CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #36

[Ronald99]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...zcMChFc7hBPs9r1QOC34asA&bvm=bv.42553238,d.eWU

DYLAN NICHOLAS REDWINE
NCMC1206449
-Endangered Missing
DOB: Feb 6, 1999 Age: 14
Missing: Nov 19, 2012 Race: White
Location: BAYFIELD, CO, US
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

CHRISTOPHER ALLEN MCMILLIN
NCMC1209489
-Endangered Runaway
DOB: Oct 18, 1996 Age: 16
Missing: Dec 15, 2012 Race: White
Location: CASTLE ROCK, CO, US
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

SHELBY LANE MORRISON
NCMC1210603
-Endangered Runaway
DOB: Oct 17, 1995 Age: 17
Missing: Jan 18, 2013 Race: White
Location: COLORADO SPRINGS, CO, US
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

Shelby Morrison missing from Colarado Springs, CO
Christopher Mcmillin missing from Castle Rock,CO

Colarado Springs, CO - Distance - Castle Rock, CO 41 miles

Dylan missing November 19 2012
Christopher Mcmillin missing December 15 2012
Shelby Morrison missing January 18 2013

I posted the above because of the similarities of these three missing teens, all three came up missing around the same time over a three month Pierod, and Colarado Springs is where Shelby was Living, and Dylan was living there prior to visiting his Father, and the other missing teen Christopher from Castle Rock, CO is around 40 miles from Colarado Springs, CO.

 

[Salem]

STOP fighting and bickering in here. All opinions and theories are welcome. If you don't want to participate, that's fine. Move past the posts or move on to another thread.

BUT don't tell others to "take a break" or that their speculation is "off-topic" or imply that others may ONLY discuss what you want them to discuss.

Be kind to each other, a child is lost and he needs to be found and bickering and attacking do nothing to reach that common goal.

Salem

 

[azgrandma]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...zcMChFc7hBPs9r1QOC34asA&bvm=bv.42553238,d.eWU

DYLAN NICHOLAS REDWINE
NCMC1206449
-Endangered Missing
DOB: Feb 6, 1999 Age: 14
Missing: Nov 19, 2012 Race: White
Location: BAYFIELD, CO, US
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

CHRISTOPHER ALLEN MCMILLIN
NCMC1209489
-Endangered Runaway
DOB: Oct 18, 1996 Age: 16
Missing: Dec 15, 2012 Race: White
Location: CASTLE ROCK, CO, US
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

SHELBY LANE MORRISON
NCMC1210603
-Endangered Runaway
DOB: Oct 17, 1995 Age: 17
Missing: Jan 18, 2013 Race: White
Location: COLORADO SPRINGS, CO, US
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

Shelby Morrison missing from Colarado Springs, CO
Christopher Mcmillin missing from Castle Rock,CO

Colarado Springs, CO - Distance - Castle Rock, CO 41 miles

Dylan missing November 19 2012
Christopher Mcmillin missing December 15 2012
Shelby Morrison missing January 18 2013

I posted the above because of the similarities of these three missing teens, all three came up missing around the same time over a three month Pierod, and Colarado Springs is where Shelby was Living, and Dylan was living there prior to visiting his Father, and the other missing teen Christopher from Castle Rock, CO is around 40 miles from Colarado Springs, CO.

BBM - two are endangered Runaways, Dylan is endangered MISSING. I hope all three are found soon, but I fail to see the similarities other than they are all in CO and still missing. What are you seeing that I'm not? tia

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

There are two things that interest me:

1. The texts vs. cell phone records.

Texts: Denver post.: "...his last text message was sent at 9:37 p.m. on Nov. 18."

Cell phone records: Sgt. Bender quote: "...there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.” (Italics by me)

Those are two different dates. Dylan was reported missing on Nov. 19. Sgt. Bender may have misspoken. But I don't think so. I think the texts ended on the 18th, the cell phone records ended on the 19th. I get the distinct feeling everything Sgt. Bender says is carefully worded, not for the public's benefit. But for the perpetrator's.


2. MR rearranged his living room furniture.

If I was LE, I'd be back there in a flash with pictures of the living room taken during the search warrant investigation. I'd take new pictures. Then move everything that was changed and take a good look. Is there a dent in the wall? Discoloration in the paint? Something really, really small that was missed and that can't be fixed, so was covered up? Maybe the furniture was just moved because MR likes to change things around. But it seems significant.
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MOO

 

[tlcya]

I think its very sad that this other young man with a similar name is missing under very different circumstances that the young man to whom this thread is devoted.

