been that he hasn't told them anything, answered their questions. So now he is. It's all stuff he already told LE, it's just that the rest of us didn't know it. And now he's giving us more information. Personally, if I were his lawyer, I would advised him against it after seeing on the internet the way everything he says is handled. The only one he needed to tell was LE and he's cooperating and told them what they wanted to know.

 

[asyousay]

Just managed to watch the interview . It was a lot shorter than imaged it would be . I am surprised Cory was not on it more. But we learnt that Mark has taken the kids before and hidden them away from Mum which could be why she thinks its happened this time and its snowballed out of control .

 

[FruitTingles]

9News typically posts to their website and facebook page. Since the reporter has a youtube channel, I think she'll probably put it there too.

Can someone link me up please? I'm so behind

 

[asyousay]

Can someone link me up please? I'm so behind

http://www.9news.com/news/investigative/314078/207/What-happened-to-Dylan-Redwine link for the interview.

 

[Eileen730]

Just a question for all the parents of today's tech savvy teens.

If your child was ever in a situation where his phone "died", no battery, no charger/charger broken, whatever, and that child had access to a LAND LINE PHONE, A COMPUTER and possibly an Ipod, how many of you think your child is too stupid to know how to reach someone? How many of you believe your child would just go walking off somewhere...not exactly sure where he was going, but walk off somewhere? Especially, if that "somewhere" was at least 8 miles away? Are our children incompetent? NO. I don't buy that for one minute. JMO

Mine wont walk any further than the Fridg!

 

[asyousay]

From all accounts the phone was working fine so absolutely no reason why on the Monday he did not text R . Also we now know he had a back up Witt his iPod so even stranger that he vanished without a trace .

 

[SCHMAE]

Hello everyone! :seeya:

I am new here and found this site because of my interest in finding Dylan. My mother and sister live in Durango, and I have been to Vallecito a few times in the past. There's just something about this little guy that keeps nagging at me. I pray they find him soon!!!

I have been trying to read up and take in all of the "evidence" presented thus far. Having not completed the task, I do have some questions and thought it might save some time if I just posted the questions and received some quick answers from you "seasoned" members.

First, it seems to me, MR would have to be the stupidest man on the planet to deliberately plan to have his son go missing the very first day he arrived. This leads me to believe that if MR is involved, it was the result of an accident, or an elaborate hoax to hide Dylan with someone close to him. Lies can be told to Dylan, that he would not, at least in the beginning, know that something was "up." But either of these would put MR at the center of the investigation. Probably not likely.

Next: There seems to be some confusion as to whether or not MR actually took a polygraph. Why would the authorities not come right out and say he took the test and then tell what the results were? I see this all the time in other missing person cases. Why not this one? Also, have the RSO's in the area taken polygraph tests as well?

I assume the authorities have questioned everyone in the area that might have had someone visiting for the holidays. In a town that seriously thins out after the summer season, I find it strange that anyone would even know that Dylan was at the house. And MR and Dylan supposedly came home after dark, so no one would have seen Dylan going into the house. Perhaps someone living in the area heard MR talk about his son coming to visit? Otherwise, how would anyone even know that Dylan would be at the residence? And that MR would not be home with him?

Thinking along those lines, Dylan's mother and brother live only six hours away. Is it possible someone "they" know could have driven to the home and taken Dylan? Perhaps this person told Dylan he would be taken back to his mother?

Living in a remote area, MR most likely would feel that his son would be safe while he was away. I don't find the fact that he left Dylan alone while he ran errands a problem. But, I do think it odd that he didn't text Dylan to see if he was up and getting ready or to let Dylan know he would be home at such and such a time.

Also, I find the text from R at 9:27 a little strange: "Call me when you get here too." Bang on the door AND call him? Is it possible that Dylan was talking to R earlier over MR's home phone because the battery on his cell phone died? Perhaps making arrangements to come the next day? Also strange to me is the fact that R didn't send more text messages to Dylan when he failed to show up the next morning. The text at 10:00, "Come to nandos" sounds like R has spoken to Dylan and is giving him further instructions as to his whereabouts. Anyone know what/where "nandos" is?

Could the "kids" involved be helping to hide Dylan? There are lots of empty cabins this time of year. They could be taking food to him. Of course, my argument against this scenario is that by now Dylan would be thinking enough is enough! I do not discount that he could have run away. Thirteen year olds don't think like we do! He could be tired of his family fighting and tired of being pushed around by the courts.

My prayers go out to his family members (all of them!), and especially for those trying to solve the case. I do hope they find him soon so I can quit worrying about him!

