CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[ColdHands]

I have never followed a missing child case before so I am looking to WS for this answer.

Have there been any cases where the FAMILY thought the dad was guilty and later it was proven that he was not?

I know there are many times when public opinion puts the guilt label on the father/stepfather and it turns out they were wrong. But has the immediate family ever been wrong in that way?

It's really bothering me this week that both ER and AZG feel MR could be involved and now I am back on the :fence:

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I don't gather that they are in shock. IMO they knew about this 'tip' prior to the tipster calling it in to LE. I think they think it's all bogus. JMO

And my hinky meter is running also...

I know many are excited about this new tip but I won't be surprised if it amounts to nothing. I'm not saying it doesn't need to be checked out. I'm just worried about the source of this information.

I still think it's messed up that the most liked page about this case has not posted about it. They post about how Mark refused to talk to Dr. Phil, but won't post about the new information released by LE that has been covered by numerous media outlets.

LE is not saying that the Hispanic man is suspicious, or they think he is a perp. They just think he is a witness. So I think if they won't post about the tip because they think it's bogus---Well, that speaks volumes to me. What is bogus? That the man doesn't exist? Who are they to decide that?

Even on the "Posts by Others" section, only three people have posted about it.

 

[TxLady2]

Then how would this person know the exact date they saw this hispanic male?
No way would I remember the exact date I saw somebody if it was almost 3 months ago (unless I wrote it down somewhere). Even reporter seems to have gotten the date wrong in one of the articles.

They would if they knew that it was the week of Thanksgiving and the first work day of that week. When they remembered it, they knew which days to associate it with because of the holiday.

 

[SurfieTX]

I have never followed a missing child case before so I am looking to WS for this answer.

Have there been any cases where the FAMILY thought the dad was guilty and later it was proven that he was not?

I know there are many times when public opinion puts the guilt label on the father/stepfather and it turns out they were wrong. But has the immediate family ever been wrong in that way?

It's really bothering me this week that both ER and AZG feel MR could be involved and now I am back on the :fence:

Breeann Rodriguez (3-year-old) comes to mind. Although the case was solved relatively quickly, many were suspicious of her father at first. Turned out she was kidnapped and killed by a neighbor.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

The area also appears to be a good location for RSO's to settle down and find a home within their probation terms.

Yes, a perfect area. I was looking at the RSO list in Durango last night. There weren't many Hispanics, that's why I was wondering what the Hispanic population was in that area. Granted the RSO list isn't going to give me accurate demographics but it did make me wonder. If the majority of the people that are in that area look like bearded mountain men..........maybe this guy would be more noticeable to someone.

I realize that most SO's aren't on the list. There are also alot of RSO's that are listed as transient or their where abouts are unknown.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Breeann Rodriguez (3-year-old) comes to mind. Although the case was solved relatively quickly, many were suspicious of her father at first. Turned out she was kidnapped and killed by a neighbor.

Breeann's immediate family suspected her father?

 

[SurfieTX]

Breeann's immediate family suspected her father?

Not that I am aware of, but some of the public did.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I don't know of many cases where a parent was responsible for a teenage child's death.

It seems like all parents are accused in the beginning, until further details come out. Read the statement analysis on Jessica Ridgeway and Sierra Lamar. There are several for both.

It seems like if the parent is involved the children are much younger and in a lot of cases there is neglect and drug use involved.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I still think it's messed up that the most liked page about this case has not posted about it. They post about how Mark refused to talk to Dr. Phil, but won't post about the new information released by LE that has been covered by numerous media outlets.

LE is not saying that the Hispanic man is suspicious, or they think he is a perp. They just think he is a witness. So I think if they won't post about the tip because they think it's bogus---Well, that speaks volumes to me. What is bogus? That the man doesn't exist? Who are they to decide that?

Even on the "Posts by Others" section, only three people have posted about it.

I don't necessarily think it's odd given the circumstances/sources of the information. That's really all I can say.

 

[*Lash*]

I have never followed a missing child case before so I am looking to WS for this answer.

Have there been any cases where the FAMILY thought the dad was guilty and later it was proven that he was not?

I know there are many times when public opinion puts the guilt label on the father/stepfather and it turns out they were wrong. But has the immediate family ever been wrong in that way?

It's really bothering me this week that both ER and AZG feel MR could be involved and now I am back on the :fence:

Hi ColdHands!

One recent case is missing 15y old Sierra Lamar. Many believed in the beginning her mother and her mothers boyfriend were involved. A stranger was arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Sierra. They still have not found Sierra. DNA from Sierra was found in Antolin Garcia-Torres (the perp) car. His DNA was found on her clothing. He has been awaiting trial since May, 2012. He has yet to even plea.

Sierra Lamar - WS
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196058"]CA CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #20 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I have never followed a missing child case before so I am looking to WS for this answer.

Have there been any cases where the FAMILY thought the dad was guilty and later it was proven that he was not?