IMO Dillon's disappearance is unrelated to Dylan's disappearance. Others may feel it could be related and that is one theory. I would hate to see discussion about the other young man (Dillon) take over or derail this thread. :twocents:

I have no dog in the fight other than feeling for the loved ones of both missing boys.

 

[Flutterflies]

BBM - two are endangered Runaways, Dylan is endangered MISSING. I hope all three are found soon, but I fail to see the similarities other than they are all in CO and still missing. What are you seeing that I'm not? tia

I see one per month. The latest Dillon for this month.

Could be a goal of one per month?

IMO, a run a way could be lured in the beginning.

Just brain storming.

MOO

 

[tamild]

Respectfully snipped by me

2. MR rearranged his living room furniture.

If I was LE, I'd be back there in a flash with pictures of the living room taken during the search warrant investigation. I'd take new pictures. Then move everything that was changed and take a good look. Is there a dent in the wall? Discoloration in the paint? Something really, really small that was missed and that can't be fixed, so was covered up? Maybe the furniture was just moved because MR likes to change things around. But it seems significant.
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MOO

This is a great point. I wonder, with absolutely nothing to suggest it actually happened, if LE could've removed some things for testing which would've created a need to rearrange things?

 

[cluciano63]

JMO, I think too much is being read into every syllable uttered by Bender. Especially early on, I am not convinced he is/was highly knowledgable about the ins and out of how cell phones work, ping, etc.

I don't believe that anything much is to be gleaned from the various phrases used by him, or other LE, especially from the first days or week of this case.

Even now, LE more or less admits they are just guessing as to what happened to Dylan.

 

[TxJan1971]

BBM - two are endangered Runaways, Dylan is endangered MISSING. I hope all three are found soon, but I fail to see the similarities other than they are all in CO and still missing. What are you seeing that I'm not? tia

I also wonder if the two endangered "runaways" were involved in a contentious court ordered visitation when they disappeared/ran away...

 

[Ronald99]

BBM - two are endangered Runaways, Dylan is endangered MISSING. I hope all three are found soon, but I fail to see the similarities other than they are all in CO and still missing. What are you seeing that I'm not? tia

All three resided near or in Colarado Springs, CO.
All three became missing about one month apart from the next.
I looked at how all three are classified either endangered Runaways or endangered missing.

My opinion and belief of Dylan being missing points towards the Father even though he's not been named a person of interest or suspect.

From the timeframe of Dylan's texts to his friend Ryan that Sunday night, Dylan was texting he couldn't meet Ryan that night. Dylan texted that before they finished walmart and before going to Walmart McDonald's.

The Father in the majority of interviews has told the reporters he told Dylan it was to late to see his Friend that night after the trip to walmart and McDonald's.
Not beforehand that would coincide with the Text messages between Dylan and Ryan.

Plus Dylan's cell phone the way it just mysteriously stopped working that night, and has never regained communication with the tower, and Dylan just Disappears, no one just Disappears unless they want to, or another person or persons are the cause.

My suspicioun is totally directed at the person that was Responsible for Dylan's safety while on court ordered visitation.

 

[jjenny]

JMO, I think too much is being read into every syllable uttered by Bender. Especially early on, I am not convinced he is/was highly knowledgable about the ins and out of how cell phones work, ping, etc.

I don't believe that anything much is to be gleaned from the various phrases used by him, or other LE, especially from the first days or week of this case.

Even now, LE more or less admits they are just guessing as to what happened to Dylan.

Agreed. Bender might not have been choosing his words as carefully as we think he was. Also, LE does appear to claim they don't have evidence or suspects.

 

[ColdHands]

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This is a great point. I wonder, with absolutely nothing to suggest it actually happened, if LE could've removed some things for testing which would've created a need to rearrange things?

I wondered whether MR moved things to either accommodate the guests he's had in the past three months or possibly for the camera crew for some reason.

I hope the forensic search included moving everything. It's a strange thing to do, move furniture. It's not like there are a lot of configurations that would work.

 

[KateNY]

There are two things that interest me:

1. The texts vs. cell phone records.

Texts: Denver post.: "...his last text message was sent at 9:37 p.m. on Nov. 18."

Cell phone records: Sgt. Bender quote: "...there’s been nothing on his cellphone record since he was reported missing.” (Italics by me)

Those are two different dates. Dylan was reported missing on Nov. 19. Sgt. Bender may have misspoken. But I don't think so. I think the texts ended on the 18th, the cell phone records ended on the 19th. I get the distinct feeling everything Sgt. Bender says is carefully worded, not for the public's benefit. But for the perpetrator's.