Welcome ! The points I bolded are very interesting ! Food for thought !

 

[SCHMAE]

How long does a body have to be "dead" before it emits an odor these dogs can pick up? Anyone know? Minutes? Hours?

Within almost minutes from what I understand. It's a far shorter time that you might imagine.

 

[SCHMAE]

Before the they said possible abduction, kidnapping or foul play, door was open. Now, they are saying abduction or something happening in that house (which put MR is the picture) IMO. Slow & progressive.

To me it sounds like they have 2 avenues and do not know which. So that in my brain means there's a 50% likelihood MR is involved. Right ?

 

[SCHMAE]

So what happened to the several items of clothing supposedly left by Dylan on the couch? This article again claims nothing was left.
And now the two of them watched a movie until 10:30 pm?

And the avid texter went ' textless' for an hour before going to sleep from
9:30 to 10:30 without a text ? Amazing self control .

 

[SCHMAE]

LE at least intimated that Dylan made it to the house. That's progress. How can something have happened at it if he'd never been there??

Yes and I think that's a pretty big deal considering how many pages of posts we've all put up about the road home, the truck and what could have happened then. Placing Dylan inside the home for any amount of time is progress imho!

 

[DylansMom34]

The revised story has a glaring inconsistency from the interview from last night (or maybe I'm losing my mind). In the interview shown last night, Mark says he went to bed and Dylan was on the couch texting. He must have gone to bed pretty late if what is now showing on the written story is true because he claims that he and Dylan were watching a movie until about 10:30 p.m.

Well, if Dylan's last text was at 9:37 p.m., that is inconsistent with Mark's statement that they watched a movie and then when Mark went to bed, Dylan was on the couch, still texting.

Also, the only time I saw something that resembled possibly real tears/emotion from Mark was when he was talking about the road trip to Boston. It seemed when he was talking about the last time he saw his child when he was trying to wake him up for 45 minutes on Monday morning, there seemed to be zero emotion then. Why so emotional about a trip but not emotional about the last time he ever laid eyes on his child?

Now, granted, the reporter said she interviewed Mark for 2.5 hours and we got to see about 2 minutes of it so maybe there was some other emotion somewhere else in the uncut interview.

 

[SCHMAE]

Why couldn't all those things happen and he still didn't have the time talk to him about how he liked the new house. It sounded like they were busy. And have you ever tried talking to a kid who is texting??? I have and they aren't very good at listening when they are texting. Heck I can't even carry on a conversation and text at the same time.

My own opinion on the ' new house' talk is that you're talking to a 13 yr old. They are notoriously nonchalant about anything adults want to talk about . "How's the new house? " " It's cool " .........end of conversation. MR may have wanted to know a bit more about it since adults like house talk but DR is not going to go into details because he's a boy. DR has no more care if it has vaulted ceilings or french doors than what the APR is on a new car . So that's my take. Dad wanted to hear about it and didnt' get a lot of info and just pointed that out that they were pretty busy. Also I think it could be another way of saying " i didnt get enough time with him and then he was gone".

 

[Confusion]

Hello everyone! :seeya:

I am new here and found this site because of my interest in finding Dylan. My mother and sister live in Durango, and I have been to Vallecito a few times in the past. There's just something about this little guy that keeps nagging at me. I pray they find him soon!!!

I have been trying to read up and take in all of the "evidence" presented thus far. Having not completed the task, I do have some questions and thought it might save some time if I just posted the questions and received some quick answers from you "seasoned" members.

I was going to answer this last night, but I forgot. I hope I'm not repeating anything, but I'm too lazy to go back and reread everything.

First, it seems to me, MR would have to be the stupidest man on the planet to deliberately plan to have his son go missing the very first day he arrived. This leads me to believe that if MR is involved, it was the result of an accident, or an elaborate hoax to hide Dylan with someone close to him. Lies can be told to Dylan, that he would not, at least in the beginning, know that something was "up." But either of these would put MR at the center of the investigation. Probably not likely.

I also have a hard time seeing him being able to accidentally kill him without leaving any forensic evidence in the home or his vehicle (which would most likely have to be used to move a body.)

Next: There seems to be some confusion as to whether or not MR actually took a polygraph. Why would the authorities not come right out and say he took the test and then tell what the results were? I see this all the time in other missing person cases. Why not this one? Also, have the RSO's in the area taken polygraph tests as well?

LE has come out and said that he took one. They said right from the start that they wouldn't be releasing any information until the case was solved, and they've been pretty well sticking to that. It was said that both parents had taken one, but LE would not release any information about the results. They've said that the RSOs in the area have all had alibis, but nothing was ever said about them being given polygraphs.

