CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #31

[jjenny]

Not sure... Mark made a big deal about buying a direct flight for Dylan. Was that for the November trip or some earlier trip?

But didn't we look up the flights and there is no direct flight?

 

[pattywack]

I would think that any child who had a decent relationship with their dad would be overjoyed to spend time with him especially after not seeing him for a few months. True or not , what we have heard from Dylans familyand his ex family MR was not a major figure in his children's lives and even resorted to hiding out with some of his children on previous occasions, This to me is not something a loving caring Dad would subject his children to.It sounds kind of manipulative to me.I have been following this case for a few months and read everything I could possibly read and the bottom line...despite all the proposed scenarios of what could have possibly happened is the absence of cell phone activity .Any one with a cell phone,regardless if a child or not is attached at the hip.To suggest that Dylan's phone died and he did not charge as soon as possible to me is ludicrous . If things happened as MR suggested and Dylan fell asleep nothing will convince me before he left the house the next morning he did not text friend and say "I AM ON MY WAY". If not cell phone he would have used the landline. Also if he was texting when MR went to bed about 10:30 then where are the records of that. According to LE, the last activity was 9:37. Big difference between 9:37 and 10:30.

 

[DylansMom34]

My point was that a normal person would call 911 if their child was harmed/killed as a result of an accident. Considering MR and ER's history, however, I think he would know that she would never give up saying and trying to prove that he had "deliberately" hurt Dylan, even if he said it was an accident and evidence could prove otherwise. She has already made comments alluding to this, if I remember correctly. Knowing how she feels about him, and not saying she does not have a right to feel how she does, but knowing she would blame him and never rest until she convinced everyone that he had hurt Dylan deliberately might be a reason to panic and try to dump Dylan's body instead of calling 911. Does this make sense? I know what I want to say but am not sure I am getting my point across.

The problem is if called 911 and reported the accident, a medical examiner would have been able to confirm that it was an accident. If there was an accident and Mark decided to cover it up for whatever reason, after a period of time it would probably be harder and harder for a medical examiner to determine if what happened was an accident or not.

 

[Babbi-Dan]

Sorry. Still doesn't make sense to me. Especially considering how MR claims to love "that boy." What kind of person wouldn't call 911 when their child has an accident?

If Dylan was obviously dead, 911 wouldn't be able to help. JMO.

 

[jjenny]

If Dylan was obviously dead, 911 wouldn't be able to help. JMO.

And how exactly could that happen accidentally?

 

[Babbi-Dan]

The problem is if called 911 and reported the accident, a medical examiner would have been able to confirm that it was an accident. If there was an accident and Mark decided to cover it up for whatever reason, after a period of time it would probably be harder and harder for a medical examiner to determine if what happened was an accident or not.

If Dylan died as a result of a bump on the back of the head, for example, would that be able to be proven that it was an accident? Or would the public opinion, fueled by ER's accusations, sway the outcome?

Just some thoughts.... JMO.

 

[Babbi-Dan]

And how exactly could that happen accidentally?

Dylan could have tripped while they were tossing the football around. He could have fallen down the stairs.... Not saying these things did happen, but that they are possibilities to be considered. Could a medical examiner say it was an accident if Dylan died from hitting the back of his head on a rock? Or from a broken neck? Broken neck maybe, since carpet fibers and such would come into play. But falling and hitting his head on a rock while tossing the football would just be MR's word wouldn't it? I don't know, just brainstorming ...

 

[jjenny]

What rock? They were supposedly tossing Nerf football. It's done inside.

 

[DylansMom34]

If Dylan died as a result of a bump on the back of the head, for example, would that be able to be proven that it was an accident? Or would the public opinion, fueled by ER's accusations, sway the outcome?

Just some thoughts.... JMO.

I understand what you're saying and maybe in the heat of the moment, this type of thing could have happened.

The court of public opinion is pretty much at work now and unless Dylan is found and it is somehow clearly determined that Mark had nothing to do with what happened, the public opinion will likely remain as it is.

I just wonder how long a person can keep this to themself.

 

[scorekeeper]

If Dylan died as a result of a bump on the back of the head, for example, would that be able to be proven that it was an accident? Or would the public opinion, fueled by ER's accusations, sway the outcome?

Just some thoughts.... JMO.

I don't think coroner/medical examiner conclusions are swayed by public/family opinions.