2. MR rearranged his living room furniture.

If I was LE, I'd be back there in a flash with pictures of the living room taken during the search warrant investigation. I'd take new pictures. Then move everything that was changed and take a good look. Is there a dent in the wall? Discoloration in the paint? Something really, really small that was missed and that can't be fixed, so was covered up? Maybe the furniture was just moved because MR likes to change things around. But it seems significant.
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MOO

#1
U/C BM...exactly!! look what we found (FBI forensics team)

#2
wonder when the furniture was changed...if it was done prior to the FBI search warrent..

would local LE have even taken pics on their very initial walk thru
what's SOP for that

?

 

[mijamawi]

2. MR rearranged his living room furniture.

If I was LE, I'd be back there in a flash with pictures of the living room taken during the search warrant investigation. I'd take new pictures. Then move everything that was changed and take a good look. Is there a dent in the wall? Discoloration in the paint? Something really, really small that was missed and that can't be fixed, so was covered up? Maybe the furniture was just moved because MR likes to change things around. But it seems significant.
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MOO

RSBM

I would imagine LE did a VERY thorough search of MR's house. I believe they were there most of the day. MR very well could have moved things around after the search when things were probably in disarray. When these type of searches are performed, is it the habit of LE to put things back?

 

[jjenny]

I see one per month. The latest Dillon for this month.

Could be a goal of one per month?

IMO, a run a way could be lured in the beginning.

Just brain storming.

MOO

Are you suggesting that there is a gang of people that for whatever reason kidnapping teenagers named Dillon or Dylan?

 

[Money Girl]

I'm not concerned about the rearranged furniture. It could have been moved about by LE when they did the thorough inspection of MR's home and he just pushed it into the most convenient position.

Or, because of the picketing in front of his home and the publicity leading up to it, maybe MR thought he would be safer without his back to the living room window/door.

 

[mijamawi]

I think its very sad that this other young man with a similar name is missing under very different circumstances that the young man to whom this thread is devoted.

IMO Dillon's disappearance is unrelated to Dylan's disappearance. Others may feel it could be related and that is one theory. I would hate to see discussion about the other young man (Dillon) take over or derail this thread. :twocents:

I have no dog in the fight other than feeling for the loved ones of both missing boys.

I don't feel they are linked specifically, but I think it opens a new avenue of discussion. I have to admit when I read about predators targeting teens playing COD, I was floored. I realize it is common but it really hit home for me and the fact my 12 year old plays COD and has Xbox live. I made him read the article posted about these predators.

Until we know what happened to Dylan and/or LE gives us something else to go on, I think it would be irresponsible to discount any plausible theory. MOO

 

[JustJeannie]

RSBM

I would imagine LE did a VERY thorough search of MR's house. I believe they were there most of the day. MR very well could have moved things around after the search when things were probably in disarray. When these type of searches are performed, is it the habit of LE to put things back?

I would certainly hope they did. By that time they had ruled out his being a runaway, so I would think looking closely for any sign of foul play, no matter how small, would be SOP. I can't imagine them not moving the furniture, rugs, etc. to make sure no stains or other signs of a crime weren't being hidden by them.

 

[ColdHands]

The idea of Internet luring is another example of abduction by someone the parents do not know. My issue with abduction from outside the house has been the lack of contact with anyone Monday morning, the backpack and the fishing pole. If you can put someone in the house though, I think those go away. And so if Dylan let an Internet predator into the house, IMO it is possible the person took away his phone and tried to stage a runaway scenario by taking some things when they left.

My issue with this is how would someone have found Dylan or known he would be home? I would love to see ALL of Dylan's texting history, phone-iPod-pc-console, to see what information he was sharing.

 

[NC Analyzer]

The idea of Internet luring is another example of abduction by someone the parents do not know. My issue with abduction from outside the house has been the lack of contact with anyone Monday morning, the backpack and the fishing pole. If you can put someone in the house though, I think those go away. And so if Dylan let an Internet predator into the house, IMO it is possible the person took away his phone and tried to stage a runaway scenario by taking some things when they left.

My issue with this is how would someone have found Dylan or known he would be home? I would love to see ALL of Dylan's texting history, phone-iPod-pc-console, to see what information he was sharing.

For a perp to "lure" Dylan via internet communication, there would be a record. LE would know if this occurred and the investigation would have progressed in an entirely different direction than it has. SOP

:moo: