CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #36

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Sometimes a case comes along that screams to look outside the box, rarely will many do this, as more often than not some tend to just rinse and repeat what they did in the previous cases, without thought to the harm it may cause. I guess if one plays the stats often enough, they are bound to get it right sooner or later.

Many have chosen to accept every word that ER has stated as an absolute I have chosen not to, and instead have focused on what his friends have stated as well as LE.

I think the scenario that you have presented is a viable possibility here, especially once I researched active groups within the area. Like you have stated with respect to your cousin, they don't have access to the outside world and in fact usually it is severed completely to include family.

The fact that the maternal side did not jump on a potential break in the case solidified my thought process. I cannot understand why someone would be adamantly dismissive of Dylan being a runaway, dismissive of sightings which I believe LE has not completely ruled out in the case of the postal worker, as LE used ambiguous wording with respect to the early sightings. I am completely dumbfounded why someone would go to such great lengths to dismiss a potential witness, to the point of refusing to acknowledge it on the official Facebook page and going to extremes that I have seen in social media .

The silence from the maternal side with respect to that lead was deafening. More so than any words and/or actions of MR.

This is a scenario that does not require leaps and bounds with respect to cell phone usage, and in fact the area would be conducive to the spotty cell phone reception. Getting from point A to point B would be easily explained right up to and including a missing fishing pole. Dylan would be a perfect target of these groups.

Are you suggesting Dylan was walking and someone from a group like this snatched him OR are you suggesting someone Dylan knows placed him with this group for safe keeping until a later date? TKS
 
Speaking of the bike outside of the home, this is the type of bike that middle school boys ride. They raise the seats and handlebars. They like to race this type of bike. Dylan looks to be on the smaller frame size 13 year old. I believe he would ride this type of bike.
 
Thanks for the reminder of these words by the Bender ! So I'm wondering about this portion "" or
something happened while he was still at the house'''.
Does that language eliminate that an abductor took him from INSIDE the house? Or am I reading too much into it ? It seems to read he either left on his own or ' _________________' happened inside the house. All we can really know from the statement is LE believes he was inside the house that night for whatever reason, they must KNOW it to be true.

'Something' at the house includes abduction to me, because he's not qualifying it or limiting it.
 
Kinda OT... There is a boy missing from pagosa springs, co, about an hour and a half from Durango. His name is Dillon McKee. I looked but could not find anything (though i didnt look through everything) on WS about him and have no idea how to start a thread. This is the only info I could find in the couple minutes I looked. http://www.pagosadailypost.com/news/22567/MISSING_MINOR_ALERT:_As_of_8:15am,_still_missing/
If anyone could post or help look for more info that would be great. :)
 
Kinda OT... There is a boy missing from pagosa springs, co, about an hour and a half from Durango. His name is Dillon McKee. I looked but could not find anything (though i didnt look through everything) on WS about him and have no idea how to start a thread. This is the only info I could find in the couple minutes I looked. http://www.pagosadailypost.com/news/22567/MISSING_MINOR_ALERT:_As_of_8:15am,_still_missing/
If anyone could post or help look for more info that would be great. :)

I don't have any help for you but I would like to ask if any WS know why any kind of alert was not issued for Dylan Redwine? I see in this article "a missing minor alert." In the Kelsie Jean Schelling articles they said a "state wide alert has been issued." Hugely frustrated that Dylan Redwine couldn't "qualify" for any alert type. :(
 
He could have opend that movie DVD while in the truck not in the house.
His prints on the DVD player could be on it from a previous time.\

JMO

He could've, but doesn't Walmart have parking lot cams? That way they could see if the purchases were put in the bed of the truck or in the cab. I'm just trying to think of ways that LE could establish that Dylan actually arrived THAT NIGHT as opposed to traces of him from previous visits.
 
Are you suggesting Dylan was walking and someone from a group like this snatched him OR are you suggesting someone Dylan knows placed him with this group for safe keeping until a later date? TKS

I think Bender stated it best when he said that it could be that something happened at the house or after he left. I don't believe from what I saw of the backpack that he had alot in it. In fact I would doubt it had even been unpacked. I as well doubt that ER packed it and even if she did I know I would usually take most of the crap I did not want out.

I think Dylan lived out of his backpack, much like I state I feel like I live out of a suitcase when I am forced to travel so much.

My one concern is that something went wrong as the HRD dogs did hit on the lake.
 
I don't have any help for you but I would like to ask if any WS know why any kind of alert was not issued for Dylan Redwine? I see in this article "a missing minor alert." In the Kelsie Jean Schelling articles they said a "state wide alert has been issued." Hugely frustrated that Dylan Redwine couldn't "qualify" for any alert type. :(

I think because he was believed runaway for the first few days ?
Im just guessing. But that brings up another point, MR said DR
has nothing to run away from , so why in the first few days would
LE assume he was a run away with his dad saying ' there s no way
he's run away '
Paraphrasing/ guessing.
 
