CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

[The Cheese]

But Ryan was coming to his grandmas in Bayfield for Dylan to be dropped off there.

Aren't we talking about Sunday night? At 8:01pm Ryan was still not at his gma's per texts. He was still in Pagosa Springs. I think Mark would have had to drop him off there.

 

[KateNY]

All right link peeps...who can find the one that talks about LE not knowing about this search group coming

Do I remember that right?


I cannot &^!*%* find a link'

 

[otto]

He is the one who claims he didn't like telling Dylan no.

So was Dylan a bit spoiled, or was Dylan dealing with a controlling, manipulative, nasty father?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I do not. MR has said nothing negative during this whole ordeal in reference to his x wife. They have been divorced since either 2006 or 2008 not sure, but it has been a while. And until August last year they also lived in the area. I don't know if you have watched the interviews by ER and MR. I think you would find those interesting. jmo

He said nothing negative?? He said a lot of disturbing things. What was the point in bringing up her job being a secret?

 

[sarx]

Thanks so much Sarx. Another question. If a cadaver dog alerts on an area, or two dogs alert on an area, why would their handlers ignore those alerts??? Is it common for a dog to alert when there is no reason to??? Thanks in advance again.

Hmmm, are we talking something specific here? I can think of a few random reasons why you would ignore those alerts (working in an area where you already know there had been HR, not exactly common, but it does happen once and again) but generally speaking, why would you take one let alone two into an area and then ignore what they are telling you?

If it's common for your dog to false alert (alert when there is nothing there), then you probably should retire your dog, lol. Doesn't make for a very useful search dog if ya know what I mean!

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

If it takes 45 minutes to travel from Vallecito to Bayfield, which is about 15 miles, then how could it take 30 minutes to travel 18 miles from Durango to Bayfield?

I'm guessing city roads versus windy country roads?

 

[katydid23]

Ryan was in Pagosa Springs that night. Not Bayfield. I just checked google maps and Pagosa is much further than Bayfield, so longer detour.

But Ryan was LEAVING Pagosa and going to his grandmas in Bayfield. He texted that very thing to Ryan.

 

[The Cheese]

k-9 to search "indefinitely"

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/local/central/nm-k-9-group-begins-search-for-teen

Thanks! Reporter says in video that Mark reached out to them. Interesting.

 

[katydid23]

so was dylan a bit spoiled, or was dylan dealing with a controlling, manipulative, nasty father?

bbm
bingo.

 

[Kamille]

They watched a movie when they got home.

I don't agree with letting a 13 year old call the shots when it comes to visiting friends late in the evening. His dad decided that it was best for this child to eat, pick up some groceries for the next couple of days (a considerate act to let Dylan pick what he wanted to have in the fridge), go home, spend a bit of time with his dad and have a good night sleep. That makes perfect sense.

Not to a 13yr old maybe. Which might start an altercation.



MOO

 

[sarx]

All right link peeps...who can find the one that talks about LE not knowing about this search group coming

Do I remember that right?


I cannot &^!*%* find a link'

Yes, I would be very interested in this link.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I told my 17 year old on Saturday night that 10 PM was too late for him to go out and get together with friends. He believed me.

We discuss a lot here about what everyone else's kids/grandkids do. But this is about Dylan. His life. His habits. His parents. I cannot emphasize enough why that is one of the most important things to be considered....the people involved in the situation. What is reasonable, customary, usual for THEM. Not what everyone else does or does not do.

 

[katydid23]

Aren't we talking about Sunday night? At 8:01pm Ryan was still not at his gma's per texts. He was still in Pagosa Springs. I think Mark would have had to drop him off there.

But he told Dylan he was coming. So D could have been dropped off at the grandmothers at anytime.

 

[MrsPC]

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link for KateNY and Sarx

 

[Seajay]

So, is the dad viewed as having done something wrong because he did not let his 13 year old child call the shots that evening?

This is what I don't understand. I use to tell my kids no all the time about things they wanted to do, and for different reasons. It didn't make me a monster or angry or hateful or mean. It made me a parent, who for whatever reason there was at the time, would tell my kids no to something.

One thing that got my kids an automatic no was coming to me with wanting to do something without knowing before hand the "what, where, why, how, who, when" questions answered. I was not going to play games with them all day about their plans. If they couldn't tell me "I want to go the xxxx mall with Gina at 3:30 pm, Gina's mother is taking us, can you pick us up, I'm going to need $50 because I need to get a blouse for school and we'll be back about 6:00 pm", they didn't go.

Another automatic no was having one of their friends ask for them. Another automatic no was to ask me if they could do something in front of their friends.

It was parenting. Just because parents are divorced doesn't mean the inmates run the asylum when the kids visit and got to call the shots. What parent would do that???

 

[findDylan]

Hmmm, are we talking something specific here? I can think of a few random reasons why you would ignore those alerts (working in an area where you already know there had been HR, not exactly common, but it does happen once and again) but generally speaking, why would you take one let alone two into an area and then ignore what they are telling you?

If it's common for your dog to false alert (alert when there is nothing there), then you probably should retire your dog, lol. Doesn't make for a very useful search dog if ya know what I mean!

2 different dogs and 2 different handlers (correct word?) had hits on the lake by the dam. Divers went down but couldn't be down for very long. I think they were out for 2 days (but don't quote me on that). They couldn't find anything. JMO

 

[katydid23]

13 year olds can be dead to the world when they're over tired.

Well, then why would he be up and raring to hitchhike an hour later?

If he was overtired, wouldnt he wait in the warm cabin, eat more cereal, watch cartoons and text his friends. It would be very soon that his ride would appear.

 

[SCHMAE]

What if MR never said it's too late? Did he say that in any interview ? I do not recall for sure but I don't think he did . Maybe DR was really wiped out from his trip and fudged the truth to his friends and just said MR said it's too late. My child uses ME for cop outs all the time to not hear the friend say " oh come on, we gotta do this or that''. Sometimes they just want a touch of down time and to hit the sack, get a fresh start in the morning. Could that be ?

Yes I get that the phone stopped at 9:37 and that he didnt' use it in the morning and all of the other tidbits that exist. But I'm just wondering what if DR himself just didn't want to go to that friends' house quite yet. Food for thought.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Whitney Heichel was found when Jonathan Holt, the man who killed her, told LE where to find her.

Oh yeah... That is right...

but IIRC... LE let volunteers continue their search... While they were going their own route... With less fan fare?

I thought there was a division of searching... Ultimately so LE could continue with their OWN search without having volunteers be the one to find poor Whitney... And so that there would be less "interference"...?

:dunno:


Or maybe I just dreamt it all? :countsheep:

 

[jjenny]

What if MR never said it's too late? Did he say that in any interview ? I do not recall for sure but I don't think he did . Maybe DR was really wiped out from his trip and fudged the truth to his friends and just said MR said it's too late. My child uses ME for cop outs all the time to not hear the friend say " oh come on, we gotta do this or that''. Sometimes they just want a touch of down time and to hit the sack, get a fresh start in the morning. Could that be ?

Yes I get that the phone stopped at 9:37 and that he didnt' use it in the morning and all of the other tidbits that exist. But I'm just wondering what if DR himself just didn't want to go to that friends' house quite yet. Food for thought.

No, MR said it was too late.