CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #38

[scorekeeper]

I wonder how the search is going with the dogs. It's always on my mind that there is a search going on.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/K-9-Forensics/249798878409404?filter=2

They were still searching yesterday

 

[Ronald99]

The Dr Phil show is showing cllips with the Mother and Father, it's going to be shown Tuesday.

It's shows Elaine and Mark on stage looking at each other,

The Father says, I have a lot of suspiciouns that Elaine could be involved in this.

Elaine says, You had him, Where is he.

That's the preview for Tuesdays show.

 

[Seajay]

I would just like to add to this if I may.

Women can and are abusive, whether that is physically, mentally, and/or emotionally. The children a pawn in the chess game.

This was my mother to a capitol T. Since my father travelled a lot for his job, this made it easy for her to surround herself with individuals that sympathized with her, and some I will go so far and call them enablers. My mother filled my head with her version as she had primary custody.. I had no one or place to turn to. The school completely dismissed it. Friends and family as well dismissed it.

CPS did not recognize it, and their reports submitted to the Courts consisted of flat out lies. Even when I told CPS workers that the sequence of events were false, I was labeled as rebellious. The only recourse my father had was through the Courts. She purposely moved a distance away to limit time I would spend with my father, then went out of her way to sabotage those visits, either by making me feel guilty for going on them or through the use of "family events".

Even if she agreed to an extended visit, she would file a police report. LE is required to file a report thus there were alot of reports, and lots of documentation of what my mother said.

The LE reports don't always tell the true story.

Sorry you had to go through all that. It's a shame that parents put their children through this kind of pain. It's so selfish and non-productive. I know some children are so intimidated by that controlling parent, that when in judges chambers, they won't tell the judge what they really want to. They are afraid of the reprecussions. I admire your strength in at least telling the judge how you felt and what was really going on.

It's a shame when people hate their ex more than they love their child and the child becomes a tool to get even with their ex. The child is collateral damage.

 

[nikb]

I wonder if Dr. Phil spoke with LE concerning Dylan's disappearance? I hope so.

I wonder if LE would be allowed to speak with him? I agree with you I'd love to hear whatever they might have to say, just wonder if they'd be allowed to say much. It seems like mostly all they'd be able to say is "no comment" or some variation such as "this is an ongoing investigation and I can't answer that question." IMO

ETA: I just realized you might've meant spoke with them off-air, i.e. to confirm facts. My guess would be he did.

 

[asyousay]

From Dr. Phil's show today....all new Tuesday...

Mark is all cleaned up (I hardly recognized him)....says, "I have a lot of suspicion that Elaine could be involved in this"

Elaine "You had him, where is he?"

oh, my........

So thats his game plan , to blame somebody that was 100's of miles away. That makes so much sense .. :banghead:

 

[Chili Fries]

The Dr Phil show is showing cllips with the Mother and Father, it's going to be shown Tuesday.

It's shows Elaine and Mark on stage looking at each other,

The Father says, I have a lot of suspiciouns that Elaine could be involved in this.

Elaine says, You had him, Where is he.

That's the preview for Tuesdays show.

I just saw it too, and honestly I thought Mark was alluding to Elaine being behind Dylan's disappearance when he said this to Melissa Blausius (bolded by me):

But, the fact that he didn’t leave anything behind is a question that’s been raised by more than one person, and it makes you wonder that when Dylan left, was he taking everything that he had because he knew where he was going and who he was with or did he take his things because he was going to spend time with his friends and he wanted a change of clothes. I have a hard time believing that he was thinking that, because Dylan is not the kind of kid worried about wearing clothes more than a day

And also when he said Dylan could be seeing what is going on "between his mom and I" and that Dylan could be "torn between his two parents".

It doesn't suprise me that Mark would explicitly blame Elaine because it seems to me that he's implied before that Elaine has Dylan stashed somewhere.

 

[NC Analyzer]

So thats his game plan , to blame somebody that was 100's of miles away. That makes so much sense .. :banghead:

IMO, that was the game plan for the DP show. His game plan changes with every interview. The man has no credibility. :banghead:

 

[scorekeeper]

So thats his game plan , to blame somebody that was 100's of miles away. That makes so much sense .. :banghead:

I wouldn't expect anything else from him......deflect, deflect....remember his problem is with "his ex-wife"....

 

[Ronald99]

From Dr. Phil's show today....all new Tuesday...

Mark is all cleaned up (I hardly recognized him)....says, "I have a lot of suspicion that Elaine could be involved in this"

Elaine "You had him, where is he?"

oh, my........

Sorry, i didn't notice you had already posted this while i was watching the Dr Phil show, and i also posted the preview !!

 

[mmmagique]

I wouldn't expect anything else from him......deflect, deflect....remember his problem is with "his ex-wife"....

Yeah, today he'd probably say his problem is with his "ex-wives". *lol*

 

[SuperMom1995]

I just saw it too, and honestly I thought Mark was alluding to Elaine being behind Dylan's disappearance when he said this to Melissa Blausius (bolded by me):

But, the fact that he didn’t leave anything behind is a question that’s been raised by more than one person, and it makes you wonder that when Dylan left, was he taking everything that he had because he knew where he was going and who he was with or did he take his things because he was going to spend time with his friends and he wanted a change of clothes. I have a hard time believing that he was thinking that, because Dylan is not the kind of kid worried about wearing clothes more than a day

And also when he said Dylan could be seeing what is going on "between his mom and I" and that Dylan could be "torn between his two parents".

