CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

[Confusion]

oh, me too. and I wouldn't be surprised to see DR show up that distance away from Vallectio. and so close to mom's home. if it's him, its surely a message.
feeling nauseaus.
why is there no icon for a smiley face puking?

There is...
uke:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I don't really care, but I think it's imporant to keep everything straight. He has a Ph.D from the University of North Texas, and "maintained his license current and in good standing until he elected to retire it 15 years later in 2006." Obviously, the amount of money he was making from his television shows meant that he could retire from his clinical practice, but he does have a doctorate in clinical psychology, and he was licensed and in good standing when he let the license lapse.

So Dr Phil hasn't keep up with the requirements to keep his license current. I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is people saying that he is a licensed mental health professional when he's not. MOO.

 

[dlc]

I didn't exactly mean that though, reading it back, I see how I worded it incorrectly. I would like to see Dr. Phil get a better understanding from MR about what happened the night and morning Dylan and MR were together. Not to hang MR; to find Dylan. We have been pouring over the trickle of information in this case, and while we've been able to firm ip the timeline a bit, there are so many unanswered questions. If an interview with Dr. Phil sheds some light, all the better. Let's see if it even happens.

BBM

Looking back on your wording: "I think it's different because it possible will show inconsistencies in MR's timeline (or lack thereof) and cause many more people to scratch their head."

I think you were very careful to say that there might be inconsistencies, and there might not be (lack thereof). You covered it nicely, IMO.

Thanks.

 

[katydid23]

While I can see where you are coming from, I disagree. Dr. Phil would interview each of them, alone, in front of the audience. I'm sure CR will be by ER's side. Then, the face-to-face interview would take place with Dr. Phil in the center. I doubt MR would loose his cool given how he has interviewed lately, in that calm, "I'm kinder than a kitten" voice. And ER knows how important this interview is; she'll be emotional but will keep it together, IMO. The wildcard is CR.

BBM

BINGO. You worded it perfectly. I think that is one of the main things that bothers me about listening to MR. His ' kinder than a kitten' tone seems phony, imo. Maybe because it reminds me of my abusive uncle, who used to sound exactly like that when he babysat us, and reported back to my parents. His voice was calm and smooth as silk, and covered up all kinds of sick, twisted sins.

 

[dlc]

So Dr Phil hasn't keep up with the requirements to keep his license current. I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is people saying that he is a licensed mental health professional when he's not. MOO.

Okay, well then.

Personally, I still accord the title of "Dr." to physicians and psychologists who have retired, as the fact that they not longer hold a license does not negate the years of training they underwent to receive the degree. My old pediatrician is still "Dr. Smith" to me, although he no longer maintains his license (and expensive malpractice insurance). Just a gesture of respect.

IMO.

Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Okay, well then.

Personally, I still accord the title of "Dr." to physicians and psychologists who have retired, as the fact that they not longer hold a license does not negate the years of training they underwent to receive the degree. My old pediatrician is still "Dr. Smith" to me, although he no longer maintains his license (and expensive malpractice insurance). Just a gesture of respect.

IMO.

Thank you.

I still call him Dr Phil and not plain Phil McGraw.

 

[mck16]

He didn't have to be on the right spot on the couch to answer the home landline. It will ring anywhere anytime. Dylan had a cell phone that could only receive sporadic signal but MR had an actual landline phone in the house that would guarantee that his call would get through.

MOO

I gotcha. Sorry didn't think.

 

[deoneta]

If Dylan is alive and being held by an abductor, he could be anywhere, but it seems the least likely scenario is that he would be close to Vallecito.

If Dylan was abducted and harmed , I believe he might be found close to the Vallecito area. A random predator or psychopath would be more likely to dispose of remains near the scene of the crime and not put a lot of effort into concealment. An acquaintance would be more likely to try and cover his tracks and conceal.

That leaves the third possibility. MR would have had all night to drive in almost any direction and a recovery could be made many miles from Vallecito.

I keep thinking about the DVD. Watching a DVD would be a good way to answer what was done or discussed for nearly two hours. Not having the patience to follow a movie is also a good explanation for being vague on the details of the movie.

I realize many see the family drama as a distraction. It was certainly uppermost in MR's mind when he began the interview with MB. If the third possibility is the correct, the family drama could be less of a distraction and more of a motive. All theories and MOO.

 

[absentia]

There is...
uke:

perfect thanks. guess I didn't look hard enough!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

He didn't have to be on the right spot on the couch to answer the home landline. It will ring anywhere anytime. Dylan had a cell phone that could only receive sporadic signal but MR had an actual landline phone in the house that would guarantee that his call would get through.

MOO

I just noticed this post. Do we have any confirmed information that Mark had an active landline when Dylan disappeared? Do we know if Mark had a Wi-Fi setup in his home?

If he had a landline it would be a valid question as to if he did or didn't try to call Dylan on that line.

Same thing with the Wi-Fi. If he didn't have that set up and working, an iPod Touch being the electronic device that sent the 9:37 text seems to be a remote possibility.

I would like to know if Mark had a landline and a Wi-Fi set up.

 

[mijamawi]

Here's the deal with Dr. Phil....he can poke holes all he wants in MR's story, but he's not LE and wouldn't have access to MR's interrogation by LE so really all he'd be doing is a televised DRN or CMR or FMDR.

 

[mck16]

Here's the deal with Dr. Phil....he can poke holes all he wants in MR's story, but he's not LE and wouldn't have access to MR's interrogation by LE so really all he'd be doing is a televised DRN or CMR or FMDR.

