CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #31

[Lordeebee]

In the same uncut MR video, I though this was interesting:

"..there was some discussion about him leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield area with one of his friends that had been trying to text him, or he had been communicating with."

WHY did he say "had been trying"?? Then as though he catches himself, he adds "or he had been communicating with"

Wow, gives me the shivers

 

[mck16]

In the same uncut MR video, I though this was interesting:

"..there was some discussion about him leaving with me so I could drop him off in the Bayfield area with one of his friends that had been trying to text him, or he had been communicating with."

WHY did he say "had been trying"?? Then as though he catches himself, he adds "or he had been communicating with"

Wow, gives me the shivers

I don't know but it could just be indicative of what has been reported by people in the area or people who have gone there as to how there is no reception and how hard it is to text or communicate with the bad cell service. jmo

 

[Lordeebee]

I don't know but it could just be indicative of what has been reported by people in the area or people who have gone there as to how there is no reception and how hard it is to text or communicate with the bad cell service. jmo

On the other hand, it could be indicative of why Dylan was never heard from again, text or otherwise.

 

[mck16]

On the other hand, it could be indicative of why Dylan was never heard from again, text or otherwise.

How would that be? I don't see the connection or how it relates. jmo

 

[nikb]

Upthread Schmae gave what imo was an amazing breakdown of the various statements made by MR in reference to what transpired in the morning before he left to run errands (sorry, Schmae can't locate at the moment). But it got me thinking about what MR had said about why Dylan didn't get up that morning. I transcribed from the uncut video his remarks on this:

"..I laughed at him kinda jokingly because I know him - if he aint gotta get up, he's not likely to get up and he's not the kinda kid that's gonna get up at 6:30 if he doesn't have to."
..."It doesn't surprise me that he elected not to get up when I left, and when I left then he acknowledged that everything that I was saying to him and that I would be back..he knows that when I came back I would be working on getting him down to his friends, and that's part of the struggle that we all have is ya know, what happened to him between the time I left and the time when I got back and that's what nobody seems to be able to answer."

And the remarkable CONTRAST to what ER said about Dylan's morning habits from the Nancy Grace transcript:

REDWINE: No, and I appreciate that. You know, Dylan was always good. He always had to wake up for school early. So irrespective of what time he went to bed, you know, he was really good about waking up. So if he had plans at 6:30 to meet with his friends, you know, it`s uncharacteristic of him not to be up and ready. So, you know, I just -- I know him. And I know him very well. And I think that, you know, he definitely would have been up and ready at 6:30, 7:30, whenever in the morning.

Great post and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Just jumping off of your post, the first thing that came to my mind on reading those side by side is I know so many kids who are completely different depending on which parent they're with at the time. Then if you add in the parents' different perceptions, IMO it's not that surprising to read such differing stories.

I'll add that early on this really freaked me out too. I kept thinking "this isn't even the same kid!" when I'd read different accounts from MR and ER, but after I thought about it more, I've seen it happen. I can think of so many kids who are night and day different depending on the parent they're with.

 

[scorekeeper]

No
Yes
And I pray very soon


Dylan has consumed our lives but he has become one of beloved sons because he is scrubbed with sunshine,

 

[cluciano63]

I not only believe that ER probably knew Dylan's habits better than MR did, but that this was one day he fully intended and planned to be up, and with his friends, as soon as possible. He was probably only going to get to see them a couple of times that week.

If he really would not get up, I feel like something may have been wrong with him. Or that the whole morning story is simply untrue. This story is probably one more thing that enrages ER if she feels it goes against everything she knows about her child.

JMO.

 

[Confusion]

Something that keeps popping into my head when I'm not at my computer, and usually pops back out when I sit down to read here is the fact that nobody saw him walking down the road (reportedly). IF he did decide to hitchhike, he probably knew there might be a chance that he'd be doing a lot of walking/waiting before he got a ride. All of the posters, fliers and other sources of information I've seen have had similar descriptions of his clothing - shorts, sport shirt, hat & shoes, but would he have dressed that way if he was expecting to be out in cool weather for what could be a long time?

I keep wondering if some people may have seen him, but didn't realize it because he was wearing long pants and his hoodie. He could have thrown the shorts into his backpack because he might want to change back again later. I'd like to see a picture of him with a "hood" on rather than a hat, and see if it brings back memories to anyone from that morning. I'm sure it's been too long now, but who knows?

