CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #37

[otto]

A three hour flight? How can that be? I can fly from Dallas to Florida in 2 hours !

Maybe I made a mistake in checking flight times ... let me see ... it looks like it's a 3 hour flight when I check flight websites.

Can someone double check for me?

 

[Lordeebee]

I agree. I think that the context of the mention of the r/t ticket led to the assumption that this time the ticket was not r/t. However, to the best of my knowledge that was not explicit.

eta: sorry - that was supposed to be a reply to Ranch.

CR said that MR purchased a one-way ticket, and he and his mother would be driving to pick up Dylan at the end of his visit. This was not in MSM

 

[Deleted member 39678]

CR said that MR purchased a one-way ticket, and he and his mother would be driving to pick up Dylan at the end of his visit. This was not in MSM

So it's a rumor. Thanks, I was getting a feeling that was the case.

 

[otto]

Then how do you explain MR claiming he monitors what Dylan does and where he is at? But he shows home after his errands, Dylan is not there, Dylan did not answer text messages all morning. What does MR do? Takes a nap, or so he says.

I think there's a difference between monitoring a 2 year old and monitoring a 13 year old. If a 13 year has the habit of going to visit a nearby friend or walking along the river, as dad said, then for him to be gone for a couple of hours isn't a big concern. Furthermore, it sounds like both parents gave Dylan a lot of freedom. Dad became concerned at 2:30 and immediately started searching for Dylan ... even driving to Bayfield and knowing where to find Ryan in order to ask about Dylan.

 

[jjenny]

I think there's a difference between monitoring a 2 year old and monitoring a 13 year old. If a 13 year has the habit of going to visit a nearby friend or walking along the river, as dad said, then for him to be gone for a couple of hours isn't a big concern. Furthermore, it sounds like both parents gave Dylan a lot of freedom. Dad became concerned at 2:30 and immediately started searching for Dylan ... even driving to Bayfield and knowing where to find Ryan in order to ask about Dylan.

Following that logic, why did he become concerned at 2:30? You seem to be claiming the parents let Dylan run wild. 2:30 is still middle of the day.

 

[otto]

A Parent would be involved in the early stages of Searching for their missing child. There's been more active involvement from strangers, than Dylan's Father has provided !!

I understand that he was the first person involved in a search. He immediately checked with friends of Dylan by driving all over the place ... around the area where he lived and all the way to Bayfield. Once he realized that no one had heard from Dylan, he put the disappearance in the hands of professionals. What more should he have done?

 

[otto]

It would seem that Dylan's backpack would be located even though he wasn't, Whatever fate happened to Dylan, all his belongings he had has also disappeared.

I have to keep going back to the previous night and the cell phone losing communications with the tower, and never communicating again. If it wasn't for the cell phone Sunday night, Then so many Theories would be Plausible !!

There were a number of hitch hiking abductions in Australia a couple of decades ago and the backpacks were kept by the abductor.

 

[jjenny]

I understand that he was the first person involved in a search. He immediately checked with friends of Dylan by driving all over the place ... around the area where he lived and all the way to Bayfield. Once he realized that no one had heard from Dylan, he put the disappearance in the hands of professionals. What more should he have done?

And by immediately you of course mean after a nap?

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

So it's a rumor. Thanks, I was getting a feeling that was the case.

In the uncut interview with channel 9, at the end, MR says that last time Dylan visited they bought a round trip ticket.

It is not rumor, because that was MSM. However, it does leave room for interpretation. I took it to mean that on the Thanksgiving trip. They did not buy DR a round trip ticket.

Uncut: Mark Redwine talks about son's dissapearance - YouTube (6:59)

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

So it's a rumor. Thanks, I was getting a feeling that was the case.

In the uncut interview with channel 9, at the end, MR says that last time Dylan visited they bought a round trip ticket.

It is not rumor, because that was MSM. However, it does leave room for interpretation. I took it to mean that on the Thanksgiving trip, they did not buy DR a round trip ticket.

Uncut: Mark Redwine talks about son's disappearance - YouTube (6:59)

 

[otto]

It is frustrating! MR has never accepted responsiblity for anything, other than what went right. It's always someone elses fault. I just can't explain the pain that we are going through which is NOTHING that Elaine is going through Dylan is the victim here and it p******* me off to no end that MR is being made the victim. He decided not to talk, he decided not to speak with ER and somehow, someway, it's her fault. We lived it, so being blamed for his actions / inactions is not new to either of us.

I am inclined to view the family of victims of crime as victims ... so both parents and extended family would be victims related to Dylan's disappearance.

Apart from an acrimonious divorce and all the bad behavior that comes with it, what would lead you to think that dad is a murderer?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

In the uncut interview with channel 9, at the end, MR says that last time Dylan visited they bought a round trip ticket.

It is not rumor, because that was MSM. However, it does leave room for interpretation. I took it to mean that on the Thanksgiving trip. They did not buy DR a round trip ticket.