I don't have any help for you but I would like to ask if any WS know why any kind of alert was not issued for Dylan Redwine? I see in this article "a missing minor alert." In the Kelsie Jean Schelling articles they said a "state wide alert has been issued." Hugely frustrated that Dylan Redwine couldn't "qualify" for any alert type. :(

Your not the only one frustrated. I think the biggest reason was that for a week they thought he was a runaway and they don't issue alerts for runaways unless there is some kind of medical or mental (correct wording?) condition.
 
Kinda OT... There is a boy missing from pagosa springs, co, about an hour and a half from Durango. His name is Dillon McKee. I looked but could not find anything (though i didnt look through everything) on WS about him and have no idea how to start a thread. This is the only info I could find in the couple minutes I looked. http://www.pagosadailypost.com/news/22567/MISSING_MINOR_ALERT:_As_of_8:15am,_still_missing/
If anyone could post or help look for more info that would be great. :)

When in doubt, give the link to a MOD and let them decide to make a thread or not. I've done that in the past !
 
In my opinion, MR may have purchased the one way ticket for many reasons. Not flattering reasons, but not necessarily nefarious.

•MR did not want to take the time drive to Durango to pick up Dylan. He would rather spend the money to fly him.
•If MR does spend some time driving as part of his job, he may not want to spend his off time driving.
•MR did not feel it was his responsibility to pay the cost for Dylan to return home via a round trip plane ticket. In my opinion, MR felt this was Elaine's responsibility. Selfishly, he wasn't going to make it easy for ER.

Early on someone who lives in CO said that when an ex-spouse leaves the state, that each parent has to pay one way for the transportation for visitation. You pay to bring the child to you. So Mark would pay to bring Dylan to his place, and Elaine would pay to bring him back to her. IIRC they had links and everything. I'll try to find it in a little while.
 
OT , if the asteroid does NOT hit MR , can we all agree he's innocent ? :)

I think it works the other way around. If it hits him he's innocent. Like if you throw him in the reservoir and he drowns he's innocent.
 
I just noticed that Mark's friend, TM, posted on Facebook that Dr Phil will tape the 26th, and she says Mark, Elaine, Cory and Brandon (?) will be on the show.

Also, if it hasn't been posted, there will be a fundraiser in Bayfield next week and TM says United Pipeline will match the amount raised.

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2 different cadavar dogs hits, on the same locations, on the same lake?

The search for 13-year-old Dylan Redwine entered its seventh day Sunday with divers searching Vallecito Lake after K-9 dogs alerted handlers they had picked up a scent coming from the water.

It wasn't clear whether the smell they detected Saturday and again Sunday morning at the south end of the lake had anything to do with the youngster, said La Plata Sheriff's Office spokesman Dan Bender.

"We had two of the dogs alerted on the surface of the lake. It could be a submerged deer or elk or something else," Bender said.

Divers from the New Mexico State Police are assisting in the search after two La Plata County Search and Rescue K-9s — Cay and Sayla — signaled they had found something.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22063185/sunday-search-launched-missing-boy-laplata-county

Upon receiving items that belonged to Dylan, did LE use scent dogs at the same time as the cadaver dog search?

None of Dylan’s belongings that could carry his scent was available in the first days of the investigation. But the family had articles of the boy’s clothing delivered on the weekend.

“We have the clothes,” Bender said Monday. “We don’t need them here (at the reservoir), but can use them later.”

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121126/NEWS01/121129702/Frustration-mounting

No description of the missing fishing pole?

Mark Redwine said Sunday that he hadn't been able to find the boy's fishing rod.

"I question why it has taken this long to start scouring the lake because from Day One they have known it is likely he had a fishing pole with him," Redwine, 52, said.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22063185/sunday-search-launched-missing-boy-laplata-county
 
I think because he was believed runaway for the first few days ?
Im just guessing. But that brings up another point, MR said DR
has nothing to run away from , so why in the first few days would
LE assume he was a run away with his dad saying ' there s no way
he's run away '
Paraphrasing/ guessing.
I'm no expert, but doesn't LE normally lean toward the runaway theory whenever a teen is involved?
 
Honestly, I do not take the fact that a "Hispanic-looking man" was in town on November 19 as a "lead."

Seems to me that if Dylan was out and about that morning, the person who reported the "Hispanic stranger" should have seen him. Or someone local should have seen him. Why should this man be any more likely to have seen Dylan? Or do we suppose he "took" Dylan, and yet made sure a local got a good look at him in a way he would remember?

LE is asking for this person to come forward, as it would be irresponsible not to do so. But with the accuracy of eyewitnesses as to details being notoriously poor, I would hardly call this a lead, especially with such a vague description.
 
I really wish MR would not do the Dr. Phil show......it's not going to be about Dylan.
 
Kinda OT... There is a boy missing from pagosa springs, co, about an hour and a half from Durango. His name is Dillon McKee. I looked but could not find anything (though i didnt look through everything) on WS about him and have no idea how to start a thread. This is the only info I could find in the couple minutes I looked. http://www.pagosadailypost.com/news/22567/MISSING_MINOR_ALERT:_As_of_8:15am,_still_missing/
If anyone could post or help look for more info that would be great. :)

From the article:

The driver was described as being caucasion or possibly hispanic.

The driver is female - wonder if she is related to the male hispanic in DR's case?
 
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