 

[katydid23]

Something that keeps popping into my head when I'm not at my computer, and usually pops back out when I sit down to read here is the fact that nobody saw him walking down the road (reportedly). IF he did decide to hitchhike, he probably knew there might be a chance that he'd be doing a lot of walking/waiting before he got a ride. All of the posters, fliers and other sources of information I've seen have had similar descriptions of his clothing - shorts, sport shirt, hat & shoes, but would he have dressed that way if he was expecting to be out in cool weather for what could be a long time?

I keep wondering if some people may have seen him, but didn't realize it because he was wearing long pants and his hoodie. He could have thrown the shorts into his backpack because he might want to change back again later. I'd like to see a picture of him with a "hood" on rather than a hat, and see if it brings back memories to anyone from that morning. I'm sure it's been too long now, but who knows?

What about a kid walking in a hoodie and carrying a fishing pole? Do we know yet if that was for real this his pole is missing?

 

[Confusion]

What about a kid walking in a hoodie and carrying a fishing pole? Do we know yet if that was for real this his pole is missing?

He said it was missing, but not that he knows Dylan had it. MOO

 

[cluciano63]

What about a kid walking in a hoodie and carrying a fishing pole? Do we know yet if that was for real this his pole is missing?

How can we ever know what is true or not true unless this case is solved? I really fear it will not be. And even if it is technically solved, I doubt we will ever really know what happened. If anything, maybe a case will be brought one day, against someone, but I doubt there will be a confession. Always lots to wonder about, I fear.

 

[katydid23]

If they can't bring charges in the Sky Metalwa case or the Ayla Reynolds case, then I don't know how to keep the faith in all of these others...

 

[cluciano63]

Per the FB page, apparently the Denver channel 7 made an error in reporting that a runaway teen girl had been found, somehow made it sound like Dylan had been found. Good grief...

 

[Seajay]

Yes
Yes
Yes

I beleive he's still alive, I believe he will be found and I believe whoever has been hiding him will be arrested for what they've done.

 

[KateNY]

Yes
Yes
Yes

I beleive he's still alive, I believe he will be found and I believe whoever has been hiding him will be arrested for what they've done.

I'll 2nd that. I'm clinging to the idea that someone does have him stashed somewhere.

And, if that's the case, could be more than one arrest (aiding /abetting)


Tho we may differ on who we think is doing the stashing :shush:

 

[asyousay]

Poll:

Is he still with us ?
Will he ever be found ?

No
No

But I hope I am proven wrong on both counts !

 

[katydid23]

I appreciate all ya'alls optimism, but I don't believe that D is safely stashed away. Sad to say so. :cry::rose::cry:

 

[asyousay]

I appreciate all ya'alls optimism, but I don't believe that D is safely stashed away. Sad to say so. :cry::rose::cry:

Same , it has been way to long for Dylan to be hidden away . I believe he died Sunday night or early Monday morning .

 

[YidArmyRach]

Something like this crossed my mind a while back and then when Dylan's friends said Mark and Dylan were more like buddies than father/son the thought came back.

My brother is like that with his son and it drives me nuts! He wanted to be the one his son drank with first etc etc. Very stupid in my opinion. I always tell him his son doesn't need a friend, he has lots of those. He needs a father.

Oh right, I'd never read that. All I had read was comments based around ER saying he didn't have much of a relationship with DR, or any of his children. For me, this changes a lot. If his mates considered Dylan and his dad were buddies, then I would assume they had a good relationship (as kids are not shy to tell their friends when they hate someone, or don't to be somewhere etc). It would also make me think that Dylan wasn't visiting under duress - which is something I've never believed anyway, seeing as he was getting to see his best friends again.

 

[packerdog]

Oh right, I'd never read that. All I had read was comments based around ER saying he didn't have much of a relationship with DR, or any of his children. For me, this changes a lot. If his mates considered Dylan and his dad were buddies, then I would assume they had a good relationship (as kids are not shy to tell their friends when they hate someone, or don't to be somewhere etc). It would also make me think that Dylan wasn't visiting under duress - which is something I've never believed anyway, seeing as he was getting to see his best friends again.

But he never saw his friends again. I think the only incentive he had for the visit was to get together with the friends, not for the love of his dad. MR could have promised him anything that doesn't mean it would have happened.

I wonder if MR smoked in the truck on the way home from the airport. Dylan might have asked him to put it out because it irritated him and MR got angry. I saw the ashtray in the living room next to the couch had butts in it.

I still can't understand why MR didn't call Dylan on Monday morning while running errands, just because he may have needed something or make sure he was ready to go when he returned. Makes no sense to me