Uncut: Mark Redwine talks about son's dissapearance - YouTube (6:59)

I don't see how saying you bought a round trip ticket in the past means that your saying you bought a one way ticket on the next trip. Sorry, but if the one way ticket information is to be considered a fact, it needs to be linked up. Until then it's a rumor.

 

[SCHMAE]

Maybe I made a mistake in checking flight times ... let me see ... it looks like it's a 3 hour flight when I check flight websites.

Can someone double check for me?

Well I do see where you got that time and it's including a layover of 1 hr 40 minutes. So plus boarding and departing 2 full times, the actual flight if it were non stop I would think is much less than one hour. But you are in essence right, he spent at least 3 or more hours ' travelling' . So stupid a flight that close has to fly to ' wherever ' and stop on the way !

I cannot even believe how stupid it is to fly that route and have a layover at LAX or DFW ...... I hate flying

 

[asyousay]

Otto - I highly doubt that Dylan left home at 8am when Mark did not leave till 7.30am and Dylan was tired . There would of been no point in Dylan sleeping in for another 10/15 mins and then rushing around getting ready .

:cow:

 

[otto]

So why wouldn't he sleep in, watch cartoons, eat cereal, and wait an hour or two for his ride?

He had an appointment at 6:30 AM and he slept in. His dad spent an hour trying to get him up and he probably thought that he could keep sleeping and his dad would wait ... but that didn't happen because his dad had an appointment. When his dad left, he probably snapped out of it, realized that he was late, grabbed a bowl of cereal and his backpack and headed to the highway to hitch a ride.

 

[Eileen730]

Thank you. I'm starting to get a picture of a very independent 13 year old with parents that were not all that concerned about him - parents that trusted him to make good decisions. That is, they normally trusted that all was well, so if he did not come home at night and did not phone to update them on his plans, no one was concerned.

That fits well with dad not being concerned when he came home from errands and Dylan wasn't home. That also fits well with Dylan taking things into his own hands when he wanted to visit at friend at maybe 8 AM.

I dont see that at all!
MY son did exactly the same thing as Dylan.
He has a group of friends they hang out on saturday they make the rounds from house to house either on Bike or a parent, they usually end up spending the night at one of those houses. My son would call me when they LANDED
and let me know that the parents agreed, if it was my house the kids let their moms know and NO they do not text to say goodnight to mommy! As long as you know where they are and the parents they are with they are fine these kids dont have cars.



ALL JMO

 

[Eileen730]

He had an appointment at 6:30 AM and he slept in. His dad spent an hour trying to get him up and he probably thought that he could keep sleeping and his dad would wait ... but that didn't happen because his dad had an appointment. When his dad left, he probably snapped out of it, realized that he was late, grabbed a bowl of cereal and his backpack and headed to the highway to hitch a ride.

That child made plans to meet his friend at 6 30 That is one FACT we DO know!
Everything else is what DAD said.

After reading Dylans text messages sent to R he was DESPERATE to get there!

All JMO

 

[otto]

Following that logic, why did he become concerned at 2:30? You seem to be claiming the parents let Dylan run wild. 2:30 is still middle of the day.

Per dad's interview, he assumed that Dylan was visiting a friend nearby. When he woke up at 2:30 and Dylan still wasn't home, he became concerned. I'm not claiming that Dylan's parents let him run wild, I'm looking at what we know.

His mother said that he visited friends and sometimes didn't touch base until the next morning. His father said that he had a history of hitch hiking (that he was unaware of until the disappearance). That sounds like an independent child whose parents trusted him to make good decisions.

It's not uncommon for a couple of hours to pass between the last time a teenage child was seen and a missing person's report. In this case, dad assumed that Dylan was nearby and it wouldn't have crossed his mind that Dylan had hitch hiked. 2-3 hours passed and then the alarms went off in his head.

 

[Eileen730]

I am inclined to view the family of victims of crime as victims ... so both parents and extended family would be victims related to Dylan's disappearance.

Apart from an acrimonious divorce and all the bad behavior that comes with it, what would lead you to think that dad is a murderer?

If everyone was considered victims NO peprs would get caught.

 

[ShyViolet]

Maybe I made a mistake in checking flight times ... let me see ... it looks like it's a 3 hour flight when I check flight websites.

Can someone double check for me?

A three hour flight? How can that be? I can fly from Dallas to Florida in 2 hours !

It looks like there are no direct flights between Colorado Springs and Durango, so the layover is what could make the trip 3 hours.

That confused me, though, because MR admitted (in both video interviews) there was disagreement between he and ER, because MR's goal was to get Dylan on a direct flight. I don't know why a person would argue with someone over something that person has no control over. I suppose ME felt ER should take two plus hours out of her day to drive Dylan to Denver, which would have made the flight one hour as well as saved MR around 100 bucks. moo