I know there are many times when public opinion puts the guilt label on the father/stepfather and it turns out they were wrong. But has the immediate family ever been wrong in that way?

It's really bothering me this week that both ER and AZG feel MR could be involved and now I am back on the :fence:

I can't think of any offhand where the FAMILY believed that a Dad was responsible and it was proven that he was not. I can think of some cases like this that are still unsolved.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Hi ColdHands!

One recent case is missing 15y old Sierra Lamar. Many believed in the beginning her mother and her mothers boyfriend were involved. A stranger was arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Sierra. They still have not found Sierra. DNA from Sierra was found in Antolin Garcia-Torres (the perp) car. His DNA was found on her clothing. He has been awaiting trial since May, 2012. He has yet to even plea.

Sierra Lamar - WS
CA CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 **arrest** - #20 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

But I don't think anyone in the LaMar family thought the Mom or her BF were involved. I think some are misunderstanding the question.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't know how much details the tipster gave. One imagines not many because, again, this is almost three months later.
And I can't help but wonder why the tip was send in now as opposed to early on, when the memory would be fresh.
The article says the tipster didn't think much of it at the time. O'key. Why do they think much of it now?

Good questions. I can only guess, but either they just remembered this incident, or they didn't really associate the incident with Dylan's case.

Believe it or not, some people just are not into these things, and pay little to no attention when it's mentioned on the news. Maybe they were talking about this incident to a co-worker who happened to know more about Dylan's case and told them they better call it in, it could be important.

Could be several explanations, when you really stop and think.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I have never followed a missing child case before so I am looking to WS for this answer.

Have there been any cases where the FAMILY thought the dad was guilty and later it was proven that he was not?

I know there are many times when public opinion puts the guilt label on the father/stepfather and it turns out they were wrong. But has the immediate family ever been wrong in that way?

It's really bothering me this week that both ER and AZG feel MR could be involved and now I am back on the :fence:

I personally put a lot of weight into what both of these woman feel. I know many think it's just bitter ex wife drama but I doubt anyone knows this man more intimately than these two. I have never gotten the feeling that AZG was out for revenge in any way shape or form. I do think ER may have contributed to the drama involved in their nasty divorce but I don't think she wanted to believe that MR could do anything to harm their son as that reflects on her and her choices in life as to who she chose to have children with. And it goes beyond just the two of them. How could so many family members feel that he is capable of something like this?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I have to say that it is interesting to me that everything Elaine says and does is questioned, but when Desiree Young accused Terri Horman of being involved in Kyron's case, it was not questioned. I know two different cases, but people just seem more questioning of anything Elaine says, but Desiree says that Terri showed extreme hatred of Kyron in emails, and it's 100% taken as fact. Desiree told the public that Terri said to her, "I loved your son" and everyone is like OMG, but if Elaine said that Mark said to her, "I loved our son", everyone would be talking about he might have gotten the tenses confused, she misunderstood, you can't go by that, etc. Even when Desiree said she was going to Roseburg, everyone was like, You go girl, but it's announced that Elaine and Cory plan to have protest near Mark's house, and most posts are critical of it.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I don't know how much details the tipster gave. One imagines not many because, again, this is almost three months later.
And I can't help but wonder why the tip was send in now as opposed to early on, when the memory would be fresh.
The article says the tipster didn't think much of it at the time. O'key. Why do they think much of it now?

Maybe because they ran out of leads and were going back to step one and re-interviewing people? It doesn't mean LE was the one asking the people in the area questions. Maybe someone else was or neighbors were talking about it and they told this person, you need to call this information in.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Assuming he exists to begin with, we have a description of hispanic male, average height and weight, and with dark hair.
And almost three months after the fact.
Doesn't sound promising that this person can be found based on the description given (again, assuming he exists to begin with).

I think that he exists and I think that it's possible for him to be found. If he's found, then we'll see if it leads anywhere. MOO.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I don't necessarily think it's odd given the circumstances/sources of the information. That's really all I can say.

Well, I still think that an official page for a missing child case should post all news articles written about the case.

 

[The Cheese]

I can't think of any offhand where the FAMILY believed that a Dad was responsible and it was proven that he was not. I can think of some cases like this that are still unsolved.

I'm trying to think of cases where the parents are divorced or at least separated, missing child is older at least not a toddler, and one side of the family thought the other side disappeared the child.

The closest I can think of would be Kyron Horman, although he's pretty young, and there's been no arrest of TH, but we know the fam on both sides (mom and dad) thinks she (stepmom) is guilty.

That's the only case I can think of that would be somewhat similar.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Well, I still think that an official page for a missing child case should post all news articles written about the case.

IMO I don't think they think it is credible. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.

I'm going to suggest that everyone be cautious about this new lead.

I'm not saying it's not credible. I don't know. LE is obviously taking it seriously.

It's possible, if this person exists they may have seen MR somewhere where he didn't claim to be. Who knows?