CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #38

[Seajay]

What is SM??? I've been seeing that term and I'm not sure in what text it's being used. TIA.

 

[KateNY]

I'm still stuck on the family friend. I wish I could come up with a theory that fit better so I could actually discuss it a bit more. Oh well, such is life. MOO

<modsnip>

I believe that if/when the truth is known, the "suspicious coincidences" will all disappear and it will all make perfect sense. MOO

BBM

or make jaws drop

:waitasec:

 

[deoneta]

What is SM??? I've been seeing that term and I'm not sure in what text it's being used. TIA.

Social media. I was about to ask a couple of days back when it finally popped into my head.

 

[Seajay]

Social media. I was about to ask a couple of days back when it finally popped into my head.

I use the thanks button and half the time it doesn't register, even when I refresh several times. I tried to thank you for answering my question. It makes sense. I just couldn't for the life of me figure it out.

 

[deoneta]

I use the thanks button and half the time it doesn't register, even when I refresh several times. I tried to thank you for answering my question. It makes sense. I just couldn't for the life of me figure it out.

YW I'd been reading it for weeks stubbornly trying to figure out what the heck it stood for. I knew in the context people were talking about facebook or so it seemed. I was just about to break down and ask when I happen to hear "social media" on TV, and I said Ohhhhhh. But then I read on forums for about five years before I found out what ITA meant

 

[ColdHands]

I feel that the most likely way an abduction could have happened from the home would be one where he was lured by someone. Mainly because all of his things are gone, and there was no signs of struggle, no muss ,no noise.

If he were taken from home, I lean towards a creepy neighbor, a family 'friend', a co-worker of MR, or like the father of one of D's friends ---someone known to him, that could lure him to voluntarily get in the vehicle. JMO

I agree. I think that lured into a vehicle by some one he sort of knew is my most likely theory.

 

[Ten-96]

I realize I'm late to the table with this opinion about footprints, but wanted to mention that in New England in November the ground is frozen and feet do not generally imprint on frozen surfaces unless the surfaces are snow-covered. I have spent only one winter in Colorado but was horrified to learn that winter comes earlier there. Anyway, no footprints does not surprise me.

 

[SuperMom1995]

No the murders were about 10 months apart.

If they were separate crimes committed at different times double jeopardy would not apply to that...it had to be some other reason.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

I still can't figure out why he agreed to do it unless it was to shut them all up, but then he should have realized that wasn't going to happened based on everything else he's done that they wanted him to do didn't shut them up. IMO, JMO

I thought MR has a lawyer and if he does I can't for the life of me understand why he didn't tell MR not to do the show.

 

[song22]

I know that I am projecting here. Since I was married for more than 20 years to a man who was emotionally abusive and always, always just on the edge of physical abuse. He was charismatic, only a few could see through the facade. Even my own sister thought I was exaggerating when I told her I was afraid he would snap someday. He could never harm a soul in her eyes. I walked on eggshells during the marriage and tiptoed out of it. Somewhat proud of myself to make it out alive. Two months later, he had broken my 12 year old's collarbone. No one was there to stand between them. There was an underlying rage that he had no self control over. Who knows if he could have stopped himself. Thankfully, my older son was there. His second wife did not tiptoe. When she filed for divorce, he broke her house up. She locked herself in a room, she must have been terrified. Who knows what would have happened , if the police hadn't come sirens blaring. I believe ER and I believe AZGRANDMA when they say MR could be capable of harming DR. That does not prove he did. But I believe them that it is possible. I also believe it is important to listen to them, and take the possibility into account.

Thank you so much for sharing this. My heart goes out to you and understand the trauma you have experienced. My dad was like this, abusive and manipulative, and very charming and he could easily go on Dr. Phil or make any kind of public case in his defense, because he didn't really feel remorse for his behavior. Many, many people could see through his "charm" but he didn't care. He believed 100% in himself. He was a narcissist and always conceived of himself as the victim. He talked exactly like MR, saying sentimental things about his kids, while at the same time disparaging them. I think many of us have had experience with someone like this, and we are sensitive to those narcissistic cues. I know women can be abusive, too. You can usually spot a borderline woman pretty quick as well. But I'm not picking up on that with ER. So many people are picking up on MR's cues without knowing anything about the case. This doesn't mean he did it. He could just be a messed up guy, and that's all, but it's certainly reasonable to consider.

 

[*Lash*]

Interesting aside...people love to "inject" themselves into LE investigation's every day. They sometimes want their 15 minutes of fame, some of them have mental issues, some people do it to profit from the victim family members, some people even confess to crimes they didn't commit...on and on. Sometimes "tips" are called in by unscrupulous people for various nefarious reasons. LE is aware of this.

Absolutely! LE is very aware of these type of people and scams. Which is why I tend to believe LE would vet the credibility of a tipster before releasing details and asking the public for help.

 

[Ronald99]

YW I'd been reading it for weeks stubbornly trying to figure out what the heck it stood for. I knew in the context people were talking about facebook or so it seemed. I was just about to break down and ask when I happen to hear "social media" on TV, and I said Ohhhhhh. But then I read on forums for about five years before I found out what ITA meant

http://www.internetslang.com/

The above has educated me !!

 

[Salem]

Women can definitely be verbally and physically abusive. I'm watching it now with my own eyes with a family member. The husband is well educated, good looking, soft spoken, despises violence of any type, is an excellent father. Has never lost his temper or being a physical altercation with another peer.

