CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #36

[cluciano63]

I have read about hitch hiking abductions in Australia, and it sounds like it's very sudden and unexpected that a knife is pulled. Sometimes potential victims get away, but it usually involves jumping out of a moving vehicle and sometimes running through traffic while someone is chasing, possibly shooting.

Wouldn't teens text after getting in the vehicle? That's as long as it takes to be overcome and unable to send the text. An abductor would get the phone first to prevent the possibility that Dylan took a picture of the vehicle before getting in and was about to send the picture to a friend. Wouldn't the phone would be the first thing to go during an abduction.

Did Dylan have cell phone service at his dad's house? It sounds like he didn't. He could have used the house phone ... all the humbers were stored in his phone ... but then the suggestion is that his cell phone was dead ... so there was internet and cable in the house ... so he could have facebooked his friends. When did his social media contact stop?

We've been told that Dylan had no contact with anyone after Sunday night, and only MR to say he was there and asleep on Monday. If his phone stopped working, his father knew nothing about it, as he said he texted him on Monday several,times.

 

[mck16]

mck, I've been going by my gut feelings as well and I think they are similar to your own. If ya just ain't feelin it, ya ain't feelin it. Ya know??? And think about also if the tone had been set differently and if at least the two parents had stood together in the beginning.

I feel so often that Dylan got lost in the middle of all the drama. It's really sad that so often the mods have to remind us to reign in our egos and remember that this is about a boy who is missing and not about whether we are right or wrong. It just seems like this is all that surrounds poor Dylan. His parents are basically doing the same thing in the public that we are.

Where does this leave Dylan? Sometimes I don't even feel anymore like any of us are helping to find Dylan, just pissing and moaning at each other. IMO, JMO (Sorry for the wording, was trying to think of another way to put this but it's late and I'm tired.)

I totally agree with you. Evidence how quickly everyone jumped on the posts to Otto. So wanted to sway their opinion on someone who only asked a few questions. We have become a forum of opinion and not of facts. And I agree Dylan has been lost in the battle between MR did it. Just because I don't believe MR harmed his son does not mean I do not feel the horror and sadness ER feels. I cry for her and know that this is the most awful thing a mother can go through. But, feeling MR is not responsible does not mean I think she is. I absolutely do not and I only wish this could come together and they find their son or at least come to peace together. This has become a situation that will never have a good resolution. No matter what the outcome is this family is going to always be screwed up. That to me is so sad. There are just no words. jmo

 

[otto]

Is this the dead-end road where Dad lives?

 

[Lordeebee]

Originally Posted by Allusonz View Post
The only thing LE to my knowledge has ruled out is runaway.

The dad allowed searches, did interviews with LE, did a formal interview with the task force, without a lawyer, LE started searching pretty much right away, thus I don't think they truly ever considered him a runaway.

LE said the reason they didn't consider him a runaway was because of the absence of any cell phone activity, not because of anything MR did or didn't do.

 

[ColdHands]

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I have read about hitch hiking abductions in Australia, and it sounds like it's very sudden and unexpected that a knife is pulled. Sometimes potential victims get away, but it usually involves jumping out of a moving vehicle and sometimes running through traffic while someone is chasing, possibly shooting.

Wouldn't teens text after getting in the vehicle? That's as long as it takes to be overcome and unable to send the text. An abductor would get the phone first to prevent the possibility that Dylan took a picture of the vehicle before getting in and was about to send the picture to a friend. Wouldn't the phone would be the first thing to go during an abduction.

Yes, absolutely.

Did Dylan have cell phone service at his dad's house? It sounds like he didn't. He could have used the house phone ... all the humbers were stored in his phone ... but then the suggestion is that his cell phone was dead ... so there was internet and cable in the house ... so he could have facebooked his friends. When did his social media contact stop?

To justify a theory where Dylan is abducted outside the house, I believe the question of why didn't Dylan contact his friends that morning has to be addressed. Based on the opinions of people who know Dylan, I think he would attempt to contact them as soon as he got up. I think he would have contacted them before he went outside. And I definitely believe he would have tried to contact someone before he decided to walk anywhere.