 

[SCHMAE]

Considering MR says he texted Dylan on Monday, how would he explain why he was texting him if he knew his cell phone was broken?

Good point Jen ,tks ! I was just throwing it out there.
I figured it was full of holes, I just didnt' see them at the time !

 

[nikb]

What rock? They were supposedly tossing Nerf football. It's done inside.

Whew finally caught up.

Re: the above, IMO it could be inside or outside. Personally I wouldn't toss this around in my house - even though it's soft foam it can still knock stuff over. When I play anything throw/catch with my neice, no matter how soft it is, we go outside. We're regularly having to toss our neighbor kid's Nerf football back over the fence too, so it seems he plays with it outside as well. Back related to this case, I don't recall if MR ever gave any indication of whether they were inside or outside.

 

[Babbi-Dan]

What rock? They were supposedly tossing Nerf football. It's done inside.

Someone said they were doing it outside. But if it was on the inside, then Dylan could have tripped and hit his head on the corner of a table. But then, I think the evidence would point to that being an accident, unless, of course, LE suspected Dylan and MR argued. Like I said earlier, I am just brainstorming. I haven't sat down and drawn all this out and considered all the angles. Just a bunch of "what ifs".

 

[nikb]

<snipped for space>
I just wonder how long a person can keep this to themself.

Way, way too long, apparently since Dylan is still missing.

 

[Lordeebee]

I really feel that MR is responsible some how for what happened to Dylan. I don't know if I'm willing to go with intentional murder. Even with all that we've learned about him I don't see him as being this evil murderer. I just don't. I think it's possible an accident of some sort happened and out of fear he tried to cover it up. What if he let Dylan go out on a quad at night and something happened? What if he did something that inadvertently lead to Dylan's death?

This is all MOO of course and that is IF he is responsible.

IMO this could explain an inconclusive polygraph rather than an out and out fail plus lots of inconsistencies in his stories.

I was wondering that...Was it ever determined if MR owned a quad or other ATV? How about a boat?

 

[Babbi-Dan]

If they got home between 8 and 9:37, wouldn't it be dark then? Since it is winter and all.

 

[deoneta]

Someone said they were doing it outside. But if it was on the inside, then Dylan could have tripped and hit his head on the corner of a table. But then, I think the evidence would point to that being an accident, unless, of course, LE suspected Dylan and MR argued. Like I said earlier, I am just brainstorming. I haven't sat down and drawn all this out and considered all the angles. Just a bunch of "what ifs".

MR is no doctor. Even if it appeared his son had stopped breathing, the normal impulse would be to call 911, getting instructions on CPR. I've read of cases where parents claimed to have panicked and hidden a body after an accident, but I've never believed it to be true. I just can't believe a loving parent would leave remains to the elements or wild animals, leaving loved ones in the agony of never knowing what happened. Nothing loving about that, just cruel. All MOO

 

[Annie1004]

Someone said they were doing it outside. But if it was on the inside, then Dylan could have tripped and hit his head on the corner of a table. But then, I think the evidence would point to that being an accident, unless, of course, LE suspected Dylan and MR argued. Like I said earlier, I am just brainstorming. I haven't sat down and drawn all this out and considered all the angles. Just a bunch of "what ifs".

I am sure if there was any type of "accident," MR would have called 911 post-haste. After all, it's not likely he would withhold medical treatment. If Dylan was accidentally killed on MR's watch, I also think -- because it's human nature/first response -- MR would have called the authorities. It doesn't make sense that MR would make things worse for himself by covering up an accident, no matter how serious. After all, MR is his father, not a babysitter or someone unrelated. Mark comes across to me as a broken man consumed with grief and self-blame (or am I being manipulated by him?)

 

[Teche]

Do we know who owns the iPod located in Mark's truck?
Sorry if I misspoke. There are so, so many threads. I was under the impression that a when the search warrant was executed at Mark's house, LE took possession of the trucks and one had an iPod in it.

 

[Annie1004]

MR is no doctor. Even if it appeared his son had stopped breathing, the normal impulse would be to call 911, getting instructions on CPR. I've read of cases where parents claimed to have panicked and hidden a body after an accident, but I've never believed it to be true. I just can't believe a loving parent would leave remains to the elements or wild animals, leaving loved ones in the agony of never knowing what happened. Nothing loving about that, just cruel. All MOO

Perfectly stated - we posted at the same time - thank you for your clear explanation.