I assume the authorities have questioned everyone in the area that might have had someone visiting for the holidays. In a town that seriously thins out after the summer season, I find it strange that anyone would even know that Dylan was at the house. And MR and Dylan supposedly came home after dark, so no one would have seen Dylan going into the house. Perhaps someone living in the area heard MR talk about his son coming to visit? Otherwise, how would anyone even know that Dylan would be at the residence? And that MR would not be home with him?

Dylan, his brother and their mother lived in the area until 4 months before he disappeared. There could be several people in the area that anybody in the family may have talked to that might know. Some of MR's coworkers may have heard about him taking the time off for his son's visit, ER could have mentioned it to a friend (who could have mentioned it to someone else), one or more of Dylan's friends could have mentioned it to someone, or someone else could have heard them talking about him coming, etc. There would, of course, be a lot fewer people who knew MR would be gone, but DR could have mentioned it to someone he was texting that we don't know about, one of his friends could have been texting with someone about it, it could be just luck, or someone who had heard Dylan would be there may have met MR along the road that morning and saw that he was alone. There really are a lot of possible explanations, even if most aren't very probable.

Thinking along those lines, Dylan's mother and brother live only six hours away. Is it possible someone "they" know could have driven to the home and taken Dylan? Perhaps this person told Dylan he would be taken back to his mother?

Again, they both are likely to still have friends in the area, so it's always possible.

Living in a remote area, MR most likely would feel that his son would be safe while he was away. I don't find the fact that he left Dylan alone while he ran errands a problem. But, I do think it odd that he didn't text Dylan to see if he was up and getting ready or to let Dylan know he would be home at such and such a time.

I believe it was on the official FB page that it was said that MR had said he tried calling a couple of times that morning. Of course, it would be considered a rumor since nobody was at the house with Dylan or in the vehicle with MR. MOO

Also, I find the text from R at 9:27 a little strange: "Call me when you get here too." Bang on the door AND call him? Is it possible that Dylan was talking to R earlier over MR's home phone because the battery on his cell phone died? Perhaps making arrangements to come the next day? Also strange to me is the fact that R didn't send more text messages to Dylan when he failed to show up the next morning. The text at 10:00, "Come to nandos" sounds like R has spoken to Dylan and is giving him further instructions as to his whereabouts. Anyone know what/where "nandos" is?

Interesting thought about calling and knocking. It's possible that the texting he was doing at the house that night was on the ipod. I believe that nando is another friend's nickname.

Could the "kids" involved be helping to hide Dylan? There are lots of empty cabins this time of year. They could be taking food to him. Of course, my argument against this scenario is that by now Dylan would be thinking enough is enough! I do not discount that he could have run away. Thirteen year olds don't think like we do! He could be tired of his family fighting and tired of being pushed around by the courts.

My prayers go out to his family members (all of them!), and especially for those trying to solve the case. I do hope they find him soon so I can quit worrying about him!

I had considered him hiding out with or without (mostly with) the help of his friends, but I don't think they could have managed it for this long, especially keeping it quiet. It's still possible that an adult could be helping him hide, but I think he would have contacted a friend by now. I just don't see many kids that age who would do all the work his friends have done to help find him if they knew he wasn't really missing. MOO

 

[sunni]

Does anyone in here have Dropbox (or a similar site/place where I could submit the transcipt from tonight's newscast)? VASportsmom used to allow me to place things in her Dropbox but she has the password and has to unprotect it so others can see. Any suggestions on how I can share?

I have one and you are more than welcome to use it.

I have a 'public' folder for sharing with others too.

 

[TxLady2]

Sure it does. If there is, in fact, no cause-and-effect, then it doesn't make sense. Thereby, it is not true. A --> B --> C. Doesn't mean you have to understand or agree with someone's thought process or actions or reactions, but it does mean that there is a discernible reason behind it, if you look @ it from an unbiased position.

Forgive me, but I am behind.

You know what doesn't make sense to me? That a father could fight to keep his visitation rights and go to the trouble of flying his son to be with him on the holiday and then do something to hurt or kill him within hours of his arrival. THAT makes no sense to me. Yet it is thrown around here on a daily basis.
There are many, many crimes committed every day in this country that make no sense, yet they happen. EVERY DAY. Because they don't make sense to logical, reasonable people... but they make sense to whoever does them, which is something we will never figure out. Ask any LEO, they will tell you that they see things all the time that do not, and will not EVER make sense.