So hopefully you understand why the Abducted Outside the House theory is not a slam dunk and is still hotly debated. The lack of contact is a real issue. IMO.

 

[otto]

We've been told that Dylan had no contact with anyone after Sunday night, and only MR to say he was there and asleep on Monday. If his phone stopped working, his father knew nothing about it, as he said he texted him on Monday several,times.

So Dad texted Dylan from the house ... 11:30 or 2:30 (after his nap)? That would mean that cell phone service was available in the house ... and most likely cable and internet as well. It's possible that Dylan's cell phone was dead, but not likely that he was cut off from everyone. If he didn't connect with anyone ... did he have access to a computer in the house? Did his dad have a password protected system that Dylan couldn't access? That might be a reason to hitch hike ... teenagers cut off from social media would probably have some sort of withdrawal.

 

[Ronald99]

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Yes, absolutely.



To justify a theory where Dylan is abducted outside the house, I believe the question of why didn't Dylan contact his friends that morning has to be addressed. Based on the opinions of people who know Dylan, I think he would attempt to contact them as soon as he got up. I think he would have contacted them before he went outside. And I definitely believe he would have tried to contact someone before he decided to walk anywhere.

So hopefully you understand why the Abducted Outside the House theory is not a slam dunk and is still hotly debated. The lack of contact is a real issue. IMO.

If it wasn't for Sunday night, and the loss of Dylan's cell phone communicating with the Tower, Would the Fathers account of everything have been more believable ?

 

[deoneta]

So Dad texted Dylan from the house ... 11:30 or 2:30 (after his nap)? That would mean that cell phone service was available in the house ... and most likely cable and internet as well. It's possible that Dylan's cell phone was dead, but not likely that he was cut off from everyone. If he didn't connect with anyone ... did he have access to a computer in the house? Did his dad have a password protected system that Dylan couldn't access? That might be a reason to hitch hike ... teenagers cut off from social media would probably have some sort of withdrawal.

There was a computer and Dylan's ipod. Whether there was WiFi is not known. There was a landline however. In was actually during the morning while he was away on errands that MR was texting Dylan according to his interview. It's not know why he wouldn't have tried the landline if he failed to get a response to his texts. All MOO

 

[otto]

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Yes, absolutely.



To justify a theory where Dylan is abducted outside the house, I believe the question of why didn't Dylan contact his friends that morning has to be addressed. Based on the opinions of people who know Dylan, I think he would attempt to contact them as soon as he got up. I think he would have contacted them before he went outside. And I definitely believe he would have tried to contact someone before he decided to walk anywhere.

So hopefully you understand why the Abducted Outside the House theory is not a slam dunk and is still hotly debated. The lack of contact is a real issue. IMO.

If his dad had a laptop that was password protected ... and dad didn't give Dylan the password ... then maybe, if Dylan's phone was dead, then he didn't have access to social media. Maybe he wanted to connect with his friends and ... how did he know when his dad was coming home? Did dad tell Dylan that he would be busy for five hours? Did he tell him that he was busy that evening or in the morning?

 

[Lordeebee]

BBM

Your post just make me think of something. I know MR said things like "he knew I'd be working on getting him down to his friends," but did Dylan really know that? Has MR ever specifically said that he told Dylan that he would give him a ride when he got back?

Mark said that Dylan said "I understand".

 

[deoneta]

If his dad had a laptop that was password protected ... and dad didn't give Dylan the password ... then maybe, if Dylan's phone was dead, then he didn't have access to social media. Maybe he wanted to connect with his friends and ... how did he know when his dad was coming home? Did dad tell Dylan that he would be busy for five hours? Did he tell him that he was busy that evening or in the morning?

All we know he what MR said in the long interview. He said Dylan knew he would be "working on getting him to his friends." All MOO.

 

[otto]

There was a computer and Dylan's ipod. Whether there was WiFi is not known. There was a landline however. In was actually during the morning while he was away on errands that MR was texting Dylan according to his interview. It's not know why he wouldn't have tried the landline if he failed to get a response to his texts. All MOO

Would the father have a reason to murder his son, who was visiting for a few days?