It doesn't suprise me that Mark would explicitly blame Elaine because it seems to me that he's implied before that Elaine has Dylan stashed somewhere.

YEAH but his remarks are very telling and they may just tell on him.:jail:

 

[Ronald99]

I just saw it too, and honestly I thought Mark was alluding to Elaine being behind Dylan's disappearance when he said this to Melissa Blausius (bolded by me):

But, the fact that he didn’t leave anything behind is a question that’s been raised by more than one person, and it makes you wonder that when Dylan left, was he taking everything that he had because he knew where he was going and who he was with or did he take his things because he was going to spend time with his friends and he wanted a change of clothes. I have a hard time believing that he was thinking that, because Dylan is not the kind of kid worried about wearing clothes more than a day

And also when he said Dylan could be seeing what is going on "between his mom and I" and that Dylan could be "torn between his two parents".

It doesn't suprise me that Mark would explicitly blame Elaine because it seems to me that he's implied before that Elaine has Dylan stashed somewhere.

From the start, I've believed the Father was involved in Dylan's disappearance, and after watching the few seconds of preview for next weeks show, I'm fully convinced he's Responsible.

The Mother has Zero Reasons for hiding or harming Dylan, She has nothing to gain making Dylan disappear.

For Mark Redwine to turn this around and Fault her, is telling me he's fully responsible for Dylan's Disappearance.

Just watching that few seconds of preview has caused so much hatred in the way i personally fill about that so called Father and i fully believe he's spiteful and Devious enough to have done the unthinkable to this innocent child.

 

[asyousay]

From the start, I've believed the Father was involved in Dylan's disappearance, and after watching the few seconds of preview for next weeks show, I'm fully convinced he's Responsible.

The Mother has Zero Reasons for hiding or harming Dylan, She has nothing to gain making Dylan disappear.

For Mark Redwine to turn this around and Fault her, is telling me he's fully responsible for Dylan's Disappearance.

Just watching that few seconds of preview has caused so much hatred in the way i personally fill about that so called Father and i fully believe he's spiteful and Devious enough to have done the unthinkable to this innocent child.

100% agree. She had gotten away for Mark and had built a lovely new life with her sons and had won custody and has no reason on earth to make him vanish.

 

[asyousay]

Best form of defense is attack and it seems that will be the way Mark will play this. Logical clearly has no part to play here .... MOO

 

[Seajay]

If I were guilty, the last thing I would do would go on a TV program, period. It's too easy to say something to implicate yourself that LE could use to arrest and prosecute. I dunno, I would not do it. But that's just me. How many of you would go on a show like this if you were indeed guilty of harming and disappearing your child for selfish reasons??? IMO

 

[nikb]

100% agree. She had gotten away for Mark and had built a lovely new life with her sons and had won custody and has no reason on earth to make him vanish.

The ONLY reason I can think of is one I don't even believe myself, but I was challenging myself to think of any reason she might have for him to "disappear." What if she wanted to get Dylan away from MR permanently? That would be a reason to make him "disappear." Again I don't even believe this myself, just the only thing I could think of.

As many have noted, in that type of situation normally the parent would disappear too along with the child. I also just don't see ER doing that, not after working so hard (presumably) to build her new life, get custody changed, etc.

 

[deoneta]

I just saw it too, and honestly I thought Mark was alluding to Elaine being behind Dylan's disappearance when he said this to Melissa Blausius (bolded by me):

But, the fact that he didn’t leave anything behind is a question that’s been raised by more than one person, and it makes you wonder that when Dylan left, was he taking everything that he had because he knew where he was going and who he was with or did he take his things because he was going to spend time with his friends and he wanted a change of clothes. I have a hard time believing that he was thinking that, because Dylan is not the kind of kid worried about wearing clothes more than a day

And also when he said Dylan could be seeing what is going on "between his mom and I" and that Dylan could be "torn between his two parents".

It doesn't suprise me that Mark would explicitly blame Elaine because it seems to me that he's implied before that Elaine has Dylan stashed somewhere.

It kind of goes along with the theme of this statement, IMO:

Mark Redwine:
We were inseparable. I mean… anywhere I was he was right there beside me. You know, He would come to me before he would go to his mom. You know... I think in many ways that was part of the problems that developed in our relationship was because while she was out earning a career, it was
Very difficult for her to Lose sight of the fact that she wasn’t there bonding
With D the way I was and I think that that was a huge problem for her. And I think that that has been a problem for her for a long time now.

All MOO

 

[Chili Fries]

I still think it's a good idea to keep an open mind about the show until we've seen it all - the preview is mere seconds from maybe an hour and 20 minutes worth of video (if that much, Dr Phil has a LOT of commercials).

 

[cluciano63]

So if MR is blaming ER now, is this a new one, to add to the lake, the camp, the kid who talked to strangers, the he could be anywhere kid, etc.?

I know a clip is just a clip, lol, but if they both still really think that, then I wonder if I will soon have to believe them and give up on this case. I really don't have an interest in cases of custodial B.S.

I do not know what to think.

 

[SuperMom1995]

So if MR is blaming ER now, is this a new one, to add to the lake, the camp, the kid who talked to strangers, the he could be anywhere kid, etc.?

I know a clip is just a clip, lol, but if they both still really think that, then I wonder if I will soon have to believe them and give up on this case. I really don't have an interest in cases of custodial B.S.

I do not know what to think.

YEAH, it's called the shotgun approach:moo: