CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #34

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  • #681
So Elaine's public accusations were not based on any initial feelings she had about Mark's possible involvement but rather because of a lack of communication between the two of them?

JMO but I don't know that Elaine was suspicious of MR having anything to do with Dylan being missing until he wasn't willing to communicate with her. I think that's why she and many people have become suspicious of him.
 
  • #682
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I'm one of those people, and I know several others, who tend to do things like that when tired. It drives me nuts when someone else does it, but I do it at times because I know I'll fall asleep if I sit still for too long. I'd just feel rude if I had company and fell asleep while they were sitting there. MOO

Everybody is different. I had a friend who frequently had migraine headaches, and she would pace back and forth for long periods of time. I've had seriously bad headaches and all I could manage is to lie down with a cold cloth on my head.

However, I didn't take what Mark said as he was pacing, more like just walking around doing things around the kitchen table... what I call puttering. But you're right... I'm the same way, if I'm super tired but don't want to go to bed yet, I have to get up and do something to keep from falling asleep. So I putter around in the kitchen or somewhere.

Some people don't like falling asleep on the couch. Others do it regularly. I despise having to sit through a t.v. show or movie that does not interest me, I would rather go in another room than even listen to it. I don't find it strange or ominous that he was up moving around and then went to bed. I do think his word choice is odd that he "ran" up to bed, but maybe he runs upstairs for exercise, IDK. Some people say they walk upstairs, others say they climb the stairs. Might be a regional thing, might be cultural, but basically it's the same thing, just worded differently.
 
  • #683
No. He's not. He's consistently stated eleventy billion times already that he doesn't know what happened to Dylan. That is no more a unique position than Elaine saying she doesn't know what happened to Dylan. That others think he is in a unique position despite facts, evidence, or objective reasoning doesn't make it so.

He's hired a PI, gives individual interviews, and cooperates fully with LE. That is more than enough for an objective individual to infer genuineness in his claims, as well as deduce that he isn't falling prey to the diversion his mob of critics insist on continually perpetuating.

He is the only one who knows whether he is telling the truth or not. You can either believe him or not, but you don't know if he is telling the truth.
 
  • #684
So Elaine's public accusations were not based on any initial feelings she had about Mark's possible involvement but rather because of a lack of communication between the two of them?

I would have no way of knowing the answer to that .
Just as you would have no way of knowing the answer to that.
I'm just saying she didnt' point a finger at him in PUBLIC until
after several days of him not talking to her.
 
  • #685
He is the only one who knows whether he is telling the truth or not. You can either believe him or not, but you don't know if he is telling the truth.

I know that thus far nothing has been put forth by anyone involved in the investigation that suggests he is not telling the truth. No evidence. No facts. No nothing. Unless or until something that counters his story is put forth by the folks investigating, I take him at his word and consider him a bona fide victim.
 
  • #686
JMO but I don't know that Elaine was suspicious of MR having anything to do with Dylan being missing until he wasn't willing to communicate with her. I think that's why she and many people have become suspicious of him.

Without knowing more about their communication that first week it's hard for me to make a conclusion. Elaine claims he ignored her and then lashes out in public towards him. Is there a connection? I don't know.

If Mark refused to communicate with LE, I would look at that as being suspicious. Having communication difficulties with an ex wife is something else altogether. MOO.
 
  • #687
He is the only one who knows whether he is telling the truth or not. You can either believe him or not, but you don't know if he is telling the truth.

Right ! NO one other than MR knows if he's done something to Dylan or not.
So yea he's got a knowledge of the situation that no one else does.
 
  • #688
I know that thus far nothing has been put forth by anyone involved in the investigation that suggests he is not telling the truth. No evidence. No facts. No nothing. Unless or until something that counters his story is put forth by the folks investigating, I take him at his word and consider him a bona fide victim.

Nothing has been put forward that suggests Dylan was abducted either. Which is the only other possibility LE claims could have taken place.
 
  • #689
MR stated early on that he thought Dylan was probably abducted and taken out of the area. Why was he doing nothing to get Dylan's face out there or searching for his son? Maybe he just figured...oh well, what the heck, he's gone now, nothing I can do but let the investigation take it's natural course.

But he is though. He's distributed flyers to the other truckers at his job who are going out all over the state/nation to put them in public places and giving them to people.
 
  • #690
Wouldn't "remember" be the correct term if he was doing the interview a couple of months after DR's disappearance? I would say "remember" too. Just curious...

remembering is obvious - the event was in the past. everything he says about what happened should be him remembering. The fact that he stated he was remembering something, embedded in a paragraph where he rambles and is not coherent about what happened, is significant. It suggests that he does not actually remember the movie ending (that no movie was watched), or that he is creating a memory.
 
