CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #35

[Confusion]

Well LE has rule out running away! Ok so if he didnt run away he didnt leave the house to run away and get abducted by a stranger right?

They said they ruled out running away because of the amount of time that had passed with no contact with anyone. How does that translate to he didn't leave the house to run away and get abducted by a stranger? :waitasec:

 

[deoneta]

He's 13, not 33. Too much logic and credit and thought for this to have happened. Teens don't think like that IMO

Yes, 13, but not 6. I don't think a landline would have been so foreign to him that he would never have thought to try it. It wouldn't have taken a lot of logic to call his mom or to simply wait a couple of hours until Dad got home. ALL MOO

 

[*Lash*]

If his battery died, why wouldn't he have plugged it in the charger? If his cell phone died, I think he might have called his mom on the landline and asked for his Christmas present of the new phone early. I would think he'd know the last names of most of his friends and called 411 until he found some parent with a landline. He probably knew where some of the parents worked, and he could have reached someone that way. He could have called his father's employer if he didn't have MR's cell number memorized. I know that is all a lot of work, but it's nothing compared to setting out on his own with all his belongings and a fishing pole hoping to hitch a ride. I just can't buy that because his cell wasn't working he was totally cut off from the world and his only recourse would be to leave instead of, simplest solution of all, waiting for his dad to return. All MOO

Quite possible since Dylan had recently moved he did not know his new home phone number or ER's cellphone number. In my opinion, most kids don't have the kind of patience to do the things you mentioned.

I'm not quite sure about this fishing pole. Postal worker didn't mention fishing pole (even though it appears this sighting was discounted). I do think the type of pole is significant. I wonder if R and Dylan typically went fishing together? Could the pole be taken apart to fit in his backpack? Was it a retractable pole? They do exist.

 

[FruitTingles]

So behind as per usual any news? Updates? Have we heard how the search went? Anything??!

 

[Eileen730]

Are Mark and Elaine offically divorced?

 

[Eileen730]

BBM

I never said that R went back to sleep.

I never said you did!
I said we dont know if he (R) went back to sleep.


We dont know if Dylan ever woke up to go back to sleep!

 

[deoneta]

Are Mark and Elaine offically divorced?

Yes. I'd have to look for a link, but I'm pretty sure they have been divorced for a good many years. I'm thinking 6, but that could well be wrong. All MOO

ETA: 2007

 

[Eileen730]

They said they ruled out running away because of the amount of time that had passed with no contact with anyone. How does that translate to he didn't leave the house to run away and get abducted by a stranger? :waitasec:

I was responding to someone saying maybe he ran away and got abducted!

 

[Eileen730]

Yes. I'd have to look for a link, but I'm pretty sure they have been divorced for a good many years. I'm thinking 6, but that could well be wrong. All MOO

Im trying to figure out why he needed to go to the Divorce Lawyers that morning. It just has me wondering if its offical.

 

[rebeccaeee]

So behind as per usual any news? Updates? Have we heard how the search went? Anything??!

Search may begin Sunday. Dr. Phil may happen the 20th or 27th. LPCSO asking for info about a man reportedly seen by a tipster in the area the morning of the 19th. United Blood Services donating $5 for every blood donation made in a Bayfield blood drive on the 22nd (or 23rd). Some tv interviews with MR and print interviews with ER. Still no Dylan. Glad to see you checking in!

 

[Eileen730]

Yes. I'd have to look for a link, but I'm pretty sure they have been divorced for a good many years. I'm thinking 6, but that could well be wrong. All MOO

ETA: 2007

Im wondering if they filed in 2007 and are still at it?

IDK Just a thought!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I never said you did!
I said we dont know if he (R) went back to sleep.


We dont know if Dylan ever woke up to go back to sleep!

I was just letting you know that I never said that. You did say "If Dylan was in that house he would have gotten up!" We don't know that either.

 

[deoneta]

Im trying to figure out why he needed to go to the Divorce Lawyers that morning. It just has me wondering if its offical.