I think you are absolutely right. And it is not the public that determines what happens to MR it is LE. No matter what the feelings are of the court of public appeal/opinion it is evidense that LE has gathered that will solve this. jmo

 

[BeginnersLuck]

If Dylan is alive and being held by an abductor, he could be anywhere, but it seems the least likely scenario is that he would be close to Vallecito.

If Dylan was abducted and harmed , I believe he might be found close to the Vallecito area. A random predator or psychopath would be more likely to dispose of remains near the scene of the crime and not put a lot of effort into concealment. An acquaintance would be more likely to try and cover his tracks and conceal.

That leaves the third possibility. MR would have had all night to drive in almost any direction and a recovery could be made many miles from Vallecito.

I keep thinking about the DVD. Watching a DVD would be a good way to answer what was done or discussed for nearly two hours. Not having the patience to follow a movie is also a good explanation for being vague on the details of the movie.

I realize many see the family drama as a distraction. It was certainly uppermost in MR's mind when he began the interview with MB. If the third possibility is the correct, the family drama could be less of a distraction and more of a motive. All theories and MOO.

BBM: I think he was lashing out and it was done in retaliation for all the other things that had been said negative towards him and all the SM drama. I had noticed prior to this latest interview, how he had done a pretty good job of biting his tongue. I wish he wouldn't have done it, but I can see a person only being pushed so far before they speak out. I find it inappropriate, unproductive and tacky no matter which side it comes from.

 

[findDylan]

What I want to know is when the cell phone last pinged. If Dylan was on it past 8pm there would be a ping record. Right?

 

[TxJan1971]

A message left on Mark Redwine’s cell phone Friday was not returned. The telephone at his residence at 2343 County Road 500 rang until it cut off.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121123/NEWS01/121129810/0/SEARCH/'He-would-have-called

GRACE: Elaine, is there a landline there in the home?

REDWINE: Yes, there is.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html


I have not been able to find "confirmation" of wifi at this time.

 

[Dee10]

I just noticed this post. Do we have any confirmed information that Mark had an active landline when Dylan disappeared? Do we know if Mark had a Wi-Fi setup in his home?

If he had a landline it would be a valid question as to if he did or didn't try to call Dylan on that line.

Same thing with the Wi-Fi. If he didn't have that set up and working, an iPod Touch being the electronic device that sent the 9:37 text seems to be a remote possibility.

I would like to know if Mark had a landline and a Wi-Fi set up.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

GRACE: Elaine, is there a landline there in the home?

REDWINE: Yes, there is.

GRACE: So if he wanted to, he couldn`t make his cell phone get a proper signal, he could have used the landline to call his friends, right?

REDWINE: That would be my assumption as well, yes.

GRACE: Do you know if there is Internet in the home? Does the dad have a laptop or a desktop?

REDWINE: Yes, he does.

GRACE: Did anybody get any e-mails from Dylan?

REDWINE: Not that I`m aware of, no. I certainly didn`t, and I don`t think anyone else did either.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

What I want to know is when the cell phone last pinged. If Dylan was on it past 8pm there would be a ping record. Right?

I'm no expert but I would assume that Dylan's phone would "ping" when it was turned on, it was within range of a cell phone tower and no obstructions prevented his cell phone signal from reaching the tower.

If Dylan's phone made contact with a tower to send information after 8:00 PM then I would assume that would be considered to be a "ping record." I'm not sure if you could say that Dylan "was on it" however. JMO.

 

[cluciano63]

BBM: I think he was lashing out and it was done in retaliation for all the other things that had been said negative towards him and all the SM drama. I had noticed prior to this latest interview, how he had done a pretty good job of biting his tongue. I wish he wouldn't have done it, but I can see a person only being pushed so far before they speak out. I find it inappropriate, unproductive and tacky no matter which side it comes from.

I have to stick with ER on this one. If he had spoken to her in the early days, none of this would have been exposed to the degree it has been, IMO. Her frustrations must have been almost beyond human endurance. I believe it was close to a week before she first said publicly that she felt he may be responsible, possibly because he avoided her, or so it seemed to her and Cory.

As many others have said here, I think I would behaving like a lunatic compared to how ER is and has been acting. MR had physical responsibility for Dylan when he disappeared; in my opinion, he owed her the courtesy of speaking to her as often as she needed, no matter now upset she was. He is Dylan's father before he was the (possibly) hateful ex of a (possibly) hateful ex.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1212/03/ng.01.html

GRACE: Elaine, is there a landline there in the home?

REDWINE: Yes, there is.

GRACE: So if he wanted to, he couldn`t make his cell phone get a proper signal, he could have used the landline to call his friends, right?

REDWINE: That would be my assumption as well, yes.

GRACE: Do you know if there is Internet in the home? Does the dad have a laptop or a desktop?

REDWINE: Yes, he does.

GRACE: Did anybody get any e-mails from Dylan?

REDWINE: Not that I`m aware of, no. I certainly didn`t, and I don`t think anyone else did either.

Thanks. So according to Elaine, Mark had a functioning landline at his home. So now we need to know if Mark tried to call Dylan on that landline. How about Wi-Fi? I'm actually more interested if Mark had that set up.

 

[cluciano63]

This is only an assumption, but since LE said that something may have happened to Dylan at the home, at the same time they released the info about the final communication, I conclude that this communication must have led them to believe he was at the house at some point. Since they had never said so before, the communication may have "pinged" at or near the house. JMO