  • #691
I know that thus far nothing has been put forth by anyone involved in the investigation that suggests he is not telling the truth. No evidence. No facts. No nothing. Unless or until something that counters his story is put forth by the folks investigating, I take him at his word and consider him a bona fide victim.

Do you take ER at her word? LE hasn't indicated shes' untruthful so surely you believe her as well?
 
  • #692
Thanks ! So that is what I 've been trying to figure out . ER did not come out immediately accusing him. She started that language after trying to reach him and him ignoring her for several days. Is that correct?
If that is true then why did he ignore her all that time BEFORE she made an accusation against him?
There have been tons of posts saying 'well i wouldnt call her either after she accused me ' but if she
truly did not accuse him until AFTER his silence, then what excuses his silence for close to a week or so
with their baby child missing?

She accused him and cursed him out in the text exchange when he text her and asked her if she had heard from Dylan on that Monday. It started then.
 
  • #693
But he is though. He's distributed flyers to the other truckers at his job who are going out all over the state/nation to put them in public places and giving them to people.

OH that's a curious thing too. So many little points that catch my eye and I forget to mention them for a day or two. Didn't a MSM report come out earlier this week or within the last 2 weeks that said ' both er and mr went back to work this week' ? OR some words to that effect? Because I was wondering how and when he was handing out these flyers when he had not gone back to work or if there was an overlap in the dates between interview and the ' gone back to work' article. tks
 
  • #694
She accused him and cursed him out in the text exchange when he text her and asked her if she had heard from Dylan on that Monday. It started then.

I hadn't read that which doesn't mean it's not here somewhere. But I was
talking about a public accusation from ER to a reporter or something. We
have no idea what she txt to him on day one , do we ? Speculative?
 
  • #695
Do you take ER at her word? LE hasn't indicated shes' untruthful so surely you believe her as well?

Do I believe that she had nothing to do with Dylan's disappearance? Of course, unless or until someone involved in the investigation suggests otherwise. She gets the same benefit of the doubt. She is a bona fide victim.
 
  • #696
OH that's a curious thing too. So many little points that catch my eye and I forget to mention them for a day or two. Didn't a MSM report come out earlier this week or within the last 2 weeks that said ' both er and mr went back to work this week' ? OR some words to that effect? Because I was wondering how and when he was handing out these flyers when he had not gone back to work or if there was an overlap in the dates between interview and the ' gone back to work' article. tks

Cuz he took them to his work and gave them to fellow employees who were taking trucking runs out to wherever they were going. He didn't have to be working to do that, just show up with a couple of handfuls of flyer, give then to his fellow employees, ask them to distribute them, then leave his work.
 
  • #697
I hadn't read that which doesn't mean it's not here somewhere. But I was
talking about a public accusation from ER to a reporter or something. We
have no idea what she txt to him on day one , do we ? Speculative?

No, upthread is a MSM quote from a friend of MR's as to what Elaine had to say to him during that period. And he intimated that she did when he did that MB interview where "all hell broke loose" when he text her and asked her if she'd heard from Dylan. It's out there, both these articles are out there.
 
  • #698
Do I believe that she had nothing to do with Dylan's disappearance? Of course, unless or until someone involved in the investigation suggests otherwise. She gets the same benefit of the doubt. She is a bona fide victim.

I don't get the whole if you support MR you must believe ER did it. It gives me tired head. As I've said eleventy billion times (lol, I like that) I am not pro MR or anti ER. I am pro Dylan and pro facts and pro truth. As of now, I have been given nothing by LE that makes me lean any way or the other. MOO
 
  • #699
Cuz he took them to his work and gave them to fellow employees who were taking trucking runs out to wherever they were going. He didn't have to be working to do that, just show up with a couple of handfuls of flyer, give then to his fellow employees, ask them to distribute them, then leave his work.

Did he ? I could have sworn he said ' when i'm out on the road' , but I'll take your word for because there are way too many msn's dates and quotes for me to keep up with .
Tks for clearing it up . I thought it so weird, so that makes more sense !
 
  • #700
No, upthread is a MSM quote from a friend of MR's as to what Elaine had to say to him during that period. And he intimated that she did when he did that MB interview where "all hell broke loose" when he text her and asked her if she'd heard from Dylan. It's out there, both these articles are out there.

OH see that is a difference of opinion though.
I assumed ' all hell breaks loose' to mean that is when we began the next part which is " our son is missing " vs. ' our son is just off somewhere and will be back' . Like it's serious now and we know it and all hells breaking loose. That's a far cry from she cussed and accused him in the text, to be fair. That's quite a leap of assumption actually.
 
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