His wife put him down, controlled him, made all the decisions in the family, ignored his family, and they did everything with her family. She lied to him about paying the bills, spending money, all sorts of things. He did all the yard work, most of the house work, took care of all the kids, even while she was around. She'd play on the computer and bark orders at him to do things with and for the kids.

He finally had enough and filed for divorce. Twice now she has gone to where he was staying and started pushing him and slapping him and hitting on him. He won't lay a hand on her. She's picked up knives and thrown them close to him. Then she picks up a knife and puts it in her pocket and declares she's going to leave and go kill herself. This guy hates confrontation, but that's all it's been with her.

Some women are nags, act superior to their husbands, talk garbage about them all the time, lie, complain, and treat their men like one of their children. They never shut up. IMO, JMO, MOO

OT - but Dr. Phil did a show on this a year or so ago. Some woman that beat her husband up pretty regularly and then didn't understand why he didn't want to come home and wanted a divorce. It was sad, distrubing and out of control.

Salem

 

[*Lash*]

I don't believe Dr. Phil shows are posted anywhere on line (it's a no-no on youtube). I believe you can buy a dvd from his website.

You can also purchase a transcript of the show.

 

[mck16]

No, it does not work that way. They make the guests sign RELEASE Forms before they tape the show. And even if it is a 2 day show, it was all taped in one day.

So there is no way for anyone to 'refuse' to do the show, because it is already done, way before it airs. It's a done deal, and none of them know what the editing will look like until it airs. That makes a huge difference. The producers can make any of them look guilty or innocent or clueless or whatever they want.

I guess primarily what I was thinking of is an LD test or comments directed toward MR that weren't too kind. He would know the questions and could if he wanted walk off the show or cause a ruckus and stop the taping of his part of the show. I am thinking since we have not seen any evidense of this that maybe everything went well. At least I am hoping so.

 

[*Lash*]

Unless LE receives a viable lead in Dylan's case and shares that lead with the public, I cannot move away from the last person to see Dylan. And, yes, that person is Mark. The man that only saw his child very little in the 3 or so previous years; the man that was he?? bent on making his ex-wives and children's lifes miserable.

LE has got to give me some other evidence pointing away from Mark. Until then, I have my eyes on Mark.

I don't quite agree with ER being made to pay child support to MR. Ridiculous. IIRC Mark said he was saving money for Dylan's college. Some people have implied this is a lie. This is something I would like to see proven. Maybe MR was saving the child support as Dylan's college fund? I think it is important to prove Mark is lying. It is easy to call someone a liar but people are more likely to believe what is being said when provided proof.

Have we heard from Mark regarding why he didn't see Dylan much? In my opinion, it is possible MR's type of employment interfered with his relationship with Dylan. Especially if MR worked out of state and was gone for long periods at a time. Maybe time w/Dylan was only feasible during vacation time. This would have been a good question for the DP show.

In my opinion, supplying proof to some of the hearsay about MR would help put a lot of questions about Mark to rest.

ETA - I feel the need to explain further. My post was not directed towards anyone. I was simply trying to say we need more hard facts.

 

[mck16]

I don't quite agree with ER being made to pay child support to MR. Ridiculous. IIRC Mark said he was saving money for Dylan's college. Some people have implied this is a lie. This is something I would like to see proven. Maybe MR was saving the child support as Dylan's college fund? I think it is important to prove Mark is lying. It is easy to call someone a liar but people are more likely to believe what is being said when provided proof.

Have we heard from Mark regarding why he didn't see Dylan much? In my opinion, it is possible MR's type of employment interfered with his relationship with Dylan. Especially if MR worked out of state and was gone for long periods at a time. Maybe time w/Dylan was only feasible during vacation time. This would have been a good question for the DP show.

In my opinion, supplying proof to some of the hearsay about MR would help put a lot of questions about Mark to rest.

I totally agree with this statement. Most of what has been posted over and over is someone else's opinion and not backed by facts. But, it keeps being repeated as if it is fact. jmo

 

[TxLady2]

How would one come to the conclusion that a man is capable of murdering his own child unless he has already done something to hurt one of them badly in the past? Has he ever killed anyone before or even threatened to kill one of his children? Has he beat and/or tortured one of them seriously enough to need medical attention?

It would be interesting to know how any one could believe that without something to back it up.

 

[Flutterflies]

I thought MR has a lawyer and if he does I can't for the life of me understand why he didn't tell MR not to do the show.

**UPI misquoted Denver Post thereby instigating the "hired" a lawyer rumor.** :banghead:



"Mark Redwine told The Denver Post he hired a criminal lawyer to watch his back while he presses the search for his 13-year-old son, Dylan Redwine, who disappeared from the Pine River Valley two weeks ago."

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012...g-two-weeks/UPI-85631354470782/#ixzz2LdzISPXX






He has contacted a criminal-defense attorney to help him with that. And he said he is helping in the search in any way he can.


Read more: With Dylan Redwine missing for almost two weeks, dad clings to hope - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage/ci_22108222?source=rss#ixzz2Le0ChQtD
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UPI article says "hired" but they quote Denver Post who says "contacted"



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Denver Post says "contacted"

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

How would one come to the conclusion that a man is capable of murdering his own child unless he has already done something to hurt one of them badly in the past? Has he ever killed anyone before or even threatened to kill one of his children? Has he beat and/or tortured one of them seriously enough to need medical attention?

It would be interesting to know how any one could believe that without something to back it up.

Did Josh Powell do this? Who did he kill prior to his wife and kids?