 

[Lordeebee]

]Someone above said ER shows considerable restraint but I wonder why? [/B]Why not come out publicly with these questions and really shine the light on MR? Is it concern of some repercussion such as a lawsuit? Embarrassment over dirty laundry? Forget that, Dylan is missing! And if ER does not feel capable, which i absolutely could understand, then why not have other family members talk?

A lot of people will never look twice at the unofficial FB pages because of all the other nonsense that goes on there. And so a very important story, Dylan's story, is not being told to the public. I hope that the Dr Phil show will give the family a forum to come forward with their concerns.

I asked last week - has there ever been a missing child case where the family felt the dad was responsible and as later proved wrong? And not a single case was found. I put a lot of weight on ER, CR and AZG's opinions. And I am completely open to discussing and helping to develop any and all theories, but their opinions are always in the back of my mind.

BBM
I've wondered that too, CH. All I could come up with was (guesses) -
MR threatened a libel / defamation suit, or LE has asked her not to.

 

[Lordeebee]

We've been told that Dylan had no contact with anyone after Sunday night, and only MR to say he was there and asleep on Monday. If his phone stopped working, his father knew nothing about it, as he said he texted him on Monday several,times.

Yes, and as far as we know - there was nothing left behind in the house to show that Dylan was ever there. LE had to get clothing items from the mother to enable the first canine search.

 

[deoneta]

Would the father have a reason to murder his son, who was visiting for a few days?

No reason of course because there really can't be a reason. A possible motive could be revenge against his ex. ER and MR were divorced in 2007, but the legal battles continued. In fact, MR had an appointment with his divorce attorney when he was out running errands that Monday morning. ER had moved away along with Dylan and Dylan's older brother and was about to remarry. ER was awarded primary custody. According to ER and another ex-wife who is a verified insider, MR had a history of keeping the children from their mothers by not returning on time after visitation. All MOO.

 

[otto]

No reason of course because there really can't be a reason. A possible motive could be revenge against his ex. ER and MR were divorced in 2007, but the legal battles continued. In fact, MR had an appointment with his divorce attorney when he was out running errands that Monday morning. ER had moved away along with Dylan and Dylan's older brother and was about to remarry. ER was awarded primary custody. According to ER and another ex-wife who is a verified insider, MR had a history of keeping the children from their mothers by not returning on time after visitation. All MOO.

Revenge against his ex-wife taken out on one of their children?

 

[LJKaust]

Is it possible that Dylan had planned to have someone pick him up from MR's and had made those plans prior to leaving for his trip? I was just reading a comment on an MSM article, from someone close to another boy that is currently missing. He says that he was contacted by another parent whose child had met someone online and that person had sent him a train ticket.

Maybe he already knew that his dad was going to be out in the morning and told this person that he would be able to sneak away. Now I don't necessarily class this scenario as him running away, more that he may have been tricked and gotten involved in something of which he had no idea about.

 

[Lordeebee]

No reason of course because there really can't be a reason. A possible motive could be revenge against his ex. ER and MR were divorced in 2007, but the legal battles continued. In fact, MR had an appointment with his divorce attorney when he was out running errands that Monday morning. ER had moved away along with Dylan and Dylan's older brother and was about to remarry. ER was awarded primary custody. According to ER and another ex-wife who is a verified insider, MR had a history of keeping the children from their mothers by not returning on time after visitation. All MOO.

Or it was an accidental death in a heated argument. Dylan was meant to go to his friends house the night before and his dad changed the plan and wouldn't let him go. Definitely OMO

 

[deoneta]

Revenge against his ex-wife taken out on one of their children?

Of course it's a horrible thought, but unfortunately not unheard of. Some believe Dylan didn't really want to visit because he preferred to spend the holiday with his mom. That is conjecture as far as we know. We do know Dylan was anxious to visit with his friends. Some believe that angered MR who had just gone back to court to get the visitation. Again, that is conjecture. All MOO.

 

[Ronald99]

Was there ever an Amber Alert concerning Dylan issued ?

If not, WHY ?