Yes, I found they were divorced in 2007. That leaves custody, visitation, child support. Some one previously posted that the property issues were settled by ER signing over or withdrawing from the mortgage. I'm not sure exactly how it worked, but ER gave up her claim to any equity and was free from the debt. However it worked, it was supposedly settled. All MOO

ETA link http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...dylan-redwine-points-finger-at-her-ex-husband

 

[*Lash*]

Yes. I'd have to look for a link, but I'm pretty sure they have been divorced for a good many years. I'm thinking 6, but that could well be wrong. All MOO

ETA: 2007

Redwine and Dylan’s mother, Elaine Redwine, divorced in 2007. She and Dylan and another son, Cory, 21, moved to Colorado Springs this summer. Dylan was on a court-ordered visit with his father over the Thanksgiving holiday. It was unclear who obtained the court order.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129662/0/FRONTPAGE/Search-changes-focus

 

[azgrandma]

Maybe because reporters are asking him what he thinks happened? Is he not supposed to answer when he's asked?

People have complained because he wasn't saying anything, now he does, and nobody likes what he is saying. You know, he has the right to think whatever he wants to about what happened to his son, just the same as Elaine does. If they prefer to think he is alive and being hidden somewhere and is not being abused or tortured, or worse ... who are we to say they're wrong?

IMO I don't believe anyone doesn't like that he is talking, I believe (I am only speaking for myself) that it is not the amount of talking he is now doing, it's what he is saying and how he is saying it when he is talking.

I'm not saying that anything MR has recently said in any interview is "new" information because LE may have already had it so it's new to us on WS but not new to LE. I will say that IMO, the information he has given lately keeps changing from his original accounts. Whether it be by the addition of information, the changing of information, or the omission of information. IMOO, it's changed.

Both parents can believe whatever they want to believe, I've never had a child disappear for three months and would never even begin to tell them what to believe in regards to the fate of their child. I don't believe anyone has said that it is wrong, but that's my opinion and take.

 

[Ausgirl]

Sierra Lamar's mother used past tense in some of her communications. She was scrutinized heavily for her word choice. Ultimately a stranger was arrested, charged with kidnapping and murder. I think statement analysis can be useful, but like a polygraph it has its flaws.

Any statement has to be considered in context of the circumstances, and the speakers' state of mind.

While I found it dismaying that both of Dylan's parents spoke about him in past tense at times, I could understand it (while practising my Statement Analysis skillz, as fledgling as they are) since Dylan's been missing for months, and hope must be wearing thin by now even if they don't verbally or even consciously admit it. So, I wisely discounted it - it would have been a very different story if he'd only been missing a few days!

The woman interviewing them used past tense, too, probably for much the same reason.

 

[azgrandma]

Yes, he did. My point being that neither MR nor R were concerned when Dylan did not respond to their text messages. Was this normal behavior for Dylan? Why was no one concerned that he was not responding to their text messages? I suppose they thought he was just sleeping in. Who knows?

In all fairness, R is a child, a friend, a teenager with plans for the day. I don't find it odd at all that R would text and then go about his business with his friends expecting to hear from Dylan sometime.

MR is a parent, a caretaker, an adult with no idea where his son is when he returns to an empty house. He should have been concerned when he couldn't reach him over a 4 hour period of attempting to contact him, he should have been alarmed when he came home to an empty house with all Dylan's belongings gone. After his 2-3 hr nap, he should have been in a panic state. (all IMO)

 

[mmmagique]

Ben Ownby, who was abducted and kept along with Shawn Hornbeck, was 13 years old.

I could see four days...I can't see 3 (almost 4) months.

 

[Eileen730]

Redwine and Dylan’s mother, Elaine Redwine, divorced in 2007. She and Dylan and another son, Cory, 21, moved to Colorado Springs this summer. Dylan was on a court-ordered visit with his father over the Thanksgiving holiday. It was unclear who obtained the court order.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121127/NEWS01/121129662/0/FRONTPAGE/Search-changes-focus

thanks everyone!

 

[Tonto]

So behind as per usual any news? Updates? Have we heard how the search went? Anything??!

1. LE releases a rare lead to the public coming from the actual investigation.
2. Folks work tirelessly to dismiss said lead.
3. Back to blaming MR.